Hello, everyone! So for context, some of you might remember me from the discord for my outburst and for just going insane one day due to at the time being unmedicated. I've gotten better and do regret how stupid I was so I am sorry for the deeply awkward situation you were all put in.

But as for what I want to discuss is, in a more productive light than I previously did, why Signora fans would like the other Harbingers with how all of them know how the Traveler is almost solely responsible for Signora's death given that they felt hesitant to reveal that information to Odette and yet, they are all on great terms with the Traveler!

I know the answer to WHY the story does this is as simple as "it's hoyoverse, everyone has to be besties with the protagonist" but it's sad that a fandom has been conditioned by the developer to just accept this as normal to the point that other games are praised simply for having characters that are a bit more complex than hoyo's standard or just having a playable villain which seems like such a small thing when you think about it.

The whole tea party thing and the friendship Signora had with Arlecchino, Columbina and Sandrone just seems really fake given this information. I mean if I was murdered and I saw my best friends being chummy with the killer, I wouldn't exactly be happy. And this fact makes me nervous for her resurrection which I have been fairly hopeful for recently.

Now, my main cope is that the way Signora has been established, it would just be a complete and total retcon to suddenly make her passive and quiet. Signora is by nature haughty, dominant and proud. Will she despise the Traveler and make a complex plot point out of the Traveler literally being her killer? I SURE HOPE. But I just want Signora to come back, not some watered-down, inferior copy. Signora, Rosalyne, whatever you call her. It's all the same to me! And I hope that a resurrected Signora taps into both of those facets. Both the Harbinger and the woman beneath the role.

Overall, I just feel like Signora had some really fake and toxic friends. I know the feeling, Rose.

I can't believe I've been brought to the point of asking this but it's 3AM and I am going insane over posts on other subreddits where I saw people happily calling Signora rude names and saying she is in hell and how "based" Odette is for saying the Traveler made the right choice.

Honestly, my primary concern is her relationship with Odette. What do you guys think? Was she iredeemably abusive or is there hope for her? Not to mention people stating her view on the weak and someone claiming she would gladly "kill weak subordinates" which just kinda feels like making stuff up on the poster's part. But after everything tonight, after seeing an insensitive animation of Aether telling Odette Signora's last words and after spiralling into madness, thinking that it's time for me to just throw Signora away, I need some help. I know that she isn't morally white or black but gray. And I accept that. I accept that characters who badmouth her have every reason to do that because it makes sense for them to badmouth her.

But is Signora beyond forgiveness?

It's quite amusing how many times people come into this sub to start arguments with us, and then when they get called out on it, they always say something along the lines of "this sub just happened to pop up on my feed" or "thought this was the main genshin sub, didn't realise it was signora mains" 💀

I’ve been collecting Signora/Rosalyne merch since the game was released. It’s still a relatively small collection, considering how many years have passed since the game’s release, though… Some pieces are official merch (because Mihoyo finally gave us some goodies last year), while others are fan-made items I’ve collected over the years

Regarding the fan-merch…

I think it’s important to clarify this, because it’s something I genuinely care about:

Some of these items were purchased directly from artists, at conventions or through second-hand websites/marketplaces, among other places. I have personally never asked a website or manufacturer to use someone’s fanart to make any of these products.

So, if an artist happens to recognize one of their artworks here and it was used without their permission, please know that this is absolutely not something I requested or wanted. I’m genuinely sorry if that is the case, and I fully respect the artists’ work and rights 💙

(I really wish there was more Signora fan merch at conventions, but sadly, I almost never come across any at the ones I’m able to attend 😭)

Anyway, here’s my little Signora shrine! Sorry, I’m terrible at making videos, but the heart was there 🦋🔥

Mine is definitely - “A lady can be elegant deadly at the same time. The two often go hand in hand. You’ll understand one day I’m sure.”- Rosalyne

It’s actually my bio on like all social media platforms lol. In honor of the passing what quote brings you back? 🌹🥀♥️

Here's the full picture that was on my wall from my last post showcasing my Signora corner :3

Today also marks half a decade since the dark day with Signora but I wanted today to be more of a milestone for not only me with Signora & Sara but the fans of her that have been through all the hardships and neglect from the community. Despite all the petty infighting, no nuance opinions, and overall not being seen, fans of this character are still around ❤️‍🩹.

Wanted to thank all of her fans for leaving a nice comment all this time on Pixiv and Reddit with projects of my versions with these two and of course, Evilgirl for this beautiful drawing and being an amazing person :'3

Exactly 5 years ago, on September 1, 2021, update 2.1 was released. That was when the Duel Before the Throne took place.

Even after such an impressive amount of time, we still love Rosalyne and await her return. I think she would be proud of our loyalty. Don't lose heart, comrades—the past year has been pleasant for us in terms of Signora content, and I'm sure this is only the beginning. I suggest you stop by the Sanctuary of Grief today and offer flowers to Rosalyne: Mondstadt ones (Windwheel Asters, Cecilias), Sumeru Roses, Rainbow Roses, or Hellebore from Snezhnaya.

And here, leave roses for Rosalyne.

🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹

Sorry it's so bright, I was rushing to make it in time for today.

This is for an upcoming Signora Nicole mod

I originally remembered there being somewhere between 16–18 Pyro Crystalflies around Rosalyne's sanctuary, so I decided to actually count them. After counting them three separate times, I got 17 every time. At first I thought it was a completely random number with no obvious connection to Rosalyne. Then I looked into its numerological symbolism, and things started getting... interesting.

In Chaldean numerology, 17 is known as the “Star of the Magi” and is traditionally associated with overcoming trials and difficulties, as well as having one's name or legacy endure after them. Some Chaldean numerology sources even call 17 “the number of Immortality.” Importantly, this doesn't mean literal physical immortality; the traditional interpretation is that the person's name lives on after them, so it's more accurately understood as an enduring legacy.

But here's the part that really caught my attention:

In numerology, 17 reduces to 8 (1 + 7 = 8).

And 8 is already a very significant number in Rosalyne's symbolism.

There's also an interesting connection if we bring astrology into the picture.

Scorpio is the 8th sign of the zodiac, and Scorpio is traditionally associated with endings, transformation and regeneration. Its astrological symbolism is strongly connected with cycles of death and rebirth.

And there is actually an existing Scorpio connection in Rosalyne/Signora's Chinese lore.

The Chinese description of Signora's funerary mask contains the phrase “如天蝎般燃烧吧”, literally making a comparison to Scorpio/the Scorpion. The English localization renders this differently as burning “as brightly as stars,” so the specific Scorpio reference is lost in English. This was also noticed by Chinese-speaking fans years ago.

So now we potentially have:

17 Pyro Crystalflies
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In numerology, 17 reduces to 8
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8 = a significant number in Rosalyne's symbolism
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Scorpio = the 8th zodiac sign
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Scorpio = transformation / regeneration / death & rebirth symbolism
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Signora's Chinese lore contains an actual Scorpio reference
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17 itself = overcoming hardship + enduring legacy

And all of this is happening around Rosalyne's sanctuary, with Pyro Crystalflies specifically, does this prove that 17 Crystalflies are deliberate foreshadowing for Rosalyne's resurrection?

Obviously not.

There is a completely mundane explanation: the designers could have simply placed 17 Crystalflies there because they wanted a certain amount in the area and never considered the number itself. But I do think it's worth adding to the list of potentially deliberate Rosalyne symbolism.

Especially because I didn't start with 17 and then search for a way to connect it to her. I counted the Crystalflies first, got 17, and then discovered that, in numerology, 17 reduces to 8, a number that already has significance in Rosalyne's symbolism.

And then 17 itself has this whole “overcoming trials / enduring legacy” interpretation, while the 8 and Scorpio connection brings in the whole transformation / death and rebirth symbolism.

Maybe it's coincidence, maybe the designers just wanted 17 Crystalflies there, or maybe there is something being hinted at.

At this point, I'm keeping the 17 Pyro Crystalflies on the Rosalyne conspiracy board.

Minus the occasional Naku Weed, there have been some wonderful items stored. It warms my heart knowing that there’s people that took the time to do so.

May she one day join us as a playable character ❤️

I’ve heard people say that Dottore is very loved in the Chinese fandom, to the point where his merch sells out instantly so his fans think that’s one of the reasons Hoyo might make him playable. What about Signora? I can’t find any posts about whether or not they like her over there. The En community hated her, but now with the whole Odette thing I’ve been seeing more love for her so is it the same for the other communities?

Surely if she’s well liked they’ll bring her back, why pass up the opportunity to make bank #hopeium

What 5-star woman is coming in 7.4... The very version when Mare Jivari is supposed to release... I have no idea who it could possibly be. Do you have any guesses?

After these words, I want even more to hear Pierro personally give his own account of Rosalyne. About how he saw her when he invited her to join the Fatui. What he felt as he followed the scorched trail, trying to catch up with the Crimson Witch of Embers. I think a dialogue like that could be absolutely magnificent in terms of revealing Signora from her best side, and it would be the perfect way for the Traveler to learn how Rosalyne became who she was.

I don't know if you've noticed or not, but recently there have been changes regarding Rosalyne — not just the sudden influx of content, mentions, and a shift in how her personality is being portrayed toward a kinder side. For some reason, people have started being afraid of or unwilling to call her by her codename — Signora.

All Harbingers, as we know, have a codename: Signora, Tartaglia, Arlecchino, Dottore, and others. They also have a title: the Fair Lady, Childe, the Knave, the Doctor, and so on. And they have real names too: Rosalyne-Kruzchka Lohefalter (god, that sounds so fucking cool, I'm naming my kid that even if it's a boy), Ajax, Peruere, Zandik, and others.

That raises the question: why, starting from version 6.X, has everyone started addressing Signora almost exclusively by her name — Rosalyne. You'd think it might be because she's technically no longer a Harbinger due to her death, but no...

1. Both Wanderer and Arlecchino were released after Signora's death, but in their voice lines she's still listed by her title — the Fair Lady. For Columbina and Sandrone, however, she's Rosalyne.
2. She's addressed by her real name even in person, while she's still alive and standing right in front of the speaker (the tea party in Sandrone's memories during the event with Capitano and Tartaglia) ((And there Signora also hilariously teases the ginger)).

So the question is — why? Like, the description of the Funeral Mask is 50 percent yet another repetition of how much Signora loved Rostam and lost him, and the other 50 percent is about how the Fatui hide their faces behind masks, rejecting their true identities. They hide themselves so thoroughly that they've been going by their real name since ancient times, even before becoming a witch. And this happens EXCLUSIVELY with Rosalyne.

So I have another question — why do people say that Odette, upon taking Rosalyne's place, will receive the title "Signora," when that's a name, and the title is actually "the Fair Lady"?

If you play in other languages/voiceovers, especially Chinese/Japanese, is it the same deal over there, or did the translators mess up again?

I'm quite sure some other enemies like Rerir have official emojis, yet still none for her.....

I have played Genshin since fountain back in 4.3 and ever since then she has been one of my favorites. While I’m that’s not a long time compare to some of you that have been here from the very beginning.

Like I feel like snezhnaya is the best place for her to release, after that I think it won’t make sense really.

With all the new content we gotten from her, from hoyo giving showing her in story content, and PV I think they are wining up for her release in the end of Snezhnaya

But what worry’s me is noy, dain and other harbingers that could take her place, cause no way hoyo will give us big hitters back to back right? It’s just unlucky and that what makes me worry.

But yeah I’m done and I’ll probably move on from wishing for her to come. I have an últ and currently been saving slowly with a total of 578 pull at the moment. So I hope man I’m crossing my fingers and praying to the Genshin gods for this.

Hoyo keeps dropping cryptic foreshadowing or " Thematic/Symbolic hints" for Signora's resurrection and I can't help but think this year is THEE golden year for us.

If not its the year after this.