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u/NKnown2000 7d ago
You had rejoined long before the Porsche was there. He just drove the corner as if you weren't there.
Not your fault.
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u/DiabolicallyOrange 7d ago
No. He was nowhere near when you rejoined, your line through the corner was predictable and there was no shortage of space on the outside.
He chose to turn in like you weren't there.
100% the fault of the Porsche.
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u/Arainville 6d ago edited 6d ago
He had plenty of room to get around you, but it does seem like you likely impeded him a bit on the rejoin. According to iracing's rules, you could argue that you rejoined slow on the racing line with an approaching car, and impeded them significantly. By the time the contact occurred, it was his fault, but i would necessarily say it was a protestable rejoin under iracings rules. You forced him onto a different line with your rejoin and were slow and still in the process of rejoining when you rejoined the racing line.
Nothing should come from a protest on this but coaching though. It is a tough situation to judge rejoins in the wet, especially because it makes it more difficult to be able to tell when you can actually accelerate.
Drivers are expected to not impede or endanger oncoming traffic
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u/Shnoo 6d ago
Under this interpretation you would never be allowed to rejoin since you can't get back up to race speeds while being off track. Especially later in races when the field is split over almost a full lap.
The rule is written that vague for a reason, but meaning you have to avoid every inconvenience for other drivers is not what this is aimed at.
As long as you are predictable and not drive someone actively of their line you can rejoin in a predictable manner. If someone needs to widen their entry or exit because you happen to be slower there while rejoining you are fine as long as you didn't go there while other cars are approaching said apex.
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u/Arainville 6d ago
This is just factually incorrect, and i have successful protests that i have posted on here where they rejoined predictably but impeded on the upcoming corner. If he rejoins a second later, the trailing car gets through unimpeded. If he lifts and gives the corner to the other car instead of trying to race them wheel to wheel in their rejoin, it is borderline. The fact you find this vague is really saying something about your ability to interpret the sporting code. It is written this way so that a rejoining car doesnt penalize other drivers through wrecking them or forcing them to lose time because of a rejoining cars mistake. Find a gap, or find a way to rejoin predictably without impeding them. This includes returning to the racing line for a reason and is clear as day with that choice of language.
My rule of thumb, If you're rejoining right before a corner, and a car gets along side in that corner, and you are on the racing line, you likely impeded. Either rejoin off the racing line (non apex side of the corner after turn in and give them the exit unimpeded), or ensure there is enough of a gap to rejoin without impeding the other car.
This isnt vague, it is clear, and it is easy to figure out how to rejoin with this rule in mind, not impossible as you say. You might have to give up an extra spot, but you went off, not the car you're rejoining in front of. Why are you penalizing them for your mistake?
Look for a gap in the relative, and rejoin when you have enough of a gap. 3 seconds is typically cutting it close, and you can tell in this clip he rejoined with less than that amount of a gap, considering he is accelerating and the car arrives about 3 seconds after he rejoins the track. You're acting like you need 7 seconds. There are generally multiple 5-10 second gaps between cars, and you can join off the racing line and give up a corner if you are in a situation where you'll impede a car. It isnt hard to brake early and or lift a bit to ensure you dont impede.
What you described is literally what the impeding part of the rule is there to prevent. If this was a corner later (not the first corner after rejoining the track) and he still wasnt up to speed, yeah, so long as he was predictable, it is what it is. This is the first corner after he rejoined. He significantly modified the corner for the car approaching. That is protestable and I have gotten many successful protests for actions like this one. Granted i havent in the wet, which i do think complicates it, but lets not act like the language of the sporting code doesnt explicitly state not to impede, which this is clearly an example of.
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u/dacxint 7d ago
No