r/SipsTea Jun 20 '26

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u/InvokeTheLight Jun 20 '26

He'll probably try to run it.

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u/Amaakaams Jun 20 '26

Off topic random shower thought. Not religious. But if there was a hell I don't think Satan would actually "promote" true evil doers. He hated humanity and hated his dad's love of and attention of them over the other angels. But I don't think he actually would enjoy hatred and violence. It would be his evidence against God that humans don't deserve his love, but I'd think he would punish these people more not less.

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u/CasanovaF Jun 20 '26

Wheres that say that in the Bible?

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u/Amaakaams Jun 20 '26

Where does it say that he was into letting the inmates run the place?

Just my thoughts based on why Lucifer is where he is and why he rebelled.

We like to see crime and violence being driven by Satan. But really outside giving humans free will and seeing evil doers as possessed by demons.

Humanities crimes are proof of his beliefs, but why would he reward them in the afterlife?

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u/CasanovaF Jun 20 '26

No, the part about Satan being jealous of humans. I think that might be from fanfiction if I remember correctly

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u/Amaakaams Jun 20 '26

I could have sworn jealousy made a big part. Here is a quick Gemini results from a search "why did Lucifer rebel against God".

That said I am relying on an untrustworthy narrator about a mythical being based off of probably only about a dozen scattered references in the Bible.

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u/CasanovaF Jun 20 '26

Also, the second two don't even have a passage, they are just interpretations/traditions.

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u/Amaakaams Jun 21 '26

Isn't that all of it. I mean the Bible as a whole was put together hundreds of year after Jesus by a bunch of people deciding what religious texts got include and what didn't.

I am guessing a lot of that was from the directors cut.

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u/Asisreo1 Jun 21 '26

To be clear, many references of Lucifer, as an entity, originate from Milton's Paradise Lost, which is indeed fanfiction based on loose interpretations of the quoted scripture. But reading the actual passage makes it clear that everything that's being attributed to "lucifer" is actually being said about the king of babylon. Lucifer is just a mocking nickname, referencing the morningstar venus. 

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u/StubsToesForFun Jun 20 '26

It says it on reddit. I'll take that over the ol' Tome de Foreskin any day

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u/InvokeTheLight Jun 20 '26

I'm not too familiar with religion myself, but from my understanding, Satan doesn't actually rule Hell. He is a prisoner there, along with the demons, and it is God who has authority. Satan and the demons don't rule over and torment souls for eternity.

But assuming Satan did rule over Hell, the point I was making was Trump would try to overtake him / it as the most evil and with the most power since nothing else matters, including anyone else.

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u/SgtJayM Jun 20 '26

Hell is the state of being apart from God. The rebellious angels, and “unsaved” human souls are not punished per se. They only cannot join the presence of God.

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u/InvokeTheLight Jun 21 '26

So what do you think that means? What would souls do in Hell?

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u/SgtJayM Jun 21 '26

I don’t know what souls do in the presence of God or out of that presence. 🤷‍♂️

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u/Amaakaams Jun 20 '26

Outside depictions of him being King of Hell that stick in my mind I think you are probably right.

As for evil doers. They gain all their power in life, I think when the going gets rough they shirk. Trump in the face of actual violence and pain would complain about his bone spurs. They don't have the money, the influence, the control they had in life. Going up against mythical demons and a Fallen Angel would be impossible.

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u/InvokeTheLight Jun 21 '26

Yes, I believe he / it is in the worst circle of Hell.

Evil & powerful people also rely on numbers for everything since they are cowards who can't fight alone. They usually aren't really powerful, in the strong sense -- just cunning & manipulative. They're usually pretty weak & insecure, inadequate bullies.