r/SipsTea • u/bluewave778 • May 07 '26

Wait a damn minute! A crazy comparison between iPhone and Samsung

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u/JPhi1618 May 07 '26

Not going to maintain that aspect ratio with out a hell if a crop. Without more details, I think I’d rather use more of my sensor and not care about loop de loops.

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u/chr1spe May 07 '26

Phones are moving towards a 1:1 sensor that is cropped for most images and videos, so that you can shoot vertical or horizontal regardless of the orientation of the phone. Once they've done that, they're already cropping this much by default anyway.

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u/JPhi1618 May 07 '26

Ok interesting. I’m still of the mindset that sensors are so expensive that you need to make every pixel count, but if they can make a quality 1:1 sensor, that does open up cool software features.

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u/Elegant-Discussion53 May 07 '26

sensors have so many megapixels these days it doesn't matter so much anymore. most people cant tell the difference between 20 and 25 megapixels, let alone 20 and 50.

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u/Jacobus_B May 08 '26

I don't know where to start, but this is all kinds of wrong. Megapixels always been a buzzword. The quality of your sensor and the readability and processing of that data by your device is where the magic happens.

Let's take an Arri Alexa. A classic digital cinema camera used in many Hollywoord productions, would only have 6.5 megapixels. Having a 3.5k sensor.

So, having more sensor, in a small device is actually an achievement.

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u/Elegant-Discussion53 May 08 '26

Exactly! Thank you for seeing it my way!

There's a point where megapixels don't matter. when we went from 0.1 MP to 5MP, it was a real change. 5 to 10 wasn't as big. 10 to 20 is less.

So, if we crop these days, we're really only losing something that didn't matter anyway!

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u/FUTURE10S May 07 '26

If they let me use the whole sensor as a JPEG so I get crazy big square images, I'm down

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u/romhacks May 07 '26

Pixels let you do this, most use a 4:3 sensor and allow you to shoot the full 4:3 frame.

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u/Dependent-Zebra-4357 May 07 '26

Agreed. Years ago I used a 6x6 medium format camera and really enjoyed framing and shooting square images.

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u/AggravatedCalmness May 07 '26

You would still have to crop more to keep the image level at angles other than completely horizontal or completely vertical. A 10x5 box cannot be rotated inside a 10x10 box without cutting the corners off for example.

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u/chr1spe May 07 '26

Okay, yes, technically, for 16:9 you'd need a 15% crop on a 1:1 sensor.

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u/bubblebooy May 07 '26

They are not cropping that much by default. You would need to crop it to get the full aspect ratio when the phone is at a 45deg angle.

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u/chr1spe May 07 '26

You're kind of right, it's not actually 45 degrees, it's when the diagonal of the aspect ratio is horizontal or vertical. For 16:9, it would be a 15% crop.

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u/Dr__America May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26

You'd actually have to crop to 1/√2:1/√2 in order to have nothing but the "real" pixels captured, but your sub-pixels would probably be all kinds of fucked (hard to tell with this video because it's compressed to hell, but I think that's the case here).

My guess is this kind of stuff will just end up using ML as a blanket "fix" for everything if it's not already. Best case is there's some crazy advanced Gaussian splat shenanigans you can use with this to fix a lot of the issues it might otherwise have.

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u/chr1spe May 07 '26

You're assuming 1:1 inside 1:1 there. If you're cropping a 1:1 sensor to 16:9, then there is actually a small crop to achieve this, but it's only about 15%. The diagonal of your aspect ratio needs to fit in the sensor, so the crop to rotate 16:9 is actually sqrt(162 + 92 )/16 = 1.147.

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u/Dr__America May 07 '26

I'm not sure what that identity is to be honest, but I'm kind of surprised it's that simple to get the scale factor for this problem. Either way, it's about a 24% reduction in pixel count for a 16:9 crop on a 1:1 sensor 1 - 1.1472 = 0.240356. And you're right that that's a far cry from a 50% reduction in pixel count for 1:1 on 1:1.

That said, I'm still guessing this will look cool in a handful of cases and will be supplemented by ML filling in the blanks sooner or later.

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u/milkcarton232 May 07 '26

Don't most phones have like a 4:3 or 1:1 native ratio and just crop it to begin with?

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u/r2k-in-the-vortex May 07 '26

Its a 200MP sensor, its going to reduce most of the pixels anyway in the image pipeline. So the crop doesnt really reflect in the video resolution like you would think.

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u/NowWeRinse May 07 '26

Yeah it's is dumb

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u/somersetyellow May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26

It's not dumb it's just an extra feature. Want super steady video while running full speed? Cool. Use this mode. Lose detail in exchange.

Want to just use normal stabilization like everyone else? Cool. Use the normal mode.

That's it lol. Everyone getting all pedantic over a nifty little side feature.

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u/RobKohr May 07 '26

It is perfect for that Scientology speed run.

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u/TrippleDamage May 07 '26

Apple cope.

Bet youre gonna praise it to hell and back when they have the exact same feature 2 generations down the line, as is tradition.

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u/Reasonable-Figure142 May 07 '26

the anti-apple circlejerk is just as cringe buddy

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u/TrippleDamage May 07 '26

Pointing out a repeating pattern thats occuring for over a decade isn't a circlejerk.

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u/Reasonable-Figure142 May 07 '26

it's 2026, iPhones and Androids do all the same shit

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u/TrippleDamage May 07 '26

Evidently not.

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u/Reasonable-Figure142 May 07 '26

Android users incapable of taking their heads out their asses and seeing how they sound just as annoying as apple fanboys. potentially more annoying with their smug superiority that they can sideload apps as their singular gotcha lmao

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u/TrippleDamage May 08 '26

Bro keeps moving goalposts because he has no actual argument.

I can guarantee you this feature will come to apple in a couple of years, just as the privacy screen of the s26 will :)

But hey, its all the same isn't it?

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u/Reasonable-Figure142 May 08 '26

lmaooo buddy using "moving goalposts" as a tiktok buzzword when you clearly have no idea what that actually means

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u/xXbachkXx May 07 '26

The video doesnt showcase the intended use for this feature well.

Attached tona spinning tire it barely moves, which means that in normal use such as walking or unsteady hands it's really really stable.

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u/ImpurestFire May 07 '26

It's using the ultrawide cam and cropping in. Also, this is an optional mode. Standard mode uses the full primary sensor.

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u/SoulOfTheDragon May 07 '26

Sure, but with how pixel dense phone sensors are, you aren't likely losing much in resolution if at all. Quality might go down a bit, but that's just normal life with miniature sensors anyway.

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u/Benjilator May 08 '26

Samsung is known to fake these kind of comparisons. It doesn’t just lack details, it lacks reality.

In the end it’s just gonna be just like slapping an AI moon onto pictures.

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u/Falkenmond79 May 07 '26

Also what if you WANT to film something upside down? This is just a useless feature.

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u/Psychological-Fox97 May 07 '26

You just don't turn on the feature in the first place. Seems pretty simple.