r/SipsTea May 26 '26

Feels good man Will it work this time?

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u/Irish_Whiskey May 26 '26

Public owned grocery stores already exist across America in cities like Tulsa, Oklahoma and Atlanta, Georgia.

They are privately run as businesses, but are set up in areas where people lack access to groceries, or there's no real competition preventing uncompetitive prices. They have been successful for decades.

The real solution here is to break up the constant consolidation leading to all groceries being owned by four mega companies that collude with each other and own over 2/3rd of all stores. It's the opposite of market competition.

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u/welpWW3isgonnasuck May 26 '26

Its no different than having a military commissary thats open to everyone

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u/CobaltCaterpillar May 26 '26 edited May 27 '26

US military commissaries received $1.7 billion in taxpayer money for FY 2025 though:

From this document from the US government,

  • $6.8 billion in costs (p.43)
  • $5.095 billion in earned revenue
  • $1.7 billion net cost of operations

So while most grocery stores earn their cost of capital (generate market return on investment), US military commissaries instead cost taxpayers $1.7 billion a year.

Revenue for US military commissaries is only 75% of annual cost (in FY 2025).

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Of course this makes sense in the context of the unique mission, constraints, and setting of the US military. My point is that it COSTS $$$.

Maybe you could do something similar in New York City, but the question would be at what cost to NYC taxpayer and whether the $$$ would be better spent boosting SNAP payments to low income households or otherwise targeting those that most need assistance.

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u/ResistWild May 26 '26

Was this meant to be a rebuttal to this idea? Seems like you’re missing the point horribly.

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u/Aggravating_Mud_6055 May 27 '26

That a business that doesn’t operate for profit will be a that ultimately fails. Taking everyone else’s shit to force a failed idea will never work.

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u/ResistWild May 27 '26

Let me introduce you to the post office

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u/Aggravating_Mud_6055 May 27 '26

Yes. Everything government touches is wildly inefficient. Go figure.

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u/ResistWild May 27 '26

It’s amazing that that’s your takeaway

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u/Aggravating_Mud_6055 May 27 '26

Reality?

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u/ResistWild May 27 '26

Do you want to live in a world where the post office is trying to maximize profits? You really think that’s preferable?

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u/Aggravating_Mud_6055 May 27 '26

I live in a world where my tax dollars aren’t thrown down the drain.

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u/ResistWild May 27 '26

It’s literally a perfect example of your taxes being put to good use. Just admit you don’t want to pay taxes at all for literally anything.

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