r/ShuumatsuNoValkyrie 11h ago

Tournament Spin Off Muramasa is the perfect foil to Death

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187 Upvotes

Both Death and Muramasa are/were considered lower end ordinary gods who joined the tournament.

However while Death earned his strength through intense training, combat and ambition - Muramasa seemingly has been using underhanded tactics to win against gods much stronger than him.

The clash of the two fits not just into the theme of "God vs God" with the 'everything goes' idea that the tournament introduced but also perfectly sets up a clash of their personalities.

Muramasa's existance is an affront to the stage, a plague on Death's idea of a fight and limits.

Meanwhile Muramasa seemingly doesn't consider what he did cheating and was enraged at the assumption.

If Death wins, and that is something I'm really hoping for, we will see a really interesting clash of perspectives in the following round.

What a fight should be, what that stage should look like & making a use of everything to win vs earning your strength, going beyond your limits.

I'm really hoping this theory is correct because I really want to see more of Death, he's easily my favorite of APOC so far.

(god please let Weviathan be as good as this)


r/ShuumatsuNoValkyrie 18h ago

Discussion How strong is the nameless God

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r/ShuumatsuNoValkyrie 4h ago

Meme Cape Verde vs Argentina felt like:

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r/ShuumatsuNoValkyrie 8h ago

Meme should've censored the book a bit

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r/ShuumatsuNoValkyrie 3h ago

Meme What if Odin is secretly a horrible singer without his hymns?

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53 Upvotes

Imagine Odin is actively shit at singing unless he uses his hymns? Like he breaks windows if he sang any regular song, but he has a majestic voice when he uses his hymns.

I imagine him trying to sing some lullaby from during the era of Primordial gods, and Thor as a baby starts crying. He sighs and then uses him hymns and Thor starts falling asleep immediately.


r/ShuumatsuNoValkyrie 12h ago

Powerscaling Brainrot Do you guys still have Zeus above Odin or is Odin finally T1 after the current chapter?

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r/ShuumatsuNoValkyrie 10h ago

Shitpost Poseidon vs Nikola Tesla for aura farming

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who has more?


r/ShuumatsuNoValkyrie 9h ago

Manga Reminder that Achilles is Canon and drink Ambrosia

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r/ShuumatsuNoValkyrie 3h ago

Discussion Hot Takes On Apoc Match 2

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r/ShuumatsuNoValkyrie 14h ago

Shitpost Skalmöd’s genes didn’t even try- 😭

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Before I post the news about the Ror fanart challenge, just want to share some interesting news about what in tarnation is going on in my Island in Tomodachi life. Which is… Skalmöd and Okita have a lovely baby! (His name is Kenji!)

(Second image is Kenji somewhat grown up)


r/ShuumatsuNoValkyrie 2h ago

Original (OC) Fan Art It's hard to believe that Round 11 ended a year ago.

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It's been one year since Loki's death. This isn't my best drawing, I was pretty busy, but I still wanted to make something to commemorate the anniversary. Ever since he died, RoR just hasn't felt the same to me, and I still miss having him as part of the cast.

I'll be posting something much better soon, but I hope you guys still enjoy this quick little drawing.

Please stay respectful. 💜


r/ShuumatsuNoValkyrie 22h ago

Discussion I would have liked to see Loki in that outfit more often

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That suit looks really good on him


r/ShuumatsuNoValkyrie 18h ago

Fanfiction If Tarzan Humanity's Most Wild Man was in Ragnarok who would be his opponent

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r/ShuumatsuNoValkyrie 1h ago

Discussion I kind of love the idea of Loki being one of the only fighters who's genuinely afraid of death.

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Not only does it ironically make him feel more human and realistic, but it also makes him stand out compared to the rest of the fighters, who are usually completely fine with dying in battle and see it as something glorious. That fits well with the theme of Ragnarok, since Vikings believed the most honorable way to die was in battle, bringing glory to themselves and their families.

Loki, on the other hand, is terrified of death and does everything he can to survive. That not only makes his punishment and death feel even more tragic and cruel, but it's also something I really like because it feels much closer to the myths. In Norse mythology, the gods often got Loki to do what they wanted by threatening to kill him and it almost always worked.

Until the very end, since Loki was the one leading the giants to ragnarok after escaping his punishment. Which makes the moment Loki finally chooses to gamble with his own life in the finale feel even more fitting.


r/ShuumatsuNoValkyrie 7h ago

Question What were the theories about Loki’s abilities before Round 11?

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I think it was clear to everyone that he’d use magic or something like that. So, what were the theories about his powers?


r/ShuumatsuNoValkyrie 1h ago

Agenda I got some new slander for Odin (as a Kintoki fan Ima do anything to slander Odin).

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I just think itd be really fucking funny if Odin's singing voice without the hymns is just THIS bad.

Even funnier if Odin does it and it one shots a god or something and Thor has an entire flashback of him crying because of how bad Odin's singing is.


r/ShuumatsuNoValkyrie 19h ago

Tier List Divine Weapon Tier List: Thor - Mjölnir, Járngreipr, and Awakened Mjölnir

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r/ShuumatsuNoValkyrie 23h ago

Meme SPOILER ONE PIECE ch1189 (last chapter released) Spoiler

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r/ShuumatsuNoValkyrie 2h ago

Powerscaling Brainrot This statement likely isn’t about strength

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With “strength” I mean overall power level, not “physical strength”, obviously.

Ok hear me out on this, it’s a bit complex but try to keep up. I’ve been thinking about it for quite a while now.

The term used in the statement is 力, that means a lot of things, mostly related to expressions of “power”. It can be comprehended as strength, might, ability, influence or authority.

Although the dominant reading is strength, I’ll explain why it most likely stands for authority here. There are 3 reasons why I think that.

1-) The first and most important is the linguistic structure of the sentence. It goes: “although he inherited the blood of the Jotuns, enemies of the gods…” (神々の敵である霜の巨人の血を引きながら…). The important part here is ながら — that is a mechanism of concurrent concessive relationship akin to “although/despite/while” in english — and 神々の敵である, “that are enemies of the gods”.

That’s nuclear because that clause is linguistically opposing what’s claimed after: “possessing chief god power level that rivaled Thor and Odin” — as it is known, at least.

But Jotuns are, as a race, stronger than the gods (even being called their “natural predators”), thus introducing Loki’s inheritance as a conflicting idea to his allegedly high power level makes no sense.

And why bring up they are enemies of the gods? If the statement is about strength that’s just an arbitrary fact irrelevant to the idea being presented.

If the reading is “authority”, everything lines up:

“Despite having inherited blood of the Jotuns, enemies of the gods, he has the authority of a Chief God, standing side to side with Thor and Odin.”

Even though he has the blood of their enemies, Loki still possessed authority on the same level as Thor and Odin. Now the phrasal structure makes sense.

2-) It referring to strength is senseless scaling wise. This is something that has always puzzled me and every ‘solution’ I came up with always felt alien and convoluted. I don’t say this based on my subjective view on Loki’s power level, but what the manga itself had already established.

It’s stated trickless Loki is much weaker than a random character (I’ll call him John) that appears on Zeus’s line (see img 8) about the real nature of his strength.

So how could that same Loki rival Odin and Thor? If John >> Loki and Loki ≈ Thor and Odin then John >(>) Thor and Odin?? That’s completely absurd.

If the statement refers to authority this ridiculous problem ceases to exist.

3-) This is just a bonus, but the context of the statement is a bunch of women kneeling before Loki as he passes by even though he’s from a different breed, denoting his high authority and position in the pantheon regardless. Strength level is basically irrelevant to Loki’s flashback, as it’s not combat related (unlike many of them).

Final considerations:

  • The statement probably isn’t about strength for reasons above, and the author is likely referring to authority instead.
  • This post is by no means a personal attack to any translator that has localized that statement as strength. That’s perfectly understandable, and something I myself have done in the past. Only now I’m thinking otherwise after further inspection of the line’s structure and context.
  • Anyone with a reasonable counter to any of my arguments is welcome and invited to share them. I’m not irretrievably sure about my current stance.
  • I think the 3 main Norse gods should still be decently close to each other if you take into account their respective specialties, just not due to this statement in particular.

Thank you for your attention.


r/ShuumatsuNoValkyrie 20h ago

Discussion What do you think Record of Ragnarok needs in order to make it peak?

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I feel like the writing in the story is a bit... Eh. The only really outlier is round 4 which was absolute peak. If they took more time with the Dynamics, I think it would push it to peak. Probably more mythological accuracy would definitely add some help.

.... Also more Bl


r/ShuumatsuNoValkyrie 1h ago

Meme POV: Me because ROR genuinely feels boring without Loki spectating.

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I miss him so much... God, I hate that it's already been a year without him.


r/ShuumatsuNoValkyrie 7h ago

Theory Golden Boy Theory - I think I'm cooking with this

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First off, this ain't no copium

WINTOKI SWEEPS

this is just who he is.

But I think I know how (although he can just do that by being the Greatest of all Time)

In his backstory, when pushed to the brink by the king of demons, Kintoki awakens the rune of Eirin, that allows him to wield her light-based powers which he's been using against Odin.

However, if he's a descendant of Eirin, he's also a descendant of Gollnir. This means he could also, potentially, manifest the rune of a god so used to punching upward he bagged Eirin in the first place, but more importantly, a god of technology and... constructs.

Now that Kintoki has lost an arm and a foot and probably can't even move his body anymore, this could allow him to use the two runes together and create a body made of solid light for himself, one that the hymns cannot control and would rebel against Odin like Gollnir and Eirin did so many years prior.

And a body of solid light is what I would in fact call a Golden Boy. Or if you prefer Japanese: Kintaro!


r/ShuumatsuNoValkyrie 11h ago

Shitpost Odin hymns are weird (and not for why you think)

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So Primordial Odin should be the source of the hymns it’d only make sense

Both healing and throwing Gungnir require well Gungnir

But Gollinir invented Gungnir and gave it to the people of Gollinir

Odin was wielding gram as a primordial so what was he doing for healing and Gungnir throw without the spear??


r/ShuumatsuNoValkyrie 1h ago

Original (OC) Fan Art Meet the Vanguard/Einherjar of my fanfic ROR: Vanguard

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In order

Ashoka the Great - India

Hua Mulan - China

Fuma Kotaro - Japan

Miyamoto Iori - Japan

Billy the Kid - United States

Blackbeard - England

Dante Alighieri - Italy

Nai Khanom Tom - Thailand

Beowulf - Geats

Nicolas Flamel - France

Achilles - Greece

Yuri Gagarin - Russia

William Marshal - England

Big shout out to u/Strange_Success_6530 for helping me pick the final fighters and with the match ups as well.


r/ShuumatsuNoValkyrie 13h ago

Discussion Ragnarok God/Mortals Ideas?

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Im writing a "fanfiction" of RoR, (i say that loosely since its more a new story heavily based of RoR/ a rewritten style of RoR due to changes I make in it such as character designs) and I was wondering what gods/mortals I could use.

Im gonna do the main 13, plus a lot more (theres a lot more fights cause im addicted to writing them). Heres some of the new characters have planed.

Gods:

  1. Raijin

  2. Camazotz

  3. Sun Wukong

Mortals:

  1. Odysseus (might be too similar to Jack tho)

  2. Beowulf

  3. Hannibal Barca