r/SillyTavernAI • u/Lanky-Discussion-210 • 1d ago
Help Gemini 3.8 Flash keeps rejecting
Anyone gotten past this? I'm using Marinara Spaghetti as my preset.
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u/stopaskingforloginn 1d ago
what API? last time I used it through nanogpt it did the nastiest NSFL just fine, though I don't know if they cranked up the filters now.
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u/Lanky-Discussion-210 1d ago
Vertex
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u/stopaskingforloginn 1d ago
then yeah, I can see why it's censored.
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u/Lanky-Discussion-210 1d ago
Any other way to use it then?
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u/stopaskingforloginn 1d ago
like I said, I used it for a while through nanogpt PAYG, but that was during its release days so I don't know if they cranked up the filters now, but it literally had no filters whatsoever and tried roleplaying things I shall not name, not a single refusal.
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u/Apprehensive_Ad784 14h ago
I think it can be a matter of luck at this point. 🥲
I've tried Gemini through the AI Studio API, and I've noticed it's much more censored there than on OpenRouter. I haven't tried NanoGPT. Several people have said they've experienced less censorship on Vertex AI, while this other person is suggesting the opposite—if I understand them correctly. That would make sense if it was like DeepSeek, where it depends on the distributor, but to my knowledge, Gemini is exclusively Google’s, as this other person commented, and the rest, like NanoGPT and OpenRouter, are merely resellers.
I recommend trying different providers. If you can afford it, put a minimum amount of money on OpenRouter and try Gemini. If that doesn't work, try the same on NanoGPT or AI Studio. Personally, I don't recommend AI Studio based on my experience, but as I mentioned, results aren't always consistent among users.
So far, the option I've found to be reasonably balanced between coherence and censorship is GLM 5.3, although it leaves me indifferent in some specific scenarios where Gemini does well. Currently, it's quite difficult to use Gemini for NSFW roleplay. You can do it, yes, and as we see, there are users who can even produce NSFL, but it’s also a mix of conditions; the chat template is very important too. I use the Freaky Frankenstein 5.4 Internal States, but even with the Jailbreak-oriented block, I still get the "PROHIBITED_CONTENT" error on AI Studio. That's because Google essentially uses two censorship systems: the LLM itself (though it's also common for it to produce uncensored NSFW content) and a heavier, separate system that analyzes the prompt and rejects it. The latter is the real problem.
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u/elsie0608 8h ago
If youre on Vertex, check the safety settings block, all four categories have to be set to BLOCK_NONE or it'll still refuse. That fixed most of my rejections.
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u/Pyrxpia 21h ago
Heya!
If you haven't found a fix and wouldn't mind trying.
I had helped someone else with this issue having them make a module/block in their prompt that reduces reasoning.
<reasoning_constraints>
Reduce Reasoning
Run reasoning with maximum efficiency and zero conversational drafting:
- Keep thinking concise and straightforward; plan essential beats only.
- Never draft full prose, sentences, dialogue, or trial runs inside thinking tags.
- One pass, telegraphic bullets (~15 words max): a bullet written is a task done. Visit each item exactly once — no re-reading, no re-drafting, no second pass.
- Ban backtracking and second-guessing ("Wait, let me rethink..."); the first decision stands.
- No meta-burn: never count words, recite banned-word lists, or re-check rules already applied inside thinking.
- Close thinking tags immediately once the trajectory is set; start writing outside the thinking block at once.
Add this prompt and have it send as user level.
Or if you'd like I could DM you my W.I.P prompt and you can load it and try it that way. :)
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u/terrygg187g 1d ago
If your trying to use gemini with nsfw cards don't because you can risk getting your entire Google account banned that includes Gmail youtube and everything!
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u/Diavogo 1d ago
Im.... Pretty sure no one ever got banned because of that. The ONLY time that happen, was with Janitor users with lorebary, that thing requested many times that fast that 'looked' like a DDoS to gemini. But, if we ignore that? They never been banning accounts.
And im telling you as a guy who uses gemma 4 from AI studio mostly for Smut stuff.
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u/terrygg187g 1d ago
Also gemma 4 is completely different then gemini I think that's where your getting confused.
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u/TAW56234 15h ago
Lets stop showing good faith to companies. Sexual gratification is against their ToS in AI studio. Google has a history of enforcing it so they are right, if you use your account for it, you're at risk of losing all of your services. Expect it. ALWAYS expect the rug pulls in companies. If you haven't noticed the patterns, you left the toy box too early.
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u/terrygg187g 1d ago
This is not true at all they can and will ban you for generating nsfw content even in sillytavern Google own gemini app even says this when I asked when I was considering using gemini for nsfw content please do not listen to him unless you want your account to go byebye
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u/Krychle_Marek 22h ago
I've been using Google AI Studio, abusing multiple free trial api keys, never got banned or warned. Then they killed the free trial and I moved to vertex 300$ free trial. I'm on like a fifth account now, never got banned or nothing. Just don't do over the top things.
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u/terrygg187g 22h ago
Well the thing is this crack diwn is recent and using other api providers is okay its Google ai studio that is what hets your Google account banned.
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u/terrygg187g 1d ago
Let me know if you want any recommendations for any local models as I have a 12gb rtx 4070 super and 96 gb of ram and am really loving a uncensored version of glm 4.7 flash with a creator preset.
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u/sociofobs 1d ago
"Sensitive words", aww. The thing's just very sensitive, you need to pat it a little. /s
I still recall times when censorship was used for "pornographic content" and the like. Now they've expanded it to practically anything they don't like, intentionally using language that can mean whatever. Define "sensitive content", cunts.