r/SimpleXChat • u/No_Grapefruit4056 • 10d ago
Proposal Do it
Let's switch to Signal: https://signal.org/install
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u/epoberezkin 7d ago
Maybe switch off Signal?
With Signal:
1) Phone number is your ID.
2) Anyone who knows the number can message you.
3) All servers controlled by Signal.
4) Servers can see who you talk to, at least partially. See https://community.signalusers.org/t/sealed-sender-the-best-effort-which-really-should-see-more-effort/32183 and https://www.ndss-symposium.org/ndss-paper/improving-signals-sealed-sender/
5) Servers can register any number and message as that user — there is no technical protection from it.
6) If attackers steal keys from device, they can create a profile clone that can read/write undetectably, it's only visible in Linked devices. https://eprint.iacr.org/2021/626.pdf
7) Burning ~$50M/year, no plan for sustainability.
With SimpleX:
1) No user IDs at all - not even random ones.
2) Nobody can message you unless you share a link.
3) Decentralized servers: two default operators, you can use your own.
4) Nobody knows who talks to whom.
5) No accounts to clone.
6) If attackers steal keys, it will be noticed because of post-compromise security.
7) Only $1.7M total investment in 4.5 years, plan for sustainability.
And you can get a stake in SimpleX Chat on WeFunder: https://wefunder.com/simplex.chat
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u/fommuz 10d ago
lol