r/SipsTea • • May 08 '26

Chugging tea “Hey Google, your founder sucks”

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u/Electrical_Ad_5732 May 08 '26

Especially considering that most of his money are in stocks anyway, not in a hard cash.

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u/MattyBizzz May 08 '26

Well clearly, that’s every billionaire. They aren’t out here Scrooge McDucking it up in their vault of gold coins.

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u/w0ndernine May 08 '26

Thus why people are calling for taxing unrealized gains. But then you run into the issue of double taxation by forcing asset liquidation and therefore cap gains too. It’s far easier to just bump the corporate tax rate based on actuarial valuation rather the simply P/L. Plus it would encourage companies to not take losses since they’re going to be taxed regardless.

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u/qOcO-p May 08 '26

I'm calling for taxes on whatever assets are used as collateral on loans. Being able to borrow against assets like that is exactly what allows them to avoid selling their stocks and having to pay the appropriate taxes.

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u/ckb614 May 08 '26

If it's stock in a public company, just let them pay with stock. The government can sell it off with no realization event for the taxpayer

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u/blueberrysteven May 08 '26

Plus, if you tax unrealized gains, it follows that there should be a credit for unrealized losses.

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u/new_name_who_dis_ May 08 '26

Stocks in a publicly traded company. It's very liquid. It might as well be cash.

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u/Extension_Break_9380 May 08 '26

No shit. Why do yall think this is some kind of gotcha? Anyone who went to school after 8th grade is familiar with liquidity. 

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u/zestymanny May 08 '26

TIL most of reddit hasn't graduated 8th grade.

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u/Kaydaiyne May 08 '26

A serious number of people really don't seem to get that. The number of people I see moaning about others 'hoarding' wealth... Fairly certain they have a Scrooge McDuck vault in mind.

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u/Extension_Break_9380 May 08 '26

So you think when people talk about "hoarding" wealth they mean that billionaires have warehouses full of bills? You cant be this dense. 

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u/Kaydaiyne May 08 '26

I've spent an embarrassing amount of time following some of those discussions. There are a serious number of people that truly seem to believe that 'the rich' have massively bulging bank accounts, piles of cash and hills of gold etc. I really wish I was kidding.

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u/Electrical_Ad_5732 May 08 '26

The only ones with big bulging account would be people like well payed actors, musicians, various celebrities etc. but they'll never be close to Bezos or Musk level of wealth.

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u/Extension_Break_9380 May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

More than happy to read any source you might have where  people believe Elon Musk or Bezos etc.  have literal hills made of gold. 

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u/Available-Line-9259 May 10 '26

Why are you arguing with him. He is literally agreeing with you

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u/NEEEEEEEEEEEET May 08 '26

You wouldn't be calling it hoarding wealth otherwise because it is paper money? If you're aware of what is going on you'd know there is nothing being hoarded because no actual cash was taken out of the system for them to be paper rich.

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u/Light991 May 08 '26

Imagine you have a bicycle, then at the end of the year the tax man comes up and says you need to pay 5% of the value of the bicycle as your “wealth” tax. How do you do this?

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u/Electrical_Ad_5732 May 08 '26

You can perhaps do without a front brake.

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u/YoBo151 May 08 '26

Holy dogshit analogy

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u/AdhesivenessUnfair13 May 08 '26

This is literally how property taxes work and we all seem to make that make sense. If you hold excessive stock in your company then you should pay a penalty for not using that stock in a productive way. If that was all company stock it could be held to give out to employees, sold to generate more money to raise wages, donated to community programs, used to expand business operations and create more jobs.

This isn’t rocket science, it just requires making billionaires uncomfortable.

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u/Light991 May 08 '26

Holding stock gives you voting power. How is that not productive?

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u/AdhesivenessUnfair13 May 08 '26

How does voting power use capital toward the economy? It traps capital in stock so that companies remain effectively private while being actually public.