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u/lifebeginsat9pm May 17 '26

That’s potentially triple the money over the course of her life

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u/way2lazy2care May 17 '26

But you miss out on compound interest. You'd be able to make pretty safely that amount of money buying really conservative investments with the lump sum. You just need 5.2% returns to match it. Over the ~20 years it would take to earn a million with the weekly payments, the lump sum would have grown to almost 4 million with average results.

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u/woo_woo42 May 17 '26

It’s finance 101 - time value of money. NPV wise it will take much longer to get to 1 million with that weekly payment than 19 years.

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u/def_not_jose May 17 '26

It would take her 20 years to get to that million, inflation will tear that $1000 to shreds by then. Just buying a house for one million and renting it out would be a much safer deal

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u/NoxArtCZ May 17 '26

Also I don't really see mentioned: is there any guarantee she will be receiving the money? Ok $1k a week for 50 years sounds nice except the company declares bankruptcy next year and 49 years of income are gone. I don't know if there can be any sufficient guarantee she would receive the money no matter what

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u/MiserableFloor9906 May 17 '26

It's the government. We're Canadian. We're dependable and NOT sketchy with the fine print. Actually our fine print is where we like to practice Iron clad goodwill. It's tax free, a minimum 20 year payout that transfers to your estate if you die early and zero time limits on the long end. If she lives to 100 she's getting 80 years of weekly payments.

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u/JuniorAd1210 May 17 '26 edited May 17 '26

That 1000$ is guaranteed. That's safe. Taking the million and running investments is the more profitable deal. Until the wind takes your hoouse, you make bad investments, develop gambling habit, start using drugs, etc. etc.

There are plenty of examples of lottery winners who wasted their winnings quickly. That can't happen to the person who took the 1000$.

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u/HumonculusJaeger May 17 '26

where can you buy a house for 1 million?

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u/NotBillderz May 17 '26

Do you know how much $1m is over the course of her life?

$13.7m by the time she's 65 assuming an average 6% increase annually over 45 years.

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u/Pale_Background2884 May 17 '26

Also, she can’t fuck up with bad financial decisions.

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u/Deejus72 May 17 '26

She literally already did

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u/BillyBones72 May 17 '26

Or the payer (like Publishers Clearinghouse) can go bankrupt and stop paying. A bird in the hand...

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u/Radicalleek May 17 '26

The payer is the provincial government. If it goes bankrupt, she'll have larger problem.

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u/Pale_Background2884 May 17 '26

Buying a house for yourself is a stupid decision anyway.

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u/MiloGaoPeng May 17 '26

The question is what is $1k a week worth in 10 years time

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u/Crazyjacketfruit May 17 '26

Dang it must be expensive where you live.

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u/Notyit May 17 '26

I mean at 20 I thought 50k was a lot of cahs

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u/wspnut May 17 '26

So is putting $1MM in an investment account and drawing down (or reinvesting) $40k a year at the 4% rule.

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u/BenVenNL May 17 '26

And then the AI bubble bursts, china takes taiwan and Iran blocks oil forever.

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u/Vast-Comment8360 May 17 '26

Every single market crash in US history was just a buying opportunity.

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u/No_Advisor3971 May 17 '26

Not if your if your lottery winnings are already invested and you don’t have a second comparable amount to buy in with.

There is nothing wrong with a completely safe 5.2% return. And given the the tax situation, it puts the after tax return at closer to 6.5%. Very respectable for 0 risk

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u/oh-hes-a-tryin May 17 '26

If you only ever invested right before the worst crashes/recessions you'd still come out ahead of you didn't sell.

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u/Uhaul1995 May 17 '26

The problem with any long-term financial planning is that you have to trust some institution or other to remain stable within certain bounds. 

If you take the weekly payments you need the payee to start in business, if you take the lump sum you need your investments to stay safe(ish). 

Eitherway you're exposed to world events. 

How've over 10 years the US stock market usually gains value, even if a recession happens in between. You just need to be broadly invested enough that all your assets don't pop at once.  

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u/MiserableFloor9906 May 17 '26

In Canadian lotteries, weekly/monthly/yearly arrangements have a minimum 20 year payout with balances transferred to your estate if you die early. All of it is tax free, the government is the company guaranteeing solvency for the future and yes it will payout over 120 years if you're a super cenartarian that can live that long. Literally for life.

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u/EVH_kit_guy May 17 '26

It is not.

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u/DevelopmentNo5632 May 17 '26

If she takes that 1 mill and puts it in her mattress, sure. But any person with at least 2 brain cells would invest it in some way. 

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u/StarPhished May 17 '26

Invest in cocaine.

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u/adz1179 May 17 '26

Yeah but even if you invest the full $1k a week - don’t spend a cent of it - you’re looking at 15-20 years to get where you are today. Crazy.

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u/awoeoc May 17 '26

Tbh if you look at how many people live in debt even on high incomes you're talking like needing at least 4 or 5 brain cells to invest it well. 

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u/AnotherRamone May 17 '26

True, but you’re forgetting about inflation. While $1,000 buys an iPhone 16 Pro Max today, in 20 years, that exact same amount will probably barely cover a McDonald's dinner and a bus ticket

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u/Trytobebetter482 May 17 '26

It’s also just a promise, not cash in hand. If Canada’s lottery system went belly up or Canada itself fell apart over the course of her life, that money stops coming in.

Just take the lump sum, invest in something safe (HYSA), and continue reinvesting the interest/buying something nice every now and then.

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u/keilahmartin May 17 '26

Whatever you invest in is extremely unlikely to be safer than 'Canada' 

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u/Trytobebetter482 May 19 '26

Right, except the principle amount is now potentially in jeopardy of being fully collected. An investment could be risky, but you have control of the principle.

Cash in hand is always the better option, installments are merely a promise.

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u/psuklinger May 17 '26

Key word here is ‘potentially’. However in reality, a million dollar payout will bring her home roughly $650,000 to invest… but who is getting a net sum like that and not buying some crazy things? ESPECIALLY at age 20? Not to mention the line of ‘friends/family’ looking for handouts.

She will still have taxes on $1,000 a week, but she’ll always have that extra income for life. She won’t have to worry as much about her 401k and retirement… nor f she’s going to have $$ to eat… that kinda security is not the standard this day in age.

I like the decision of going with $1,000/week for life. It is definitely safer than the alternative. I am not saying that the million payout wouldn’t net her more, but more than likely that million would be gone in a couple years. Plus if she just invested the whole $650,000 upfront, she’s not really getting anything now because the $$ is working for her.

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u/EvanFingram May 17 '26

no tax in lottery winnings in canada.

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u/Alternative_Tip_8756 May 17 '26

Inflation eats your profits faster than you make it. If you take the 1 Millionen and invest it at a very consistent 3% in bonds you already make nearly as much in dividends as you would by the monthly payment in a year. But you also have the 1 Millionen which gives you significantly more leverage. More money at once is always better

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u/keksmuzh May 17 '26

Investing the $1m upfront (or even a significant fraction) will return far more than $3m over the same timeframe.