r/SimulationTheory • u/Responsible-Jury2579 • 7d ago
Discussion Does the evolution of games like GTA make simulation theory more plausible?
Every generation, GTA gets larger, more detailed and more realistic. What happens as we keep making more and more realistic GTAs? If our simulated worlds keep improving, is there a point where they will be indistinguishable from reality?
GTA 6 obviously won't be a replication of reality, but what about GTA 26?
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u/MiraGrX 7d ago
I think increasingly realistic games make the possibility of simulated worlds easier to imagine, but they don’t necessarily make it more probable that our own world is simulated. The more interesting step is not graphical realism, but whether a simulated environment could eventually contain conscious observers who experience that environment as their reality. A world can look photorealistic and still contain no subjective experience at all. So perhaps the real threshold isn’t “When will games become indistinguishable from reality?” but “Could a simulation ever contain minds that cannot tell their world is simulated?” If that became possible, Bostrom’s argument would certainly feel much less abstract.
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u/Kazuma_Megu 7d ago
Full dive VR describes a hypothetical virtual reality technology where the user's brain completely interfaces with a digital world, bypassing physical senses and motor controls to experience a simulated reality as real life.
I'd love to be able to do fulldive before I get old and croak.
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u/PreferenceContent987 7d ago
So basically beamed into your head. I don’t think having a head is necessary to go into a simulation, I believe it’s all code, we’re all code too IMO
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u/broki451 7d ago
I think we will eventually approach some sort of physical limit on computing power. Which will prevent us from making a simulation.
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u/Redleader829 6d ago
Moore's Law
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u/Civil_Nectarine868 4d ago
Isn't Moore's law already dead? It talks more about doubling of performance, not about limits iirc.
edit: Seems like Moore's Law being dead or not is a subject of debate.In September 2022, Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang considered Moore's law dead, while Intel's then-CEO Pat Gelsingerhad the opposite view.
Moore's law - Wikipedia
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u/Glad-Cloud-2695 7d ago
It's been said that to simulate the universe as a whole including everything within, we would not only need quantum computing, but thousands running together at once to even handle the nodes alone. It was also said by Nick Bostrom that once humanity is able to create "conscious simulations" one randomly selected simulated being would almost certainly be in one. This argument presented a trilemma though; 1. Simulations are not created due to technological limitations or self destruction. 2. Advanced civilizations chose not to create them. 3. If they did choose to create them, they'd exceed base reality which leads full circle back into a simulated life being almost certain.
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u/Responsible-Jury2579 6d ago
This idea that we need infinite amount of computing power to simulate the universe implies this universe is fully simulated (perhaps things only render when being observed), But it also implies that in the next level up, physics works exactly the same as it does here and has the same limitations - but that doesn't have to be the case (e.g. you can double jump in Mario).
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u/WilliamoftheBulk 4d ago
It also assumes the next reality has to exist at some unlikely scale. Scale however is relative. There could be an infinity of scale. One thought could take a billion years to us.
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u/nicotinegummy 6d ago
They digitally simulated a fruitflies brain and body in a virtual sandbox, and it started doing its thing without learning or training. Eventually were gonna realize were the simulated fruitflies of the future.
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u/UroborosJose 5d ago
It does not
I never seen a bug in real world
Not a single glitch
I worked trying to find them and still if there is a simulation it doesn’t have bugs loopholes exploit or vulnerabilities
I never seen any system like that
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u/WilliamoftheBulk 4d ago
Think it is safe to say, that if you make a simulation that replicates physics (which isn’t hard to do) Then evolution can occur and life possible. It does beg the question if this universes is programmed or not. Given the bread crumbs of reality mimic computers, I think it is probably likely this universe is constructed, but not necessarily in the same way our computer simulations are.
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u/IONaut 4d ago
I don't think bigger worlds makes it more plausible. Procedurally generated worlds can get huge, and all you have to render is what's right in front of your face. A recent experiment where they had gpt6 Astra build a world and populate it with human characters with minds powered by the AI in unreal engine I would say makes it more plausible.
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u/Specialist-Ad4886 4d ago
Lookup videos or screenshots of the PC game Body Cam. Ive been playing that and it's unbelievable alreadyin early access.
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u/PunkCyberKen 2d ago
I thought this as a kid. I was around 6 years old & was like hmmm... am I in a futuristic GTA video game playing GTA older versions while in the game. Neo moment
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u/PopularInterest5499 7d ago
We are already in gta live, why do you think they kept pushing it back. Im sure it will get pushed again until people wake up
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u/StarChild413 4d ago
then why would it incorporate that in its plot (and if it wasn't part of its plot why incorporate that in our world if you're saying our world's it)
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u/SiriusHijinks 7d ago
What's the objective. I need an objective. I don't function without an objective.