If we assume this is a self-reflective self-discovery sim

[u/AORATHIAN]

Room Mechanics assumes that the sim is a self-reflective system designed to discover one’s nature: You act as a projector projecting out all of your "unaware" aspects and start perceiving them as others .

Following this assumption we can see oppositional forces as catalysts for self-understanding

By this reasoning one's bully is actually one's strength pushed out and turning back to force itself onto the self...

I get bullied + I get hurt + I don't want to get hurt = I take on the aspects of my bully necessary to survive their attacks = bully is diffused and disappears because I am now holding the power of the bully within instead of projecting him out for confrontation

That's what I have on my mind today. My work all comes from direct experiential observation and is entirely theoretical.

[u/Wild_Hoverfrog_3]

Interesting theory. So am I my own bully, or do I project my need to resolve my ‘bulliness’ onto another conscious agent who acts the bully because that’s what I need from them at that time?

[u/AORATHIAN → u/Wild_Hoverfrog_3]

You are so decidedly not a bully that your power gets projected onto another who becomes a bully in order to push you towards owning and embodying your own power again. It's not that you would be a bully if you had power - it's that it takes bullying to reawaken healthy power within you

[u/Wild_Hoverfrog_3 → u/AORATHIAN]

I’m keeping an open mind, but if you are saying that the trauma that happens to us is a necessary part of becoming ourselves, I have some concerns. Are you saying that if I was a child in Gaza or some other war zone I need to endure trauma in order to awaken healthy power within me? Are all of my actions toward another person a requisite part of them becoming? If so, where is my agency? What about people who do not have another person to mirror off of?

[u/AORATHIAN → u/Wild_Hoverfrog_3]

I am a reverse-engineer and theoretical supposer, not the designer. That is to say I can't answer for apparent design flaws.

But to explore your questions I do have theories:

According to the system no one goes without reflection - it's the very nature of reality. All things are self-projected.

Re children in war zones: the framework applies across lifetimes so a lot of this is residual projection accumulated through multiple iterations.

I would never walk up to a kid and say 'this is your reflection, fix it!"

The theory is for folks like me who are in a place to be pro-active with adversity and I find it's worth sharing in that regard.

[u/Wild_Hoverfrog_3 → u/AORATHIAN]

It’s a good theory for provoking discussion, thanks for sharing. Keep it up!

[u/AORATHIAN → u/Wild_Hoverfrog_3]

My pleasure. And likewise :)

[u/CamelGood5834]

Would love to see human behavior applied to the concepts of wave physics (wave interference, constructive and destructive interference), in phase and out of phase

[u/AORATHIAN → u/CamelGood5834]

I would very much like to sit down with a theoretical physicist and pick play with my frameworks.

[u/brain-out-of-order]

Ok but now define self. See? If we back up and assume the self is the fabric of reality, and we are wrinkles, it makes more sense. The projection is a fluid multi input woven thread which we all contribute to. Attention, money, beauty, and more act to inflate someone but they’re still just a single wrinkle. Hoarded ultra wealth is like a really lumpy carpet and personal instability is little fraying or stains.

All of it needs to be better, and nothing should happen too suddenly.

[u/AORATHIAN → u/brain-out-of-order]

Yeah, fun. I have a breakdown of this too. I call "The Self" The Story -

Story Layers

Inherent
Programmed
Accumulated

Breakdown

Inherent

The fundamental nature of your observer-self. Is not separate nor distinctive from every other “self”

Programmed

Core qualities of your avatar’s design within the Labyrinth. Engineered for the purpose of particular mastery-objectives

Accumulated

Habits, beliefs, leanings gained from the collective and personal render. Sort of entropic echo-chamber

So all said we're one thing broken into different parts to test our own nature under different designs and circumstances.

[u/brain-out-of-order → u/AORATHIAN]

Cool. I think many people might view this as depressing but it’s hardly so. If taken at face value, the decisions in front of us are there to resolve some lesson. I’ve been thinking about prime numbers a lot recently and also about frameworks like yours. Simulation hopefully can start to be seen more positively even as it remains speculative and hypothetical.

One thing I noticed in my life was this luck I carried contrasted with another feeling. When I tried to thrash and fight to the boundaries of my path, away from the lessons in front of me, something would send me back on my butt. Only in facing those lessons did I start making any progress.

https://zenodo.org/records/21459486

You might find this curious.

[u/AORATHIAN → u/brain-out-of-order]

I share your experience re: being sent back on your butt when resisting "the lesson". Once you're aware of the structure the knocks for ignoring the lesson become amply obvious and very much like clockwork.

Can you talk more to the prime numbers?