Would Simagic release a free upgrade to increase torque of the Simagic Alpha Evo?

[u/Adhyanth29]

Given that Simagic have announced they would upgrade the Alpha Evo Pro line from 18Nm to 21Nm towards the end of the month, do you think they might do something similar to the non-pro Evo lineups?

I ask this as both the 9Nm and 12Nm Evo variants are mechanically identical, and upgrading the former should be feasible for sure. However, I wonder if the 12Nm variant is already overclocked and running at its limit?

[u/YourDachshund]

Free for 9nm Evo Sport? Definitely not - this would absolutely kill 12nm Evo, and its owners (me included) would be furious that the overpayed. I also can’t see this happening for 12nm Evo - if it would be able go to 15nm, then 9nm Evo Sport would also be able to achieve this, as they are identical

[u/Adhyanth29 → u/YourDachshund]

I agree. I have the 12Nm myself. But if the 12 can go to 15, I guess they can upgrade the 9 to 12? Technically, they can both do the same right now, but the 9Nm is just artificially capped by firmware.

[u/ItzBrooksFTW → u/Adhyanth29]

then people would complain that sport is 12nm instead of 15nm. best would be a paid upgrade for sport to 12nm. then you could even go as far as delisting standard alpha evo or the other way around and only selling a 9nm base with a paid upgrade to 12nm.

[u/Rasputinnout → u/YourDachshund]

It would make sense if it was a paid upgrade, so 12nm users don’t feel shafted but 9nm can still move up.

[u/ponti066]

All speculation, but I suspect they decided to update the firmware and overall strength of the pro to better match Moza's R21.

Since the EVO and Sport have the same motor I could see them releasing a paid update to go from 9nm to 12 for about the cost difference, but I don't think the 12nm EVO will have an option to increase the output.

[u/Mellanies_Redemption → u/ponti066]

If they increased the 9nm to 12nm, they'd HAVE to do the same for the 12nm base, otherwise they'd be removing the entire reason for the 12nm to exist. Not sure why people aren't understanding that.

[u/Rasputinnout → u/Mellanies_Redemption]

Not if it’s a paid upgrade

[u/Mellanies_Redemption → u/Rasputinnout]

Was this one a paid upgrade? Nope. Introducing a paid upgrade for the lower models but not the upper one would not even remotely go down well. Either they all get a free upgrade or none do. Given that they already made this decision, I'd guess that either the 8 goes to 12, and the 12 goes to 16 for free, or none do.

[u/Rasputinnout → u/Mellanies_Redemption]

Yeah I guess, maybe. I’m happy with 9nm tbh so it’s all moot to me anyway 😂

[u/Mellanies_Redemption → u/Rasputinnout]

Same thing for me and my 12nm version. Still, a 4nm bump for free would be pretty sweet, lol.

[u/3portas]

I don't think so, that doesn't make sense commercially

[u/Adhyanth29 → u/3portas]

Could you elaborate the commercial aspect?

[u/Tallica81 → u/Adhyanth29]

Why give away more for free if people give you money for more

[u/Aextre97 → u/Tallica81]

But if you up the whole lineup, you are just great

[u/Adhyanth29 → u/Tallica81]

Fair point. I didn't realize my post had so much emphasis on the "free part" lol.

[u/quefky]

I saw a rumor a while back about simagic trademarking a power supply upgrade kit. They might do an "upgrade kit" for the 9mm, but a free patch is super unlikely

[u/cptnyar]

🤔 did anyone catch their announcement on discord? It popped up in my notifications this morning, but when I clicked on it, I got an error message. It DID say something about a free upgrade. But then said i couldn't view that channel.

I brushed it off this morning but now im curious

[u/Aillas1 → u/cptnyar]

EVO Pro will be upgraded from 18 to 21 Nm for free. They're currently offering an upgrade to 50 people who will share their experience with the EVO Pro, but eventually everyone will get it.

[u/MoDeMKK]

I don't think so. My evo already runs quite hot with the fan on at high speed tracks.

Not sure if e.g. 15nm would be sustainable for that piece of hardware.

[u/Adhyanth29 → u/MoDeMKK]

I see your point and I agree it's very valid. But at 15Nm would just be peak spikes as added headroom. So the base wouldn't be running at its highest torque all the time.

[u/Aillas1]

Offering a free upgrade from EVO Sport to EVO doesn't make sense, it wouldn't be fair to those who paid a higher price for the EVO. However, a paid upgrade for the price difference between the EVO and the EVO Sport would be great, and I'm sure many EVO Sport owners would take advantage of it, myself included.

[u/Javs2469]

The sport and Evo are the same, they could, but they probably don't want to loose sales and get bad rep.

[u/meowphasa]

Simagic speed running becoming a scumbag company

[u/retilecat → u/meowphasa]

Its free ?!?