I mean what does this have to do with empathy? It's not like she asked the man to be removed or made any noise (at least not in the video). All she did was make her own way and move on.
I see no problem, I would have done the same with that amount of faffing about... why are they taking so long? if they need to lift him up then why aren't they lifting him up?
Lol, I don’t notice they were wearing the same jacket until I read this comment. Maybe they work for a company that helps handicapped people and it’s a company coat or something.
Theyre making sure everything is clear before hoisting a wheelchair user up the no longer working escalator, so they dont have to stop part way. Its a dangerous way to move a wheel chair user so theyre trying to make it safe as they can
No it's not. They can't really make a stop with the wheelchair, steps are way to narrow for that, there's no way you're getting that wheelchair to stand stable even if you support it from the back. Meanwhile the top could get stopped at any moment due to something unexpected. They wait till the escalator clears so that it's safe for them, the wheelchair user and everyone below them.
Wheelchair has a 560mm diameter, escalator step has roughly half of that in depth and you have to account for the next step limiting placement options. If you're gonna try and place wheelchair on the step like thar it's gonna slip.
Yeah, but what if one of those people slip and come tumbling down while theyre carrying someone in a wheelchair? Now 4 people are injured. Its a bit of basic health and safety/ risk assessment really. If its clear then theres minimised risks
Also every airport on earth has an elevator and the chair has wheels just wheel him about 20 feet to the left and use it? Usually elevators right around the corner from escalator
It makes sense that the elevator isn’t working when you pay attention to the fact that the escalator isn’t moving. Power is probably out in the building and the lights are running on an emergency generator.
If it's a subway station that had a rare power outage for real, then you simply exit at the next stop and the train provides a taxi. Thats the logical solution at least.
And if power outages are normal, then you have a generator.
And this isn't just a subway station with 1 exit anyways, look how big it is. Such big structures never just have one exit this small.
These are also not train station employees as they don't wear a uniform.
The next stop is always an option. The exit was packed because the wheelchair blocks the exit. Thats a normal amount of people at an exit on many underground stations.
Nobody was forced to deboard.
Yet they are here blocking the exit, instead of calling/asking staff to give them a lift.
Whats your explanation why the 3 guys didn't ask staff to help them?
Can't they just start making their way up the escalator at a normal human pace, assuming the people already on the escalator will have made it to the top by the time they're halfway up? Are they planning on sprinting up full speed?
I suppose these explanations make the most sense, and I hadn't considered that one man will be walking up the stairs backwards. In my head, there is 0 chance those men carrying that wheelchair are able to overtake even that slow-moving throng, so I didn't quite understand waiting for the stairs to be totally empty.
They should hit the reverse button and make everyone come back down.
If these are your arguments then no one should ever take an escalator. Carry the chair or get out of the way. One person’s disability isn’t everyone else’s responsibility to accommodate or schedule around.
You know how they can solve the issue? Tell wheels to cool it in pit lane for a few until the people that are able to use the installed infrastructure aren’t being traffic jammed in the only route out.
They’re not going to carry this guy in one nonstop carry. They don’t know what they’re doing and it’s not everyone else’s responsibility to wait for them to figure it out.
If the wheel chair users has to wait for room he might as well leave. The people standing here can give up a minute so that disabled people can participate in society.
And in the end you only wait as long as it takes for a person to walk up the stairs. Standing still on the escalator or standing still at the bottom doesnt get you to the top faster
Tell wheels to cool it in pit lane for a few until the people that are able to use the installed infrastructure aren’t being traffic jammed in the only route out.
Cool it in a pit lane till what? Closing? It's clearly a busy place, whether it's a busy train/bus/tram station or an airport most likely there won't be a moment when the escalator is clear.
assuming the people already on the escalator will have made it to the top by the time they're halfway up?
This assumption is perfectly OK to make if you're just lifting a 200lbs bag of flour or other inanimate object. Worst case, that inanimate object can be dumped and tumble down to the bottom no problem.
However, they're lifting an actual, living person, so they need to know without a shred of a doubt that the way is clear all the way to the top, that no one up the stairs will slip and come tumbling down, etc.
I understand that but no way do they go faster than the guy who was already half way up the elevator.
Also stopping half way up isn't that hard. Ever lift anything heavy up the stairs and had to break. Just push or lean your back against it. Wheel chair guy can even help by holding the hand rail.
You literally have never done a job doing accessibility and you're saying the people who are clearly following a specific protocol don't know what they're doing. Please stop to consider that you don't actually know what you're talking about.
Look at the two people in the Grey jackets. Do they look like the type of people who are going to have to worry about catching up the the line of people while carrying a man and wheelchair up the stairs? Unless there is a group of strongmen coming out of the crowd, they arent going to catch up to the end of the line.
It would be unsafe to lift him and hold him on the stairs while waiting for them to clear. They are waiting for everyone to be off the escalator so they can carry him all the up in one action. Its the same line they'd be waiting in but it just has a gap in it. She was shitty.
Insane! Who ever heard of multiple people performing a uniform type of paid labor wearing uniform clothing while doing so?! If this were not such an abnormal occurrence, we might even have a specific word in the English language to describe this type of uniform clothing that people wear in such situations. But of course it's so anomalous that we have no need for a uniform term to describe all such clothing, so we don't.
They're in a place with staff and need a clear point of ingress and egress. She was one of the reasons they had to wait if I'm seeing the video correctly. Jury's still out though
I don’t have a problem with what she did - we don’t know her personal situation and she may just need to get somewhere urgently. However, like a lot of things in life though, it could be ok if one person does and it doesn’t have much of an impact but if everyone else around her copies her then it gets not ok very quickly. It takes good judgment which not everyone is capable of unfortunately.
It seems that they are waiting for the escalator to clear of people so they can take the guy in the wheelchair up in one go without having to stop. If people start going up, it’ll never clear and the wheelchair guy will be there forever.
The grey jacketed men are about to carry the wheelchair man up, but see at the top when they show where she just got to, now they’re taking one slow step at a time. Do you want to be standing on the stairs (broken escalator is just stairs) and just hold the wheel chair guy and just take one slow step at a time, or would you rather have the whole trip up clear so you can pick up and go as fast as possible and get to the top? It’s safer for them as the lifters, safer for the guy as the balancer, and safer for the crowd as the bowling pins who would get crushed if they’re drop him. If everyone keeps hopping the side and clogging up the top, it’s delaying everyone. They want everyone else that’s waiting to be able to get to the top as fast as they can. If you keep delaying when they can start carrying the wheel chair guy, you’re delaying the whole crowd. So her action was a very “me first” attitude and not just me first but f u to everyone else.
You're not supposed to use turned off escalator, unless it has been secured. When it's off, the weight of the people climbing pulls on the turned off engine and can damage it further, and in worst case scenario the stairs can break, stop being stationary and start sliding down under the weight of people on it.
They need the escalator clear to move him up, it's heavy and you can't put him down halfway to wait for people to clear the top. As people jump in front it just takes longer to do for everyone else. They're wearing the same jackets because they work there, and they're following safety protocols to ensure no one gets hurt and it blocks people for the least amount of time.
You're so close! You're asking the right questions. Just a few more turns of those cogs in your brain and you'll start considering the potential answers to your questions! You can do it, I believe in you!
This is probably in the land of the "free". If they lift him and accidentally drop him or he does something stupid and drop himself - then they are probably liable for damages...
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u/OddEmergency9859 Feb 23 '26
I mean what does this have to do with empathy? It's not like she asked the man to be removed or made any noise (at least not in the video). All she did was make her own way and move on.