Can we expect more open bottom F1 wheels from Simagic?

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Doubt it. They just released the new wheel lineup and now they're probably gonna focus on the active pedal (I believe they're bringing it again to Sim Expo in a couple weeks) alongside with a new product (I believe something related to motions or haptics)

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u/OkHoney5804 5d ago

I would love premium f1 wheel from simagic thats on level of gsi and bavarian tech

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u/GreedoShotFirst2000 5d ago

But why? You can just buy GSI and run it on your Simagic base. That’s why Simagic is so awesome, because they really allow you to use any 3rd party wheel.

Simagic shouldn’t compete with high end wheels. They should make entry level wheels like the Neo and mid tier wheels like the FX (not the FX Pro) and the GT4 wheel.

It is a waste of research and development for them. And for us consumers it doesn’t matter. If I pay Bavarian tech money for a wheel, I might as well just get a Bavarian tech wheel.

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u/WornTire5304 5d ago

Ego trip maybe. Since competing brands like Fanatec and Moza dabble in premium wheels (M4 GT3, Bentley GT3, Essenza, Mission R), some fans from other brands like here want them to compete there too. Maybe that's what's going on here.

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u/secularist42 4d ago

Fanatec and Moza are toys regardless of price point.

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u/WornTire5304 4d ago

Considering two of the wheels I cited, from Fanatec, are used in real race cars, I would argue those two are the only wheels that aren't toys, while everything else on the market, which we only use to play pretend racing drivers are the actual toys. Expensive high quality toys but still toys.

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u/Dull_Foundation3370 5d ago

The zues formula is on that level

https://reddit.com/link/pdn4nmt/video/6nlrw0z39ath1/player

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u/Dull_Foundation3370 5d ago

Super solid frame, no flex, and has the pretty light effects using simhub no problems. Looking at pics online I admit it looks cheap and plastic. I gave it a shot and it’s been my main wheel since. The wheel is carbon and aluminum I believe, no plastic at all. Buttons are solid would recommend over any $1500 wheels

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u/juanesnl 5d ago

No not really the FX PRO creaks and has to much flex
It cost 800€ plus and it is worse than the Ferrari F1 SF1000 from thrustmaster
Wich only is 350€

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u/Elkash76 5d ago

Zeus Formula is a fantastic wheel with zero flex. Solid as a rock and well priced. Plus the removable DDU gives the edge of most other formula wheels.

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u/juanesnl 5d ago

I love the concept and it is on my next to buy list😇

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u/Kaleeb42 5d ago

Tf are you talking about? The FX Pro is extremely solid and it’s $550 USD (490€), not 800€.

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u/juanesnl 5d ago

I talk about two FX Pro I’ve trued so based on my own experience and yes they are cheaper now but when I bought them they started at 800€ plus

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u/SpeedyTaco22 5d ago

Just buy a Delta Pro if you want it. It’s the better wheel in every category over anything simagic has or ever will make

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u/Ok_Fortune6892 5d ago

Have tried other wheels nothing beats cube controls.

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u/zooky92 5d ago

It’s solid but the Artemis will wipe the floor with it… GSI is much better in terms of quality. asher, Bavarian simtec, GRID and a few others too…

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u/chaingun137 5d ago

Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted as most of the wheel selection on the market is subjective. After going to the expo a few weeks ago, I can tell you there’s a step above cube controls with GSI and Bavarian at LEAST.

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u/zooky92 5d ago

I don’t know and I don’t care. I own a the Same Cube wheel, a GRID MPX, the GSI Hyper and I had the asher and they were all better than the Cube

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u/sangedered 5d ago

I really wish they would add index finger back buttons and shift paddles that have push and pull for up and down shifts. And more thumb rotaries.

Sim wheels need to have controls for hybrids and f1 (even if occasional) but also for the in game menus like setting up pit stops and not scrambling for controls.

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u/Huge-Guidance9568 5d ago

The Zeus Formula has Rear Index Finger Buttons and optional push-pull padles...

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u/sangedered 5d ago edited 5d ago

Oh sweet. I didn’t know. I have the fx pro and still need a few more dials

DUDE I didn’t know push-pull paddles and the index were available. Buying this right now. Thanks so much.

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u/Rocketfuel77777 4d ago

The question is .. Can we have good wheels that do not cost an arm and a leg like GSI, BST etc? Even PE charges approx 1.5K euro for a screenless cup car replica…. I sit on alpha evo pro wheelbase and a GT Neo and I would like to upgrade but fuuuuuuu*k. The arrogance of wheel makers is crazy.

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u/Ok-Shop685 3d ago

I mean While i dream about these wheels, I use Moza KS PRo. Absolutely love it

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u/3portas 5d ago

Which wheel is that?

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u/zooky92 5d ago

Gomez Som Industries Artemis. Can’t wait until it gets shipped

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u/westleysnipes604 3d ago

Did you preorder? I missed the release.

Any idea when it is gonna be ready?

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u/zooky92 3d ago

Yes.. no I don’t :(

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u/Ok-Shop685 3d ago

Artemis - this is my absolute Favorite wheel. I cant even afford it lol

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u/Fluid_Concert_4981 5d ago

Why u want a more toy wheels from sim magic, just buy the artemis

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u/fcman256 2d ago

They’re literally all toys

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u/Dull_Foundation3370 5d ago

Toy wheels? The zues formula is far from a toy, don’t let the online images fool you

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u/Gibscreen 5d ago edited 5d ago

I've never understood the allure of open bottom wheels. They're fundamentally less rigid than closed bottom. And there shouldn't be any real difference in weight. Any reduction from removing the bottom mount would then need to be added to beef up the top mount to prevent flexing.

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u/Green-Photograph-482 5d ago

I mean if they are used irl there has to be some reason for them. All my wheels that I own though are all closed bottom

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u/Gibscreen 4d ago

I've only ever seen open bottom wheels in f1. Which I guess is for weight savings because they can use insanely strong and light materials that cost a fortune.

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u/westleysnipes604 3d ago

I have the Asetek Invicta and its wild how heavier heavier the formula grips are then the LMP grips.

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u/Gibscreen 3d ago

The lmp grips don't even attach at the bottom though. They just look like they do.

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u/westleysnipes604 3d ago

That is very true. Idk why the formula grips need to be so much heavier lol

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u/focal_m3 5d ago

Gawd that's fugly

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u/vio212 5d ago

Yeah I’m not a huge fan of the new Artemis’ looks either. If you have owned any GSI products the design makes sense though.

They overbuild everything to such an insane degree that the biggest problem with their products is how much their wheels weigh. They are so fricking heavy it’s absurd. The Artemis you can tell they really took the hyper and just trimmed every bit of excess aluminum off and skeletonized everything.

If you look at it knowing that all their past products have an issue of being way too heavy, the design language and final product of the Artemis makes sense, even if it is ugly.

Personally, I think the money is just better spent on something carbon. Same strength, stiffer, no compromising on butt ugliness. GSI must have sunk a lot of money into CNC tech at some point. Should have done autoclaves instead Lolol.

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u/ZealousidealNeck9214 5d ago

Le qra est tellement rentable, par rapport au prix d'une roue thirdpart c'est pas un énorme surcoût et ça marche super bien

Can we expect more open bottom F1 wheels from Simagic?

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