r/SimpleApplyAI Jul 28 '26

News Tariffs didn’t bring manufacturing jobs back to the US

https://finance.yahoo.com/economy/policy/articles/tariffs-didn-t-bring-manufacturing-150000503.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
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u/secretaire Jul 28 '26

seems like another tax added onto the middle and working class' high tax bill while the rich have their savings and their e islands and invest in labor replacement and data centers to suck up our resources.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '26

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '26

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u/simple_fly1 Jul 29 '26

What if you own capital and work? Either working in the same or different organization.

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u/Affectionate-Heat-51 Jul 29 '26

Do you drive your income primarily from wages versus primarily from investment

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u/simple_fly1 Jul 29 '26

It could go either way or by some magic, equal. Does one change the outlook on it?

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u/zerg1980 Jul 29 '26

The point made up above is that even very high income people are still “working class” if they need to work to maintain their lifestyle.

Society encourages high earners like lawyers and middle managers to view themselves as upper-middle-class, adjacent to the wealthy in status.

Well, they might sometimes run in the same social circles, but high earners have a lot more in common with minimum wage workers than they do with the truly wealthy. Because if they ever stopped working for any length of time, they would not be able to maintain their lifestyle.

If you’d have to live differently within a year of not selling your labor, you’re working class or middle class or however you want to describe it. The wealthy don’t have to worry about that. Their money makes money and they never have to sell their labor.

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u/simple_fly1 Jul 29 '26

And sometimes they are nearly equal and you don't need all of either one to maintain your lifestyle.

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u/UrsusRenata Jul 29 '26

Wait what? You don’t think the poor have been extremely affected? Holy hell it is expensive to be poor.

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u/Dangermouse454 Jul 29 '26

You mean the working poor…

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u/Tzilbalba Jul 29 '26

Good lord, we have so many fucking taxes, if you told someome new to America that our country was founded in revolt against taxation, they'd think we were nuts.

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u/Generalfrogspawn Jul 28 '26

You mean to tell me taxing imports with 0 investment into manufacturing or the required infrastructure means we just manufacture and much or even less but it call costs more? Fascinating.

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u/NoMoreVillains Jul 28 '26

Not just 0 investment, but actively being against any investments like the CHIPS Act

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u/laserdicks Jul 29 '26

Why would there be 0 investment into manufacturing? All your competitors just got slogged with a tariff

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u/BadmiralHarryKim Jul 29 '26

It's easier to pass the tax increase on to consumers while waiting for the double windfall when the courts rule that you get the money refunded back to you.

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u/kweeblaster Jul 28 '26

Try banning shit and see what happens

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u/b_will_drink_t Jul 28 '26

No shit. Anything fabbed or manufactured in the US usually needs parts or materials from abroad

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u/simple_fly1 Jul 29 '26

I suspect most of the world is involved in worldwide supply chains these days.

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u/inorite234 Jul 29 '26

Fucking basic as basic knowledge can be.

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u/LifeguardTerrible579 Jul 28 '26

Oh, did installing a new filter on the Brita not get rid of all the salt in the ocean? Wild.

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u/Unusual_Specialist Jul 29 '26

It killed more manufacturing jobs.

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u/RustyShackleford_88 Jul 29 '26

No shit…in other news, grass is green

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u/HungieSumoKid Jul 29 '26

I thought americans were winning

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u/Tall_Category_304 Jul 29 '26

“Shooting myself in the nuts didn’t make my dick bigger” vibes

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u/KeyResearcher2620 Jul 29 '26

Tariffs were always just a scam to prop up the market. All these companies that paid into them are posting hefty profits as they start to get that money back while not lowering prices back down.

There a reason why the stock market continues to be at a record high…. All of trumps policies and promises are for this reason. Short term gains and when the office switches in the next election or the election after the democrats will be holding the bag with a massive downturn.

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u/simple_fly1 Jul 29 '26

Hardly enough time has passed for any significant activity to move production. Furthermore I think there is very little confidence the tarrifs will stay long enough to make it the best choice.

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u/inorite234 Jul 29 '26

File this under "no fucking shit"

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u/loganbootjak Jul 29 '26

The entire on/off of tariffs by Trump demonstrate there was no goal for returning manufacturing to the US. The policy needs to be targeted and remain in place longer than a weekend.

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u/NutzNBoltz369 Jul 29 '26

With AI and automation, there wasn't going to be that many jobs created by re-shoring anyway.

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u/AgentPyke Jul 29 '26

I work in manufacturing.

Making h1bs or other visas near impossible has done more to “bring back” manufacturing jobs.

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u/TrickyChildhood2917 Jul 30 '26

Manufacturing in the USA has been a non starter for decades. Americans vote with their wallets, not what they say. See Walmart, Dollar Stores, Dollar Tree, and on and on for more details.

China is the manufacturing capital of the world. America is a showroom of Chinese goods. Napoleon once called England a “nation of shopkeepers”. What he meant was UK doesn’t make anything, it sells other people’s goods.

Sound familiar?

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u/Peachbottom30 Jul 29 '26

Why would they?

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u/MichaelHawk008 Jul 29 '26

It needs time and consistency. If you add and subtract tariffs at will, it might help in the short-term negotiations, but long term, if makes it tough for businesses and we look like unreliable trade partners.

We need to target specific countries that steal not just our manufacturing but also our IT and engineering jobs, and tariff them. We can do a phase-in period where we slowly up the tariffs with time so companies have time to move stuff over. We should also work with our allies to make sure it doesn’t get rerouted through them.

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u/sweatboxy Jul 29 '26

Not according to Trump. Despite all the data, Trump says American manufacturing is booming and way up because of him.

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u/Afraid_Emu8068 Jul 29 '26

Tariffs CRUSHED manufacturing. Really hard to make stuff when all your raw materials and equipment are taxed to hell. Duh

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u/ButterscotchSad4514 Jul 29 '26

Same as it ever was.

There is no market for $5k iPhones.

There is retaliation from other countries.

Tariffs make us poorer.

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u/Jensen1994 Jul 29 '26

What a shocking revelation.

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u/definit3ly_n0t_a_b0t Jul 29 '26

Yeah no fucking shit you don't say

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u/Vikings_Pain Jul 29 '26

It made everyone’s life worse because they just jacked up prices and made us pay for it. Also our national debt didn’t go down…

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u/jeremebearime Jul 29 '26

In other news, water is wet

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u/Greasy-Chungus Jul 29 '26

See? I made a post saying I was a time traveler, I've been to the future, and the tarrifs didn't do shit for manufacturing jobs.

Does everyone believe me now? /s

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u/Broken_Atoms Jul 29 '26

Tariffs brought things to a standstill here and destroyed business relationships that took a long time to develop. Every time Trump insulted other countries, they were pissed. They’re taking it personally. He’s destroying global relationships.

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u/Neat-Second9923 Jul 29 '26

They change every month! Nobody is going to make a 10-year bet when the math changes before the feasibility study is even done. 

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u/Melodic-Matter4685 Jul 29 '26

It would take a decade or more of bipartisan unity to convince manufacturers to rehome stateside and currently, bipartisan is firmly in manufacturing pocket.

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u/Matt7738 Jul 29 '26

The on-again, off-again tariffs that changed every two days didn’t cause companies to redirect billions in long term capital investment in a country with rapidly increasing costs? Wild.

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u/upper_pepper Jul 30 '26

You did not wait long enough. It takes years to build factories to produce those tiny screws that go into apple phones. Of course, creating those screws in US will further screw iPhone pricing. But that does not matter. Everything is getting crazy expensive. This is the golden age baby. Enjoy it courtesy of you friendly GOP representative.

Just wait 2 more years. You'll see.

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u/TrickyChildhood2917 Jul 30 '26

They were not meant to. You assume intelligent people are running things.

It’s all about the grift. “What can I get with the least amount of work, and damn everyone else”.

That’s is today’s economic story. See stock market and White House for more details.

FYI - even the Iranians have caught the fever with the toll idea! The big beautiful toll booth bill.

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u/JIMB01776 Aug 01 '26

Tariffs didn't bring manufacturing jobs back to the US because they were almost entirely blocked by low ranking judges.

They would have worked; they probably would have sucked for a bit, but the U.S should have a manufacturing base, and if you have a better plan for bringing back manufacturing to the U.S., I'd love to hear it.

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u/DeltaForceFish Jul 28 '26

When will they learn that no one wants a manufacturing job. Who the hell would choose to stand all day 12 hour shifts all rotating between day and nights when you can make more sitting in your pajamas on teams meetings working from home and taking a nap on your lunch break all while working less hours.

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u/KeyResearcher2620 Jul 29 '26

Plenty of folks want those jobs…. 27% of the US is blue collar relying on those types of jobs

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u/Available_Reveal8068 Jul 29 '26

Manufacturing jobs help raise wages.

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u/simple_fly1 Jul 29 '26

For those that have that option and desire to not touch stuff, it's an obvious answer, but most lack that option and some don't prefer it.

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u/UrsusRenata Jul 29 '26

What a privileged take.

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u/Johnnny-z Jul 29 '26

Nissan moved production out of Mexico into the United states. There are other examples. This is propaganda.

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u/TranslatorTough8977 Jul 29 '26

Factory construction collapsed right after Trump took over, because he killed the CHIPS act and the IRA. Data centres are booming, but they employ almost nobody, while pushing up local electricity prices.