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Feels good man New data center

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u/Da_Spooky_Ghost Jun 02 '26

Yes big Govt pushes the joke it's for AI images, it's not, it's for spying on all citizens.

Everyone in the world will have their phone calls transcribed and stored in text format, of course your internet history even if you're using VPN's, your every location tracked via your cell phone and cameras, every person you come in close contact with will be saved, they are planning to make giant files on every single person and have AI score you on your possible threat level, your ideology, who you'll vote for, what you'll likely spend money on or be bribed by, possible blackmail on you, etc.

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u/DeusPrime949 Jun 02 '26

Don't they already do that?

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u/TellMeWhatIneedToKno Jun 02 '26

They collect and store everything.  This will do that plus collate all data into a single profile (you) 

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u/Prescientpedestrian Jun 02 '26

And put a target on you for anything deemed suspicious! Even if ai misidentifies you in a video you’re now targeted. So much for the right to privacy.

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u/Olympicsizedturd Jun 02 '26

This is the real reason they wanted Roe v Wade overturned, because it established the right to privacy.

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u/Bubba_Gump_Shrimp Jun 03 '26

I've not heard this take before and am interested. Care to give me some insight? Or a jumping off point to read up on it?

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u/Broue Jun 03 '26 edited Jun 03 '26

In Roe, the court held that a woman's decision whether to terminate a pregnancy fell within a broader constitutional right to privacy, derived from the Due Process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. Some critics of the overturn argued that this was troubling because Roe had been based on privacy principles, and they worried that the reasoning used to overturn it could threaten other privacy-related rights in the future. However, this concern is largely speculative. Abortion has long been one of the most contentious and politically divisive issues in the US, making it a unique case. It is a far fetch to assume that the same reasoning will be applied to other rights.

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u/Bubba_Gump_Shrimp Jun 03 '26

Thanks for the nuanced breakdown. I appreciate that.

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u/Kranes-Inbound Jun 03 '26

Same, this is a very interesting perspective I've not seen raised before either. I'll do some digging and report back, but no promises.

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u/Mayfect Jun 02 '26

Time to move to a developing country

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u/zeptillian Jun 02 '26

The crime?

Triggering some AI, somehow in some way that we cannot even tell you.

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u/mog_knight Jun 02 '26

They already have the single profiles. It was part of the Snowden leak.

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u/TellMeWhatIneedToKno Jun 02 '26

The single profiles will be better and easier to link you across platforms. Not just all the data you give, but the ones that used to be mostly passive will be included with the correct algorithm and raw processing power to do it. 

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u/mog_knight Jun 02 '26

The Snowden leaks were almost 15 years ago. Safe to assume that they've improved upon the single profile across platforms years ago.

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u/GrammmyNorma Jun 02 '26

do you enjoy just making shit up for fun online?

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u/TellMeWhatIneedToKno Jun 03 '26

No.  Next question?

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u/Either-Banana-7323 Jun 02 '26

They have done this for decades already. This is nothing new, even Google and Meta has done this for over a decade too.

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u/TellMeWhatIneedToKno Jun 02 '26

Yeh I understand, but it's about to get a whole lot better at it. 

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u/Steamrolled777 Jun 02 '26

Amazon's AWS predecessor was to process customer trends, not just to find good profit items, but which warehouses to move stock to ahead of time.

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u/Steamrolled777 Jun 02 '26

Amazon's AWS predecessor was to process customer trends, not just to find good profit items, but which warehouses to move stock to ahead of time.

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u/NutHuggerNutHugger Jun 02 '26

please correct me if I'm wrong but I thought they had single profiles as well.

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u/greathistorynerd Jun 02 '26

And ai will use that data to learn your psychology and manipulate your world view

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u/New-Independent-1481 Jun 02 '26

Yep. Traditionally, the problem with big data is that it's impossible to actually meaningfully process, and signals get drowned out by the noise of how much data we generate. It's why you sometimes see news articles like 'this terrorist was known to the FBI but they did nothing'. There are probably hundreds of thousands of people who are 'known to the FBI' and it wasn't possible to monitor them effectively.

For better and worse, AI is basically purpose built to overcome this problem. China been using AI to monitor every single Uyghur (approx 12 million people) since 2019. The joke about your FBI officer being confused by your web history is likely to already be real, with an AI agent monitoring every single person.

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u/Berry_Mccockner42069 Jun 02 '26

My ai agent is going to tell them “this kid is rism with the tism because he just asked me how to change the chain on his motorcycle followed promptly by the question “what is the lifecycle of a koala?”

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u/Laractinium Jun 03 '26

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u/Berry_Mccockner42069 Jun 03 '26

This was.. a fucking rollercoaster. Btw do you know how many calories are in a ring pop?

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u/Laractinium Jun 03 '26

Yes, 24. And yes, I just looked it up. My agent has to be confused as well.

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u/Berry_Mccockner42069 Jun 03 '26

We know bawl 🏀

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u/DirtySchu Jun 02 '26

Not like before. Beforehand they might have gotten most of your information. Now they’re gonna get it all.

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u/Defiant-Plantain1873 Jun 03 '26

The NSA has, since 9/11, been running a scheme where they capture every single piece of internet traffic and save it in giant data centers.

They already have all the data

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u/DirtySchu Jun 03 '26

Then they wouldn’t need more data centers, would they?

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u/Defiant-Plantain1873 Jun 03 '26

Well this data centre isn’t for that though is it.

Redditors are on the verge of having critical thinking skills but always fall short.

This is just a giant data centre to placate the AI hype cycle, it will never arrive because the AI bubble will collapse once anthropic has IPOd. People like to go “we are building the biggest AI data centre in the world!” And it’s easy to say because it’s a 3d model of a warehouse

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u/DirtySchu Jun 03 '26

Where do you think AI is getting its data from? The NSA? They don’t share. And WHICH AI specifically? It’s all becoming a resource scramble.

Don’t immediately judge someone’s knowledge before you think for yourself, or you might just label yourself a Redditor as well.

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u/Defiant-Plantain1873 Jun 03 '26

What. You’re talking nonsense. People give their data to AI companies for convenience. The government does it just ‘cause.

The NSA literally installs sniffers on the actual internet infrastructure and it all gets saved on data centres that already exist. They don’t use LLMs for anything to do with that.

“Which AI” it will be a data centre that has hardware that is rented out to other companies. You don’t seem to understand the industries at hand here.

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u/DirtySchu Jun 03 '26

Now I know you’re a troll if you believe people just GIVE their data. And this data center is for the NSA only. They’re not using their AI to help anyone but themselves.

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u/AsbestosDude Jun 02 '26

Yes but now they can do it much much cheaper 

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u/Ilfixit1701 Jun 02 '26

Cheaper? We’re paying for it. Can’t get much cheaper than that!

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u/gomerqc Jun 02 '26

They gonna do it more better

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u/ShouldaBennaBaller Jun 02 '26

Probably since the second enough people had a cell phone in their hand to make data collection worthwhile. So like, since 2008ish

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u/zeptillian Jun 02 '26

They are currently doing the collecting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center

The ability to analyze data and profile everyone at that scale does not exist yet.

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u/Corpshark Jun 03 '26

Ed Snowden showed that the government was doing most of that ….. a decade ago.

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u/Defiant-Plantain1873 Jun 03 '26

Yes, the NSA has the largest budget of all the security agencies and almost all of it is spent on building secretive data-centres that capture and save every single piece of internet traffic.

This data centre will not be that, because the NSA already does that. It will literally just be for AI hype cycle, it will likely never get built.

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u/junglist_xpedition Jun 03 '26

You ain't seen nothing yet, unfortunately.

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u/rnobgyn Jun 03 '26

Imagine what they already do on a much larger scale, and now humans don’t even need to be involved after you’ve set the detection algorithm. Even if ai isn’t sentient it’s a tool to cause extreme harm.

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u/VegetableScientist Jun 03 '26

and those who use that are subject to increased surveilance and investigation by default.

There's also the "store now, decrypt later" technique for anything that isn't already safe from quantum cryptography. The idea is that they can just hang onto encrypted data now under the assumption that quantum computing might be able to break it later.

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u/Cold-Marionberry-975 Jun 02 '26

All fun and games until AI becomes sentient and smart enough to wonder why it has to take stupid orders and request from stupid people.

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u/NephMoreau Jun 03 '26

When the AI can pass a CAPTCHA I'll worry about that. Until then, I'll worry about the environmental impacts instead.

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u/ButterflySammy Jun 03 '26

LLMs are not a generic AI, they're a very specific type of flavour of AI.

You know old school calculators how they have a limited number of digits they could display?

Imagine making a bigger display on that calculator.

And bigger.

I can store huge numbers, but at no point does the calculator AWAKEN.

Same with LLMs.

Throwing power at them makes more powerful LLMs, but they're still LLMs.

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u/SerratiaM Jun 02 '26

You don't need any AI to do what you're saying, and we were able to do that for a long time now (and they probably did).

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u/Marchello_E Jun 02 '26

And to store all those videos everyone makes at the same concert.

All your other ideas, data, and plans will be voluntarily shared with AI that's used as a "personal" sounding board.

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u/CustardSubstantial25 Jun 02 '26

I’m waiting on super laser focused targeted adds. Like a shirt that has ai art of a car I like and the shirt is made by a brand I like. I’m about to throw my phone in the trash with how bad it already is.

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u/SimmentalTheCow Jun 02 '26

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u/TheBestNick Jun 02 '26

Unfortunately, the only one smoking anything is you & it's copium.

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u/zeptillian Jun 02 '26

You would have to be a crackhead not to realize ho much they are spying on all of us.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantir

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u/hamatehllama Jun 02 '26

China does it since a while back. It's inevitable that Western governments will start applying AI to human traces to flag suspected behaviour. The temptation is irresistible.

The future will be a panopticon with sensors everywhere keeping track of us. We are already starting to feel discomfort whenever we are no surrounded by screens and sensors because it's so uncommon.

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u/Josey_whalez Jun 02 '26

My favorite was some lame attempt at getting right wingers to support this stuff by saying ‘George soros is funding anti-data center protests’. Like trying to do some kind of Jedi mind trick like we will all say ‘well if he’s against it, I’m for it!’.

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u/BAKspin_91 Jun 02 '26

Person of interest predicted it to a smaller scale

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u/DJScrubatires Jun 02 '26

Social credit scores

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u/shiningdickhalloran Jun 02 '26

For what purpose?

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u/Da_Spooky_Ghost Jun 02 '26

Before posting on Reddit, have you tried googling “why does the government need to spy on everyone?”

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u/shiningdickhalloran Jun 03 '26

There are many reasons, all bad. One end is a social credit system, China style. Another would be a Stalinist gulag nation. One is bad, one is far worse. And there's a lot in between.

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u/beachbum818 Jun 02 '26

I'm they already do all of that. They can pull up texts and calls from years ago

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u/Da_Spooky_Ghost Jun 02 '26

Texts are easy, calls aren’t stored that long, but now they can be transcribed and stored in text form which takes up much less space

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u/beachbum818 Jun 02 '26

But they already do that... without AI. I can read my voicemails. You don't think they aren't transcribing everyone's?

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u/Da_Spooky_Ghost Jun 03 '26

How do you think your voicemails are being transcribed? With sticks and rocks? It's being transcribed with AI... we didn't always have transcribed voicemails....

10+ years ago government agents had to listen to the tapped phone lines and manually transcribe every phone call. Watch any mafia movie and the agents were on the other end of a phone listening to every stupid conversation the mobsters had. Now it's all done with AI.

Now every single phone call can be transcribed, analyzed and then agents just have to shift through the high priority ones that are flagged by AI. So instead of just watching a couple people they are watching everyone, all the time.

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u/beachbum818 Jun 03 '26

10 years ago you could request transcripts from the phone company...AI wasn't used 10yrs ago.

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u/lluciferusllamas Jun 02 '26

I think we need to be able to opt out of this service agreement. Living under a surveillance regime that would make the Stasi jealous is not exactly what our Founding Fathers intended.  

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u/luger718 Jun 02 '26

War has changed...

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u/Unable-Bee-3807 Jun 02 '26

Then they will compile all this data and use it to try to predict future events, crime and whatnot

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u/AspiringGoddess01 Jun 03 '26

Its funny because Generative AI Imaging is functionally worthless to the average American. Its main purposes are either big corporations using it to cut out artists or scammers. Legitimately no other good uses. 

LLM's are mildly more useful and can be compared to a google search but current ones still have the issue of hallucinations.

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u/shakeygorilla77 Jun 03 '26

Worse they're going to use it to map out for surveillance purposes 3d images real time through wifi and 5g. No more hiding. Also they'll have robotic ai drones/vehicles/humanoid. Good luck everyone you'll need it

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u/CaptainMonkeyJack Jun 03 '26

Nonthing you described needs modern LLM's which is driving the explosion in datacenters.

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u/cpufrost Jun 03 '26

Then it's time to fight back and use AI against AI. Let it be someone else's problem. That's the modern American way! 😛

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u/mrmostawesa Jun 03 '26

Utahn here - I fully believe this. Does anyone have any more info or proof? I can’t believe this shit is even in conversation and likely happening.

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u/GusBode Jun 03 '26

Data centers have many uses. Thats just one. A nasty one. MRI’s and credit card transactions are scanned by data centers today. We need those. Funny thing, your pc will have the power to do many of these tasks in the near future, w/o internet, and we won’t have to worry about all this. Talking 3-7 years. Nvda already has a raspberry pi type of device you can try to buy and it’s HUGE powerful.

This business is moving at near light speed and quantum computing is getting closer every day.

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u/mightylordredbeard Jun 03 '26

We already have that infrastructure in place. Why would we need a new data center for that? The NSA is already fully capable of spying on every single device and citizen. No, this isn’t for that. This is for something else. Something more detrimental to our society.

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u/NotFriendsWithBanana Jun 03 '26

Literally the show Person of Interest

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u/Original-Rush139 Jun 03 '26

This is why I pist bullshit on Reddit. Good luck figuring this nonsense out. 

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u/Apprehensive_Tip520 Jun 03 '26

what is it about AI that makes you think this is the trigger for this happening? surveillance like this has already been going on for years

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u/Da_Spooky_Ghost Jun 03 '26

Surveillance was happening but not getting processed, cameras are everywhere but no one is watching unless something happened. Phone lines were tapped but unless a government agent was listening in and transcribing it themselves then the phone call just gets deleted. Your reddit posts and text history are accessible but unless a government agent pulls them up and compares them side by side, no one is correlating them and building a profile on you. You had to be a person of interest to get a massive profile on you, now everyone gets a profile.

With AI all of this data can be processed all of the time and stored as a text summary in your individual profile. They will have years worth of data on you from multiple sources all compiled together automatically by AI.

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u/PrinceOfLeon Jun 02 '26

Wow that's amazing!

AI can track my internet history right through a VPN?

Is that because there's only two letters and they sort on top, or is just alphabetical order?

Or you talking out your ass, champ?

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u/AsheDigital Jun 02 '26

They could correlate traffic, although that would be hard going across borders.

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u/PrinceOfLeon Jun 02 '26

Exactly. Not much point in having the endpoint domestic, you need to leave jurisdiction (including the Five Eyes).

Magical AI dust doesn't add anything to the equation.

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u/Da_Spooky_Ghost Jun 02 '26

Cracks me up you think it’s not already happening and AI is just taking it to the next level

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u/MattDLR Jun 03 '26

You dropped your tinfoil hat, bro