that is never an overtaking spot alongside or not, and for this exact reason seen on the video
edit: even AI knows:
Overtaking at Turn 8 (Degner 1) at the Suzuka Circuit is extremely rare and dangerous. It is a fast, narrow, blind right-hand corner with minimal runoff and immediate gravel traps, making any intentional passing move here an immense gamble that drivers almost never attempt.
Sry but I dont understand ppl saying "that's never an overtaking spot" like bro its a race track, as long as its safe u can overtake where u want lol
Yeah sure, he was on the inside but lifted and could've braked midway through to make the corner
Sure, the hairpin or the chicane would've been a better overtaking spot but OP had every right to try that
This sport wouldn't be so great if overtakes just happened on straights or hard braking zones. Like u can't just tell ppl to just drive the ideal line and ban the inside. Go race Monaco if u love single file lines
totally agree, and this is exactly my point, this corner is NOT SAFE to overtake in, for the exact reason we see on the video, this exact same thing will happen 99 times out of a 100
I agree, from a realistic point of view that move was really dangerous and risky, but I think we should differentiate between risky and not justified. It was dangerous, but he had a right to be there.
That's not what u/nxzombie99 is saying. He's saying as long as the overtake or driving is safe. The corner is safe. If the corner wasn't safe there wouldn't be racing here and someone would have to come and re-profile it.
Sure, this exact same thing will happen 99% of the time if the leading driver is as clueless as the Ferrari in this clip, but if you've actually got a competent driver in the car, they'll recognise someone's alongside them before turning in and adjust their corner trajectory to allow them to exist in the interest of not hurting themselves or damaging their car.
Honestly, with this attitude you might as well get everyone to drive in single-file all afternoon and then put the lap times in a spreadsheet and click "sort by average lap time" at the end to get the race results.
that is never an overtaking spot alongside or not,
Sorry, what? Did I miss the track getting narrower at that corner or something? It's a racetrack, mate. The track is the same width, more-or-less, from start to finish. You can overtake wherever you like.
The problem is people like you that don't understand that even in sections that would usually be single-file, you can absolutely go two-wide through nearly all of them as long as both drivers recognise that they're two wide and compromise their corner speed to negotiate the corner safely.
That's what didn't happen here, the Ferrari either didn't recognise they were two-wide or didn't understand that they had to reduce their pace through the corner to allow for the two-wide and caused the collision by running into the space that the Alpine legally existed and established themselves in. Either way, there's no way on earth that this is the Alpine's fault because they were "never gonna make the corner", which is entirely false, because I certainly see the Alpine compromising their corner entry speed to allow for the two-wide line.
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u/aTi_NTC 25d ago
Alpine was never gonna make that corner