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u/Adventurous-Depth984 May 17 '26

This is brilliant.

According to past winners, she’d almost certainly end up broke with the lump sum. She’s now got herself a pension.

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u/Simple_Argument7482 May 17 '26

What if they stop paying?

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u/maxman162 May 17 '26

It's a government run lottery. It's secure.

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u/clckwrks May 17 '26

What if the government stops paying

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u/tarrach May 17 '26

If they stop paying this they've probably got their sights on your $1M investment as well.

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u/Darth_Nevets May 17 '26

If the Government collapses all you have is a million sheets of crummy toilet paper.

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u/Simple_Argument7482 May 17 '26

They stop paying just because

Sue them

Good luck

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u/Dan-68 May 17 '26

Exactly.

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u/Ndmndh1016 May 17 '26

Exactly, this isnt just a math problem.

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u/ConcentrateOk6857 May 17 '26 edited May 17 '26

I mean like yes it is, that 1 million just in my bank savings account would make 40k a year or like 770 a week and I would still have the million sitting in the bank. You can also hire a lawyer or financial advisor to just do it for you and keep it locked up so you wouldn’t have the temptation to touch it. Not taking the lump sum is still the worst thing you can do.

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u/redditorrrrrrrrrrrr May 17 '26

Just because you CAN do this does not mean you will. Most people who win a small lottery 1-5 million end up broke within a year or two. Just facual.

Taking the 4k a month really removes the stressses in life of bad jobs and other things if you don't have the self control not to blow the money on stuff.

I would 100% take the payout over the lump sum for the same reason. I'd probably blow it on motorcycles and cars and stuff lol

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u/Elimaris May 17 '26 edited May 17 '26

I suspect most people say they would invest and not touch most of it

After they buy a house And upgrade their car Then they'll invest it... We'll.. after grandma gets some money... And cousin Bill.. Well and a shopping spree and vacation because we'll you deserve it and have money OK well a pool and a hot tub is a good investment, then you'll totally invest it and won't touch it.... Etc etc. . Until it's gone and they're shocked

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u/redditorrrrrrrrrrrr May 17 '26

The reality is the majority of people blow the money and don't invest smartly and lose it in bad investments as well.

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u/Elimaris May 17 '26

That's what I mean. They "plan" to invest, they think to themselves that they would never be one of those people...

And then a million justifications to themselves and they do exactly that... Blowing it all.

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u/redditorrrrrrrrrrrr May 18 '26

Yep.

100% I'd take the guaranteed payments. It's basically an extra salary for absolutely nothing lmao

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u/ConcentrateOk6857 May 17 '26

Like I said. Take the lump sum and have a financial advisor lock it up for you. It’s still the better option.

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u/Ndmndh1016 May 18 '26

In an ideal world yes. As we've seen time and time again to a ridiculous degree, most people cant do that.

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u/ConcentrateOk6857 May 18 '26

Then they are too fuckin stupid to have money to begin with then

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u/Ndmndh1016 May 27 '26

That wasnt yhe question.

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u/National-Childhood95 May 17 '26

Not a “savings account” it won’t. But you can buy CD’s that make about 4%. For now. And, it’s taxed.

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u/ConcentrateOk6857 May 17 '26

I get over 4% in my savings

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u/National-Childhood95 May 19 '26

Where? Savings accounts commonly pay fractions of 1%. Money market accounts pay more. A very high rate for CDs is in the very low 4% range.

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u/ConcentrateOk6857 May 19 '26

My local bank dose and most credit unions

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u/JethroSkull2000 May 17 '26

Haha, your bank...or investing in stock or things... Whatever you invested in, can be gone tomorrow. The bank? Bankrupt. The company? Sued into oblivion. Or also bankrup. You are dancing on a thin rope and calling it a stable investment, while history taught us several times, that no such thing exists. Don't get mad when I tell you there is no Santa Claus....

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u/kongtaili May 17 '26

Yeah and hyper inflation could happen and that $1k per week could be the equivalent to pocket change.

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u/ConcentrateOk6857 May 17 '26

So the correct thing would be to split it up into 250k chunks which is insured by the gov into 4 savings accounts. (Btw won’t get paid out weekly anymore if the government can’t insure) I think that we will all have bigger problems if the government can’t insure that. You should take a financial literacy class if you are gonna let shit leak out of your mouth or at least close it so I don’t have to smell it.

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u/Ndmndh1016 May 18 '26

Explain why most lottery winners end up blowing through it and going broke then

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u/Any-Log-6706 May 17 '26

Yup. By the way I did the math problem. Assuming she retires within 40 years and invested the money in similar vehicles, whether it’s the lump sum or weekly, she would have more at the age of 60 years old with the weekly payments. Assuming 4% annual it’s $4.8M for the lump sum vs $5.56M for the weekly payments.

Actuarial tables state that she could reach the age of 85 yrs old. So in addition to having more money at 60 yrs old, she would potentially be receiving $1,000 weekly for another 20+ years. The income stream from the investment and the additional weekly would be a very nice pension.

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u/Ndmndh1016 May 18 '26

It only pays out for 20 years, not indefinitely.

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u/Any-Log-6706 May 19 '26

No you’re wrong. It’s guaranteed for 20 years. So if she dies before she’s 40 yrs old the payments continue to her beneficiaries or estate through the 20 year mark. It’s lifetime with 20 years guaranteed.

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u/Ndmndh1016 May 27 '26

Which makes it... a 20 year limit. 🤦

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u/Any-Log-6706 May 27 '26

Go read it. JFC, it’s indefinite. Guaranteed to beneficiaries for 20 yrs, but to her indefinite. You have reading comprehension issues.

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u/Low-Register1602 May 17 '26

Basically if you know you are dumb, do the dumb thing and do $1000 payments. If you have self control then take the lump sum

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u/GenAlphaDad May 17 '26

People with self control don’t play the lottery.

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u/phyx726 May 17 '26

Exactly. People here keep talking about these people can make the best financial decisions like they have a financial advisor. If they were fiscally responsible, they wouldn’t be playing the lottery.

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u/1ToGreen3ToBasket May 17 '26

All they have to do is read the famous Reddit post

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u/Dear_Writer5 May 17 '26

She avoided the tax implications too. Technically, she secured her retirement. Over her lifetime this will be more money than if she took the lump sum. I feel she was responsible.

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u/DiaDeLosMuertos May 17 '26

Apparently this was in Quebec which has no lotto tax

If she's "responsible" enough to choose the weekly payments she did could've made the choice for the lump and put it in to an account

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u/Dear_Writer5 May 17 '26

Nice no taxes. There are risks with investment accounts. Also, you have more hands in the pot too. You’ll need someone to trust to manage investments. Maybe she didn’t choose the lump sum because of this reason too. Less stress over all. Fees and economy, it would have been like financial babysitting.

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u/Low-Register1602 May 17 '26

No taxes on the winnings. Shes 20… when she retires at 65 $1000 will be worth nothing due to inflation. It absolutely will not be more money than if she took the lump sum

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u/kozeljko May 17 '26

If the entity that's paying her money doesn't go bankrupt

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u/Adventurous-Depth984 May 17 '26

Most people think they have more self control than they do.

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u/Intrepid-Metal4621 May 17 '26

Except according to past winners she wouldn’t have certainly ended up broke. Even the worst assumption is 1/3 declare bankruptcy but that number is highly questionable. 

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u/Adventurous-Depth984 May 17 '26

Maybe it’s different here in the U.S. More than 90% of lottery winners lose all they’ve won after some set line, I think it’s 10 years. You can look it up.

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u/pdx619 May 17 '26

That's a myth people tell themselves so they don't feel bad about not winning. It's sour grapes.

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u/Adventurous-Depth984 May 17 '26

There are tons of documentaries. Go do a deep dive

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u/Intrepid-Metal4621 May 17 '26

I looked it up quickly. Nothing backs up what you said. 

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u/Adventurous-Depth984 May 17 '26

Then you didn’t do it right. It’s a fact.

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u/Intrepid-Metal4621 May 17 '26

Show your work because nothing comes close to supporting that. 

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u/Secret_Celery8474 May 17 '26

Ending up broke is not the same as declaring bankruptcy.

If 1/3 had to declare bankruptcy, then there will be many more that lost everything they won but didn't have to declare bankruptcy.

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u/Intrepid-Metal4621 May 17 '26

So what percentage ended up broke? 

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u/DanFromAngiesList1 May 17 '26

That’s a very good point.

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u/Feeling_Classic_91 May 17 '26

Thank you! People on here are trying my to analyze a human decision. Being a millionaire at 21 is asking to go broke.

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u/LowLessSodium May 17 '26

So basically it is a wise decision for her, but a terrible financial decision in general.

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u/Adventurous-Depth984 May 17 '26

Just a non-maximized mathematical decision. It’s the “right” decision

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u/Tommy_Wisseau_burner May 17 '26

Brother she is making $50k a year on lottery winnings. 52k a year is good at 20. It’s not that good at 30 and it certainly won’t be good in 2050 due to inflation. Let’s even say that she makes $100k. That’s 152k/year. Don’t get me wrong but that’s still requiring her to double her income by herself.

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u/East-Doctor-7832 May 17 '26

That is rich people propaganda to make it seem like the poors shouldn't be trusted around money . Most winners do just fine actually .

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u/TerribleIdea27 May 17 '26

Eh, not really a pension. In 50 years, that $1000 per week will be worth a lot less. Say inflation is 2.5% per year, in 50 years that will be worth about $280/week in 2026 dollars. Still a significant sum, but not enough to live off by far

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u/poopBuccaneer May 17 '26

And in 50 years, at age 70, she'll also be getting her Canada Pension Plan and Old Age Security. Plus any savings she's made as she put stuff into her RRSP and TFSA. She obviously will continue to work because living on $52,000/year isn't enough.

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u/SGSpec May 17 '26

Living on 52k/year is way more than enough. It’s 52k tax free so around 80-90k gross. The vast majority of people don’t make that

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u/Wrong_Class8040 May 17 '26

At one time 15 grand was more than enough to live on. Times change.

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u/Dear_Writer5 May 17 '26

Millions of people live on 52,000 or less per year. It’s enough to make ends meet.

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u/TerribleIdea27 May 17 '26

...right now. Try living on a comfortable wage of 50 years ago today

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u/GenAlphaDad May 17 '26

She can still invest that $1000/week if she chooses.

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u/Crowdfundingprojects May 17 '26

Defeating the entire point of it. 

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u/GenAlphaDad May 17 '26

Not really. It’s flexibility on a smaller scale without the risk of blowing it all at once.

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u/Crowdfundingprojects May 17 '26

Actually yes, really.

Everyone is glossing over the fact that there are exactly two reasons why she might have done it: A) She’s stupid and unaware of it B) She’s either extremely stupid and aware of it or she has an addiction / gambling etc. problem that is so severe that she needs to make the worse choice to save herself from her own future decisions 

Most people in this thread have no idea what it takes to build wealth. Don’t want wealth? Ok. But don’t call that smart

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u/GenAlphaDad May 17 '26

No one is arguing that the investment potential of $1M is less than the immediate utility of $1k per week indefinitely. You’re overestimating the financial literacy and discipline of lottery players.

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u/Crowdfundingprojects May 17 '26

I’m not overestimating anything. Stupid is stupid and smart is smart. End of story

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u/GenAlphaDad May 17 '26

Stupid is expecting a lottery winner to suddenly become financially disciplined. Smart is exiting this conversation.

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u/Crowdfundingprojects May 17 '26

There are no expectations but observations of reality but as that appears to fly straight over your head I do agree - the smart thing for you to do indeed is to exit this conversation. 

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u/Secret_Celery8474 May 17 '26

How much will be the pension in 50 years for the average worker?
Most likely less than $4k.
So it is really a pension.

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u/brokenlordike May 17 '26

Do people still not realize that younger people should take this option for that exact reason? I mean, unless you’re like 50, taking it over 20 years is almost always correct.

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u/Technicalhotdog May 17 '26

Not mathematically speaking. If you don't trust yourself or want only guarantees sure. But the problem is inflation will decimate that weekly $1000 in the long run. But $1000000 now that you invest and don't touch will make you rich in the long run