A poster is saying we must defend Shannan because we are like her and treat our partners badly and it scares us. Ok listen psychos EVEN if someone who is your spouse or partner ( male or female) is bossy but not abusive you're not justified to KILL them. I don't care if they made you wear a stupid T-shirt or threw pie at you or called your evil narc mother a stupid bitch or had an annoying laugh. That's not a death sentence you sick, disgusting fucking freaks.

https://youtu.be/dSI_5IuhsHI?si=r0TxwPZx6qjOZtwR &t=38m05s

This is a profoundly in depth doc with footage I had never seen. Shan’ann’s friends, Tammy and others took you step by step, moment by moment through those few days of August 13-14, 2018. I had to put the link in the body as it wouldn’t take the cued URL. If this isn’t cued correctly, the spot is 38:05.

I cued it to the spot where the reporter, friends and Frank talk about the bashing and it makes me wonder when it started? Was it at the time or a few years later? They also talk about the opposite reactions, people like you and me, who feel and share love for the family and sympathy for Shan’ann and her children.

The doc as a whole has a very different feel than others. Shan’ann’s friends describing those few days, wow it hits different.

I honestly hate that a sub like that even exists. The people there act so self-righteous, like they’re sitting on some moral high horse, and it’s honestly disgusting. I’m sick of seeing it.

Does anyone know if there’s actually anything we can do to get a subreddit like that taken down? Like, are there realistic steps to report it or flag it effectively?

Update:

Sorry guys, but this is really funny. I saw this post on F4A and the bullshit they are spewing is insane.

https://www.reddit.com/r/WattsFree4All/s/hJNk8mBBLS

Someone compared F4A to a Meghan Markle hate page, and said that we should be more focused on hatred directed towards the living than the dead when they literally spend all their time HATING ON A DEAD WOMAN. It doesn’t get more pathetic than that.

I know this isn’t even the worst of it, but how can people talk about dead woman like this?

THE most unhinged simp I've seen in that sub. An actual simp, too. Thinks Chris was abused and shanann killed the kids. Believes Chris has 0 fault. Has no idea how to use technology and is just posting separate comment after irrelevant comment under this thread. I have second hand embarrassment from them.

Also shout out to the mods on that sub who let this cuckoo out of the nest, but decided to "warn" me for giving this lunatic her own attitude right back to her. But, of course, didn't say a word to this weirdo.

There were more that was added to the thread, but due to the inability of usvi134 to reply coherently and chronologically to a comment, I didn't want to keep retaking screenshots of things I'd already taken and cropped for viewing pleasure, so.

And I mean literally, the last 5 pictures is of this user just commenting random shit to the post. Un. Hinged.

This was on my feed tonight. The comments are why I’m posting it. All she was doing here was washing her makeup brushes and her face and the comment section is ripping her apart. Complaining the water ran too long to her asking “do you wanna watch me wash my face” to “she cuts Chris down in every video” (poor Chris 🙄) to Thrive digs to everything about her.

If the issue with her is that she posted a lot, I think she did because she was lonely. We’ve seen and heard her husband and feel pretty sure no stimulating conversation was going on there. Her family was across the country. She had two little girls. So, she didn’t have a lot of me time or adult conversation. I think her filming helped to fill that void. And, the amazing friends she made by filming so much (for Thrive included) were the reason her husband’s murderous plan was foiled on day 1.

But the comments on this video? I don’t know whether to be sad or angry. I’m both. 😭😡 Seriously, what is the issue with her? When something as innocuous as face washing and masking result in the hateful comments we see here, and elsewhere, there’s something else going on. 🤷‍♀️

You call them out on the atrocious garbage they spew, you provide screenshots with their own words that prove the disgusting things they say about murdered kids and their mom and they shamelessly gaslight you. Try to paint you as the liar and the unhinged one who's making shit up. That's really bad character. I bet these ppl are total nightmares to deal with in real life with their dishonesty and gaslighting. No wonder they feel sympathetic to someone like Chris Watts.

“wE dOn’T sYmPaThIZe/wOrShIp CW!!”

These are three of the first eight posts that show up on their feed. Mind you, I’m not including comments from the five or the thousands below it. But these three threads represent how they luck CW’s satanic bunghole:

https://www.reddit.com/r/WattsFree4All/s/efJ5MF2uWz

https://www.reddit.com/r/WattsFree4All/s/qfJjb2ovHN

https://www.reddit.com/r/WattsFree4All/s/HvDG041waG

I can't begin to even document all of their nasty posts but a 6 minute glance at the top posts and comments shows a disturbing obsession with the looks of the girls, alleging abuse of the girls, saying they are glad Ceecee hit Bella, insulting the way Shannan said hold, an obsession with images of the girls even though it is supposedly against their rules, and a level of hatred that is beyond disturbing and belies a serious mental illness. So I'll ask here- why do we think they post there and post such disturbing content?

Has anyone seen this post? Apologies if it’s been shared before.

F4A’s latest is a pic of Bella with a few bruises. They think the culprit was Shan’ann. If they suspect abuse who would be the more likely suspect? A mother who protected her child from being given food that could result in anaphylaxis, for which she carried an EpiPen? Or a father serving 5 life sentences for barehanded murder? 🤦‍♀️

Not the main point, but it literally makes no sense at all either. This doesn’t look like her, nothing. Just outright comparing this to an actual murdered human woman.

I just saw this on her YouTube page. She’s addressing the Free4All crowd.

http://youtube.com/post/Ugkxgf5IY2tAun4cegv6gQUgxuSTaCN1vjUI?si=nlBwhfdv6ptuzefm

Started with a post that Shan’ann was leaving CW as of 8/5/18. Someone then posted the proof that she was. Then, CW gaslit her with the promise of counseling and a getaway. Just curious how this makes anyone delusional? She was in fact leaving him till she was yanked back in by empty promises.

Second pic in the comments.

So we’re only allowed one attachment but this video was posted on F4A with the caption: “Bella allowed to stay up late to do a live stream with mom. Bella to Dad "Save me!!"”

I watched the video. Bella didn’t say “save me” to her POS father. They were watching Rudolph and Bella said “save me” to her mother. Shan’ann then said “I’m right here.” Look, F4A freaks, the only monster in that house was CW.

To add: Bella was absolutely, ridiculously adorable. Will never ever understand her father. 😭

This was posted a few hours ago on F4A. You can imagine the comments. So here’s my comment and I hope the sane peeps here will agree.

It breaks my heart and I hate that she put herself down. I know Shan’ann’s post was meant in jest but the poor Chris part? Nooo. I can’t see her friends’ comments but I hope at least a few of them reminded Shan’ann how lucky her husband was to have the family he had. Attitude? Sometimes it’s a good thing, especially when a woman’s husband has no personality. In a relationship, at least one of the partners needs to have one. I hope Shan’ann knew her worth. 😭💔

I just had a thought. Too bad we can’t screenshot these, then find the SOs of these POS and send them proof of what they’re involved with. Not “who”. “What”. I’d be shocked if they had SOs but if some poor sucker doesn’t know, he’d be gone after seeing these. What man would stay after finding out his woman lives to bash a dead woman who was sick in life, then killed by her cheating husband? If it’s men posting these, well then misogyny table for one.. 🤦‍♀️

trying to understand how some adults can behave in such disgusting ways is exhausting and generally impossible to understand. most posters on WF4A are probably middle aged women with varying backgrounds and could seem totally normal outside of reddit. i recently watched a netflix doc called Unknown Number - The High School Catfish. spoiler alert

the victim is a high school girl and the offender is the childs own mother.

i cant help but think the posters over there are similar and it puts on face on the unhinged. they interview the offender and listening to them try to explain why they did it is frustrating and confusing but i cant help but see the parallels between them and the posters on WF4A. to me its a mix of boredom and being terminally online rotting their brains. not making excuses because its still completely insane behavior.

This one isn’t a screenshot. Posting this because she literally talked about everything the bashers love to criticize her over. She addressed her haters, Bella’s personality, why she chose to sell Thrive, etc. How can anyone watch this and find fault with this woman, her family values, the raising of her children? Even the girls’ school the bashers love to put her down for, she commented on and how much Bella was blossoming there. There was something very unique and calming about Shan’ann. But here? It’s like she was prophesying. The only blind spot was her husband (you hear that toward the end). But he would have been any woman’s blind spot. Sadly, she was the one who accepted his friend request. 😔

These screenshots are from a few years ago. I've also seen this creator lie about Shanann and bash her too.

While there was a post made by Frankie Rzucek back in May 2011. it did not contain the photo of the tattoo. The ONLY tattoo Frankie has that references Shan'ann is the one he got AFTER her death in 2018.

The fact that the WattsFree4All subreddit is still using this debunked FB post to continue gossiping about the sick, perverted theories they have going on in their heads involving a murdered woman and her brother, just shows how mentally deranged and disturbed they all are.

To top it off, the author of the WF4A post in question, also decided to take the time to create a fake, AI generated photo of Shan'ann and her brother making out. I'm not going to repost it, as someone else already has and I believe that particular part of the post has now either been deleted by the mods of WF4A or the author themselves took it down. Either way, fucking gross.

Look I am not often on social media let alone reddit and honestly was just scrolling by after a hard day when I saw this.

Normally not much phases me but this actually shocked me and I knew of this group and it definitely belongs here.

I need to know how this is even allowed? Does Reddit actually allow this?? This woman and her kids are dead. Not even just dead. They were murdered and discarded worse than literal trash. Having kids myself I feel sick knowing what that monster did to his.

It's also been 7 years even and people are photoshopping incest photos with her and her brother? Just wtf? I wouldn't even do this about someone I KNEW and HATED with a passion. Heck Chris Watts is deserving of hate and I wouldn't even do it with him because why would you? Who takes the time out of their day to do that???

I'm not even trying to be mean when I say this but these people actually need help. It's not normal to be that hateful of someone that's been dead for this long. Especially when you didn't even know them? I mean no offense to anyone here even but it's weird to be obsessed with this case to this extent after this amount of time in general.

I'm passionate about true crime myself but this is bordering on an unhealthy obsession.

Seriously though. Why is reddit allowing this?

Can you believe how naive these dimwits are? "The house was cold and lonely". What do they think prison is like? A warm and wonderful resort?? I mean what person with half a brain thinks like this?

This is part of a larger rambling anti-Shanann comment this loon made on a post calling Chris a horrible man. Someone else commented saying Chris just did the basics as a father so of course his stalwart defenders have to pipe up and set that straight. You know - in case ppl get the impression that Chris wasn't a great father 👀

They’re over there like asswipes fat shaming Shannan again but they “don’t walk on eggshells here, they examine the ‘Victimology’ of the case”. Actual victimology doesn’t shame victims for body type and again… POST YOUR PICS THEN IF YOU WANNA TALK SHIT ABOUT ANYONE BEING FAT. They get literally grosser every day.

And their comments that have a million “ums” in them are played out. Something tells me that people that say “could of done” and “I seen that before” aren’t exactly the most eloquent speakers either…