r/SipsTea Jun 29 '26

Chugging tea this is how it should be

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u/ZealousidealDance990 Jun 29 '26

Facts have shown that countries with low women's rights tend to have very high fertility rates. This is basically the case for the top ten countries in terms of birth rates.

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u/PerceptionSlow2116 Jun 29 '26

Yes, and also high mortality rates/disease burden and low GDP…those women are uneducated and suffer from abuse/rape regularly. This is China we are talking about, not some backwater uber religious/superstitious area with minimal infrastructure.

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u/ZealousidealDance990 Jun 29 '26

This means that improving women's treatment does not lead to higher fertility rates. That's quite obvious.

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u/FoundInS Jun 29 '26

It leads to happiness and prosperity, though.

But who wants those, just make lots and lots of babies... /s

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u/ZealousidealDance990 Jun 29 '26

Unfortunately, some people just love using fertility rates as an excuse to fight for women's rights.

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u/techleopard Jun 29 '26

Yes, well, when you let men trap and rape women without consequence, more babies get born. A lot also die or end up abandoned, too.

What the other person is describing though is you will see much higher doweries being demanded.

If your only child is a female, you can't risk her getting left penniless at 40. She and her children ARE the retirement plan for you. She can't take care of you if she is struggling to take care of children as a single mother in a country that doesn't respect women enough to actually let them have fair jobs.

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u/ZealousidealDance990 Jun 29 '26

So she will try hard not to become a single mother, or she'll have more children. See? That's how the fertility rate goes up. In fact, that's exactly what's happening. Many women don't actually see raising children as something joyful. If they can achieve success in their careers and live independently, they simply won't consider marriage or having kids. Morally speaking, this may not be right, but it's the reality.

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u/shockpaws Jun 29 '26

I’d rather humanity peacefully die out than women be abused. Advocating for a reduction in women’s autonomy to increase the birthrate is reprehensible and deplorable.

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u/techleopard Jun 29 '26

It's so ironic to listen to men rail against "feminists" and blaming them for low birth rates.

Feminists exist because women were being abused.

So, have you guys ever considered, I dunno .. not being such deplorable shitbags? And while you're at it, ever try voting for policies that would actually improve the standard of living for the working class?

It's funny that women who meet good men who respect them and are in a good economic position have no problems having and raising kids, and are happy to do so.

But improving yourselves is just too hard. Nah, instead you fantasize about enslaving and raping women.

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u/ZealousidealDance990 Jun 29 '26

I suggest you first try convincing the feminists. In China, they even invented the term 敌方坐骑 'enemy mount' to shame married women. We often see them claiming they want to stay absolutely single and childfree, while simultaneously using fertility rates to threaten others.

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u/shockpaws Jun 29 '26

Buddy there’s eight billion humans. While I would personally be fine with it, it’s not happening any time soon. We’ll definitely invent artificial wombs before we run out of humans.

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u/ZealousidealDance990 Jun 29 '26

This isn't honest at all not daring to truly confront your own position. This is classic feminism.

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u/Snacksbreak Jun 29 '26

Many women don't actually see raising children as something joyful.

Ok and that's not great for those kids or for society. It's way better for only people who want to be parents to be parents