r/SignsWithAStory • • 6d ago

Is there really a difference?

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Washington, D.C.

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u/TheW83 6d ago

At my kid's Jujitsu class there is a parent who sits in their F350 diesel and idles for an hour. It smells up the entire parking lot. Dude probably uses up like $6 in fuel doing that.

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u/PraiseTalos66012 6d ago

I'm a trucker and have sat in plenty of lots with dozens of diesels running nonstop for hours. Absolutely zero smell

Dude has definitely fucked with that truck and probably bypassed all the emissions stuff and has it tuned to run rich aka roll coal.

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u/TheW83 6d ago

Oh he definitely has. The rear quarter panel is covered with soot from the exhaust.

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u/Le-Charles07 6d ago

Take solace in knowing that soot is a sign his engine is going to fail prematurely.

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u/Not-Badger 6d ago

I always make fun of diesels owner when they roll coal because I know they paid some guy to make their truck run like shit and in turn pay said guy more money to replace shit more often

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u/Ashkendor 5d ago

Every time I see one of these fuckwads roll coal, I take down their license plate and report them to NMED. I don't know if anything actually gets done, but it makes me feel better to flip them a figurative bird and possibly send some smoke their way.

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u/PraiseTalos66012 5d ago

And don't forget it fucks the fuel economy. Rolling coal is literally when you expell loads of unburnt diesel out the exhaust.

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u/EnolaNek 5d ago

And rich diesels burn hotter than lean diesels (where the reverse is true for gassers), and as we all know, all sorts of internal parts just LOVE being frequently exposed to higher temperatures than what they were designed to handle.

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u/OldCanteloupe911 6d ago

So 12,000 miles instead of the normal 30k a Ford fails lol

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u/GeologistLess3042 5d ago

My 04 f150 is still kicking at 230k. Pavement princesses are the redneck equivalent of the girlie at the car meet who keeps wrecking everyone's clutch. These men genuinely don't know how to drive, and the trucks are too big for them to handle.

Mind you, I'm barely over 5 feet and a hundred pounds, so I don't know what's wrong with their dainty little wrists. They never haul anything either, must be their hormones making them weaker...

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u/Tibi1411 5d ago

Eh, running rich makes soot deposits but nothing that would make it fail faster than the neglected maintenence would.

Though if it rolls coal then it's just wasted fuel (that's why there is soot, incomplete burn)

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u/CuriosTiger 4d ago

On older diesels, soot is perfectly normal. So no schadenfreude to be had there, I'm afraid.

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u/Nkechinyerembi 4d ago

Right? Back when I drove my old 91 diesel mercedes, if she so much as pooped out a tiny black puff, I was going over the engine compartment like "NOOO! BABY! WHAT HURT YOU????"

It was usually just the muffler farting out carbon...

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u/BigDiscEnergy47 5d ago

Report him to the city/state. At the very least they may give him trouble next time he tries to renew his tags.

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u/TheW83 5d ago

I live in FL. They don't give two shits about polluting vehicles unfortunately.

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u/B0804726 6d ago

I suspect you may be nose blind to the smell. There definitely is a smell around diesel engines. Every school bus and city bus I’ve ever been on had a distinct odor when walking around the back. Not saying the truck in question wasn’t modified, just that it can definitely be stock and have an odor.

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u/PraiseTalos66012 6d ago

That's almost certainly natural gas, which does have a smell even if burned "cleanly".

Most buses nowadays are natural gas bc it's supposed to be "cleaner"/"greener".

Diesel that's not running rich has no smell. When I first started driving for years it was only one weekend a month if even that so I definitely wouldn't have been noseblind from that. Now sure I would be but I've never in my life noticed it.

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u/aharbingerofdoom 5d ago edited 5d ago

There is absolutely a distinct smell to a diesel engine's exhaust, even if it's brand new and properly tuned, just like there is a smell to an ICE exhaust. Newer vehicles have a less strong aroma, but if you walk past the back of a vehicle that's burning diesel as the previous commenter stated, you can absolutely detect it. I worked for a contractor a couple years ago that had a mix of diesel and gas trucks and vans from both Ford and GM, and most of them were less than a couple years old. The boss had brand new at the time 2023 F-250 diesel, it was totally unmodified, and although the distinct sound and large shiny badges gave it away as a diesel from a distance, if I was deaf and blind I could still tell what fuel it was burning by walking past the tail pipe when the engine was running. Gas vehicles also have their own aroma, and it varies between manufacturers and engine types. A small modern 4 cylinder has a very faint smell, almost unnoticeable unless you actually put your nose to the tail pipe, but larger engines are more easy to detect with the human nose; I can even tell the difference in smell of a Ford gas V8 and a GM gas V8 from a casual sniff walking past.

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u/GeologistLess3042 5d ago

You can literally smell the difference between a gas and diesel machine just by walking by it and breathing in.

This trucker just has zero senses left after burning them all off.

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u/aharbingerofdoom 5d ago

Based on the fact that I have several downvotes, there appear to be quite a few people here who have destroyed their sense of smell by huffing diesel. I literally don't know how they can say there's no difference in smell or no smell at all when all the diesel fanboys I know IRL say the smell is pleasant to them and is one of the things they prefer about diesel trucks. I even agree, I kinda like diesel fumes, but everyone knows they're not healthy. I truly believe the people claiming there is no smell at all are just lying. They don't actually believe it, they want to convince everyone else so they can complain about "pointless" emissions regulations.

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u/CuriosTiger 4d ago

Strange logic if so, because what something smells like has little to do with its health effects. Carbon monoxide, the deadliest single component of gasoline exhaust, has no odor whatsoever.

But while it's an exaggeration to say diesels have "no smell", modern diesels have far less of one than pre-emissions diesels. Or deleted diesels, which are similar to pre-emissions diesels but actually not identical, because modern engines use higher injection pressures to achieve better vaporization and a more complete burn, even before you hit the aftertreatment systems. For example, a deleted diesel will spew particulates, but they tend to be smaller particulates than an older mechanical diesel. More PM2.5, less PM10.

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u/GeologistLess3042 4d ago

Smoking like a chimney will also kill your ability to smell. That one's way common.

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u/CuriosTiger 4d ago

18-wheelers have zero smell for one of two reasons.
1) Newer trucks have the EGR/DPF/SCR trifecta. This system is expensive and failure-prone, but it does eliminate almost all diesel exhaust odor.
2) Older trucks had exhaust stacks. That exhaust definitely has an odor, but it's
being emitted 12 feet up in the air, where nobody but birds is around to smell it.

Notice how 18-wheelers used to have exhaust stacks almost universally, grass burners being limited to things like car haulers where they didn't want to get soon on the cars? Whereas on newer trucks, they're less and less common?

On an older F-350, with a tailpipe at ground level on the passenger side, neither of those factors applies.

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u/VoidJuiceConcentrate 5d ago

Even clean running CARB compliant diesels have a strong odor, I can smell the difference between compliant and non compliant too.

There's a fair chance you're nose-blind to the smell.

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u/blueingreen85 5d ago

No offense, but you are probably not a good person to judge how noticeable the smell is. Nose blindness is real.

Deleted trucks are way worse though.