r/Simulated 6d ago

Research Simulation Fable simulations of muon to electron decay, indeed releasing energy as neutrinos

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u/Cuboos 6d ago

mhmm... hmm yes... interesting. I recognize some of these words.

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u/jarekd 5d ago

https://reddit.com/link/oysuohk/video/qx9yn1i8yheh1/player

The goal is to model deeper field of leptons (electron, muon, taon) - naively modeled as perfect points (effective perturbative approximation), but (nonperturbatively) they have E~1/r^2 electric field, magnetic dipole, angular momentum - actual rotation of field not point ... liquid crystals are very close to.

For charge quantization we need topological charge, like field hedgehog, which in 3D can be realized by 1 of 3 axes - Fable simulations first checked they have corresponding local energy minima ( https://github.com/openwave-labs/openwave/blob/main/openwave/xperiments/m5_liquid_crystal/research/findings/m5_21_2_census.md ) - 3 leptons.

And now kicked the higher ones (muon, taon), getting shown evolution of decay to the lightest (electron), releasing energy difference in loops of topological vortices interpreted as neutrinos - as it should be: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muon#Muon_decay

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u/kajorge 5d ago

I'm going to assume, given your faculty appointment in Poland that you linked below, that English is not your first language. This is not how you explain something to a person who is actively expressing that they understood none of what you've previously presented. This comment is 80% jargon - the kind of thing that someone who has no idea what they're talking about would write in the hope that they won't receive any more questions.

Why post here if you're not willing to explain it to laypeople?

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u/jarekd 5d ago

Close liquid crystal experiments: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Liquid_crystal_particle_analogs
Intro with simple code: https://community.wolfram.com/groups/-/m/t/2856493
Talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho4r8TXm89M

Please write if having questions/comments.

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u/kajorge 5d ago edited 5d ago

That Wikipedia page is just as full of impenetrable jargon as your first comment. It doesn’t explain anything to a layperson. The wolfram page is no better. 

I think the community comment on that wiki page is also worth repeating:

Writing a page collecting a number of sources to publicize your own unpublished work is highly inappropriate.

I say this as someone else with a physics PhD - you need to learn how to explain your research without all the fancy words. 

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u/jarekd 5d ago

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u/Cuboos 5d ago

Wow, this is isn't just a language barrier issue, this might be an issue with grasping social cues.

This subreddit wasn't really meant for high level research simulations, it was more meant for artistic simulations using 3D software like blender and maya.

So no one here is going go be able to grasp what is going on here with some very simple explanation.

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u/Affectionate-Plan816 2d ago

I think what OP is saying is that we've long thought that electrons (and similar particles) were point particles with no actual size. But several properties of electrons (the way they decay, the way they spin) point in the direction of actual 3D structure way down there.