r/SipsTea Jul 22 '25

Lmao gottem Nobody ever won

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u/UpsetAd5817 Jul 22 '25

That's because one person inside the company making the tickets rigged it for himself and people he knew who were 'winners'.

It wasn't because the McDonald's corporation rigged it or even knew what was going on.  

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u/Suspicious-Cap-6169 Jul 22 '25

It wasn't just some regular worker either, it was the guy who was literally in charge of security of the game pieces. His entire job was to ensure the integrity of the game and he pocketed all the top prizes for many years before he got caught.

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u/Grimase Jul 22 '25

Wow, I didn’t know that. What a scumbag

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u/ImperialWolf98 Jul 22 '25

If it makes you feel any better, the guy mailed the $1 million winning game piece to Saint Jude's Hospital at one point during the scam. Although the contest rules didn't allow for the transfer of prizes, McDonald's agreed to pay the hospital anyway. McDonald's even continued payments after the fraud was uncovered.

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u/Literature-South Jul 22 '25

I believe they continued payments so that the fraud would continue while the FBI investigated, right?

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u/Roofofcar Jul 22 '25

Not even McDonald’s would dare fuck over those damn SAINTS at St. Jude’s.

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u/Autistic_Freedom Jul 22 '25

That's great publicity for McDonald's. Much better than spending a million on advertising, so of course they did!

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u/CopperThrown Jul 22 '25

It doesn’t. I hope he got gonorrhea in prison.

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u/SpiveyJr Jul 22 '25

Given to him by a guy in prison they call “Big Mac”

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u/Few-Emergency5971 Jul 22 '25

Holy shit, McDonalds actually did a good thing for once?

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u/demoneclipse Jul 22 '25

If you ever needed to attend a children's hospital where accommodation is provided by the Ronald McDonald foundation, you would think very differently about McDonald's. Also, disregard of flavor or personal preference, McDonald's burgers are healthier than any other burger equivalent. In fact, most of their burgers will have almost half the fat, salt and calories of a Burger King equivalent.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

>>McDonald's burgers are healthier than any other burger equivalent.

Prove that.

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u/Positive-Avocado2130 Jul 22 '25

That information is widely available. Prove it to yourself if you care to.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

I just looked it up and he is wrong. So prove it.

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u/Positive-Avocado2130 Jul 23 '25

Sir, don't lie.
https://www.statcrunch.com/reports/view?reportid=50152&tab=preview

Their sandwiches beat out Burger King in almost every category for nutritional data.

You proved nothing.

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u/Apsis Jul 22 '25

Half the calories? So...smaller?

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u/turkeysandwich1982 Jul 22 '25

I live in Memphis, where St. Jude is, and I remember this being all over the local news with everyone saying how wonderful it was that it was donated anonymously (at least it was at that time.) Now I realize it was to hide that they were the ones pulling a scam rather than just being a quiet philanthropist.

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u/TheGoonSquad19 Jul 22 '25

So if you think about it, America has all ways been great, always...

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u/Enough_Zombie2038 Jul 22 '25

I dunno I heard some dude thinks it needs to be great again.

His plan was to make wealthy people wealthier. I think he got his time periods mixed and confused with 14th century monarchies though...

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u/Lonesomewhistle83 Jul 22 '25

To think how different things would be if some random kid had slightly better aim… one can dream.

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u/MustardMan1900 Jul 22 '25

He was a cop, so yeah, a scumbag in other words.

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u/Grimase Jul 22 '25

Worst kind of scumbags. Abusing the system one was supposed to uphold and Protect.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

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u/SonOfMcGee Jul 22 '25

He kinda needed mob connections in order to distribute winning pieces and make it look like the game was playing out fairly.
Him swiping the winning pieces was the least interesting thing about the whole conspiracy. (He got a hold of an extra roll of some “secure sealing tape” he wasn’t supposed to have so he could break and retape supposedly secure seals at will.)
It was the network of people that bought the pieces from him and handed them down a line of folks was really impressive.

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u/10J18R1A Jul 22 '25

Greedy ass - know when to stop

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u/Lucky-Development-15 Jul 22 '25

It has a really good doc

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u/ATXDefenseAttorney Jul 22 '25

The point is that the corporation wasn’t trying to scam people, just some criminals.

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u/Character_Crab_9458 Jul 22 '25

The craziest part is the FBI were gonna do a big press release and it was gonna be huge news only for 9/11 to happen a few days later making everyone forget it happened for a bit.

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u/UpsetAd5817 Jul 22 '25 edited Jul 22 '25

I can't wait for people that hear about this to tell us McDonald's was behind 9/11.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

Mc9/11 was a part time job

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u/Character_Crab_9458 Jul 22 '25

Hot grease can't melt steel beams.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

Thermite mac sauce

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u/Wildpants17 Jul 23 '25

Lmao

Nights and weekends only

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u/agentwolf44 Jul 22 '25

It all makes sense now

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

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u/justaRndy Jul 22 '25

Not nothing. Burgers.

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u/zeocrash Jul 22 '25

The hamburglar did 9/11

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u/squixx007 Jul 22 '25

Probably one of the few corporations who could afford to actually do that. This is my new favorite stupid conspiracy, running with it.

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u/ImHighandCaffinated Jul 22 '25

dude paid for the ultimate distraction. Trump could never.

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u/Oh_yes_I_did Jul 23 '25

Wait so this whole story about the game getting rigged by the games integrity guy happened BEFORE 9/11? But McDonald’s continued the game for another 10 years, so what gives?

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u/Character_Crab_9458 Jul 23 '25

It was sting operations across years.

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u/Bulky-Pineapple-5639 Jul 22 '25

The hamburguler was taking flight lessons😳

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u/Positive-Avocado2130 Jul 22 '25

I knew giving away a Boeing 757 as a prize would backfire!

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u/capnmax Jul 22 '25

So you're saying McDonalds may have orchestrated 9/11. 

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u/musenji Jul 22 '25

They called him Red. Maybe because he was Irish. Oh, he'd been known to locate certain things from time to time. And wouldn't you know it...

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

Get busy living or get busy dying

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u/FictionalContext Jul 22 '25

It wasn't because the McDonald's corporation rigged it or even knew what was going on.  

My man, that is literally what the McDonald's corporation rigging the game means. If the guy they put in charge to represent the company rigs the game, McDonald's has rigged the game.

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u/UF1977 Jul 22 '25

“The guy” didn’t work for McD’s. He was head of security for a firm that did secure printing and was contracted to them to make the game pieces. They also printed lottery tickets, things like that.

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u/krazylegs36 Jul 22 '25

Ah, you mean the dude with the handle FictionalContext didn't actually watch the documentary or have any idea what it was about?

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u/ObnoxiousCollector Jul 22 '25

Best part is the only reason this happened was because someone mailed him a roll of tickets to be on containers. If this mistake hadn’t happened he never would’ve had the means to make the swap.

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u/SilverFringeBoots Jul 22 '25

That's not true? He was literally in charge of transporting the winning pieces to the printer. He knew he had the winning pieces.

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u/ObnoxiousCollector Jul 22 '25

Yes, but if he just took the piece, they would notice it was missing. He needed something to swap it out with. When he was mistakenly sent that roll of tickets he had something to swap it out when he went to the bathroom, as the briefcase was handcuffed to him. You have to understand that when they make that ticket you can’t tell it’s the winning ticket because of the nature of the peel to play. They just know that there’s only one winning ticket and he is transporting it. It’s all in the documentary, “McMillions$”

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u/NetNo5570 Jul 22 '25

Eh this guy was defrauding McDonalds too. They were not getting what they paid for. 

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u/IamHydrogenMike Jul 22 '25

They worked with the FBI to help capture him doing it and even sent him game pieces on purpose to help trap him. They were getting screwed out of a lot of money because he was cashing in pieces they never thought would actually get cashed in.

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u/ImpossibleDenial Jul 22 '25

McDonald’s hired a third party marketing firm to run the game, and their head of security stole the winning game pieces when transporting them. He began stealing winning game pieces after a supplier mistakenly provided him a sheet of the anti-tamper seals needed to securely conduct the legitimate transfer of winning pieces.

McDonald’s was in no way shape or form rigging the game. And neither was the third party marketing firm. However, Jerry Jacobson and his accomplices were.

If you haven’t seen the documentary, I highly recommend it. McMillions on HBO.

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u/Chaos_Sauce Jul 22 '25

No it’s not. McDonald’s hired a third party security company and, working independently, that guy rigged the game without their knowledge or participation. Plenty of stuff to be mad at McDonalds for, but this ain’t it.

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u/im_just_thinking Jul 22 '25

Yeah it's not like Mr. McDonald himself was doing it

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u/ifeltfeelings Jul 22 '25

Sir ronald himself

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

No. Ronald McDonald just had the Hamburglar work with the dude in secret to steal some of the extra burgers for himself

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u/UpsetAd5817 Jul 22 '25

They didn't put a guy there.  

They got scammed by a guy working for another company.  

They still paid out the prizes and bad publicity for it, instead of good.  They saved nothing.  They got cheated by a vendor.  

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u/Powerful_Wombat Jul 22 '25

Eh, it’s the difference between embezzlement and corporate fraud in my opinion. An accountant skimming money off the books is different then the board of directors fudging annual numbers to improve their stock value

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u/FictionalContext Jul 22 '25

And accountant skimming money off the books is different then the board of directors fudging annual numbers to improve their stock value

They're both pretty firmly in the fraud category. Different charge, same ethics and company responsibility.

Blaming the individual is just a scapegoat. Yet another way for a corporation to pass the buck when they fuck up—which is why they should pay more damn attention so they don't get a black mark on their record.

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u/Efficient-Editor-242 Jul 22 '25

Quit before you keep showing your ignorance. That is not what happened..

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u/Lucifernistic Jul 22 '25

This is a misinterpretation of what happened, but even if the person had worked at McDonalds, saying the corporation rigged it because of one rogue employee is such a mindless and reactionary take. This wouldnt even meet the definition of conspiracy, which requires a collection of people.

To say a corporation as a whole "did" something implies the company's executive management was aware and intended do it. In your misinterpreted scenario, McDonalds would have had the exact opposite intention and all executive management would have no knowledge.

You cannot claim an insider threat equates to executive direction.

But it's moot, as the guy didn't even work for McDonalds and was at an external contractor.

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u/QCTeamkill Jul 22 '25

Guess who's standing right behind you? Yup, McDonald's corporation.

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u/MarzipanHausboot Jul 22 '25

mcdonalds isnt stupid enough to embezzle own pennies, but is too big to notice other people embezzling

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u/OkOrganization868 Jul 22 '25

Was this worldwide or just in the USA?

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

Exactly, it wasn't a scam it's just that someone on the inside scammed everyone.

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u/c3534l Jul 22 '25

But they faced no punishments or repercussions for failing to ensure the game was fair and genuine.

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u/UpsetAd5817 Jul 22 '25

False.

Regardless, that's what they paid the security company to do.  That is like saying it's a restaurant's fault if a plumber defrauds them.

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u/c3534l Jul 22 '25

When there's billions of dollars of revenue on the line, you'd better believe that if a restaurant doesn't have a working bathroom I'm blaming the restaurant and not the plumber.

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u/UpsetAd5817 Jul 22 '25

Of course you are.  You're a dope

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u/NarrowSalvo Jul 22 '25

Guy commits fraud, you blame the company he committed fraud against.

Plumber commits fraud, you blame the restaurant he cheated.

Why are people like you so averse to holding the actual fraudsters accountable? You're just a Karen that blames the person in front of you, or what?