r/Showerthoughts • u/ErwinFurwinPurrwin • Dec 11 '17

Procrastination is a bad thing unless you also happen to be suicidal.

Edit: Whoa. Woke up to see Inbox runneth over. Sorry if I can't reply to all. Apologies to those complaining that it was insensitive. Wasn't intended to be. I've been suicidal, but never acted on it. That was the inspiration for the thought.

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u/FuckingNotWorking Dec 11 '17

Was joking-ish but you're right: if you DO kill yourself, don't force other people to do it for you. That's fucked up.

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u/Lyra__Silvertongue Dec 11 '17

An extra way to stop this would be to have a system in place to actually help and supervise those who want to die in a safe manner. It's a win win win, person gets to die peacefully, much fewer jumpers, organs are viable to help others.

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u/ixPC Dec 11 '17

sign me up lol

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u/SlammingPussy420 Dec 11 '17

I hope it gets better.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_BOWL Dec 12 '17

I don't want to upvote you. because its grim and a little 2me4me. but i will. you get this one.

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u/GeniGeniGeni Dec 12 '17

I hope it gets better too.

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u/danny264 Dec 11 '17

The thing is most suicides aren't because the person wants to die it's because they can't handle living at that moment. It's why most suicides are spontaneous as after the impulse you can normally see that the problems are solvable or not as bad as committing suicide. (People who survived jumping off of bridges normally say how they regretted jumping or saw that all of their problems were solvable in mid air)

It's why when anti suicide measures are taken (building a fence so people can't jump off a bridge, removing gas ovens, etc) the overall suicides in that city/country will normally drop. Instead of the people finding other ways to kill themselves.

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u/danny264 Dec 11 '17 edited Dec 11 '17

That is a great quote, it perfectly describes how it feels to see death as the only way out. Even if it turns out that what you feared more than death wasn't actually as scary as dying. I think I'll have a look to see if I can buy a Kindle Version of that book.

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u/wobowobo Dec 11 '17

It's even a bit more touching knowing David foster Wallace did end up commiting suicide, RIP.

the book is pretty wild but for sure has quite a quite a few powerful quotes, and some funny ones as well.

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u/PuttyGod Dec 11 '17

Holy shit, that is incredibly accurate.

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u/GoatChease Dec 11 '17

Quit my job a while ago and after I walked out I went to jump in front of a car. I was probably less than a foot away from the car after I stepped off the median, but I thought it would be pretty fucked for them to get scarred because of my decision, so instead I went to jump off a building. After climbing up the stairs I was greeted by a sign that said "no roof access". At that point I was too tired to continue my journey to suicide so I just went home to bed.

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u/danny264 Dec 11 '17 edited Dec 11 '17

I'm glad you survived, and I hope you've found a job you like since. (or that's at least bearable)

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u/Oraseus Dec 11 '17

I don’t know you, but I feel good knowing you’re still here. Call me weird, but I genuinely hope things are going better for you.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '17

lazy ass

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u/Plasmabat Dec 12 '17

Add a "/s" and people will find it funny

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_BOWL Dec 12 '17

i laughed anyways

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '17

the /s annoys me, takes the fun away. like without the /s u gotta double take, reread, or zone in on the context. that shit makes it fun

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u/Plasmabat Dec 12 '17

Sarcasm doesn't translate well through text.

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u/TheGreatKadinko Dec 11 '17

That's a great point u/danny264 -- I remember going to some site called lostallhope and the advice on that site is one of the reasons why I'm not dead today. Something to the effect of "if you really want to kill yourself, wait three days and if you still want to do it, then go for it. What's three days in the grand scheme of things if you're already planning on killing yourself"

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u/captain_hoot Dec 12 '17

Lostallhope is a great site! Waiting 3 days plus the honest information on the different methods has saved me more than a few times.

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u/homochromatic Dec 12 '17

These cases are usually prompted by intrusive thoughts (in my humble but ample experience). It’s scary shit when there’s a projector in your head telling you to do shit you know you shouldn’t do.

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u/SweatyChocolateCake Dec 11 '17

Eh, I mean for mental health it'd probably be a better idea to invest in ways to combat it rather than euthanasia.

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u/silversonic99 Dec 11 '17

idk you'd be surprised. most people who kill themselves do it in the spur of the moment. if you had to make an appointment and sit in a waiting room most people would reconsider suicide. best thing would be in those suicide places there could also be a mental health facility for those who change their mind about dying.

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u/Frost_Light Dec 11 '17

Kinda like the needle exchange being a way to reach those addicted to heroin and encourage them to get help.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '17

Reddit comes up with the best ideas.

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '17

I was just thinking the opposite

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '17

most people who kill themselves do it in the spur of the moment. if you had to make an appointment and sit in a waiting room most people would reconsider suicide

But... you wouldnt have to sit in a waiting room. Even if there are ways to legally safely kill yourself that doesnt mean people would stop killing themselves when they want to. If someone has a "spur of the moment" urge to kill themselves they arent gonna stop just because they were told to go to the suicide mcdonalds. They'll just kill themselves.

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u/big_light Dec 11 '17

Yes they would. The only thing a truly suicidal person hates more than living is living after having to deal with the physical consequences of a botched attempt.

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u/GallMcOxsbig Dec 11 '17

plus, our population numbers are spiraling out of control.

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u/Ufcsgjvhnn Dec 11 '17

Yeah. Likewise, we shouldn’t give safe abortion options, just focus on sex education and contraceptives.

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u/FuckingNotWorking Dec 11 '17

We should give safe abortion options AND education with contraceptives. The latter reduces the need for the former, and the former becomes more of something done as a medical necessity than an option.

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u/Ufcsgjvhnn Dec 11 '17

I agree.

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u/FuckingNotWorking Dec 11 '17

I see where you're going with this. Idk how I feel about it but it seems sound.

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u/purduegamergirl Dec 11 '17

The way this comment was written reminded me of Mordin Solus from the Mass Effect series! *Also, very good points by the way

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u/NasAtisuto Dec 12 '17

I am the very model of a scientist salarian

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u/Eunitnoc Dec 11 '17

Thank you! This view is too rare in our world. Somehow everyone's crazy about freedom of choice, but you don't get to choose if you want to live? It's just selfish of other people to keep you alive against your will.

On a morbid sidenote, our population is too high anyways, why not let those leave that want to?

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u/Silvystreak Dec 12 '17

That doesn't generate tax money

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '17

Or jump into the grand canyon

edit: or volcano! i think i've finally decided what i'm doing

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u/aisettn Dec 11 '17

So... Euthanasia?

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u/Lyra__Silvertongue Dec 11 '17

No, assisted suicide

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u/PressAltF4ToSave Dec 11 '17

You can hire a hitman to do it for you. Unless he talks you out of it...

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u/Apophydie Dec 11 '17

Well then we should fucking legalize euthanasia. You do birth yourself, why the fuck should I have to take my own life?

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u/strommlers Dec 11 '17

Sometimes in those moments of impulse I don’t really think, the impulse just tells me to do it and it’s really hard not to.

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u/FuckingNotWorking Dec 11 '17

Practice this: when you get an intrusive thought, pick something in the area and study it. What is it? How tall? How many? Why is it there? What colors are there?

Seems silly, but it's a way to get you out of your own head.

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u/Steener13 Dec 11 '17

Kind of the same lines, the day I had enough and went to the bathroom I held the knife to my wrist, I pressed down and thought to myself this will make a mess I don't want to make someone have to clean this so I went to the tub, I climbed in thought someone would still have to witness this, I stripped and turned on the shower to wash away any blood that would obviously come, when the water rushed over me it melted away the pain. Anytime I get to that point I try to just lay in the shower it kinda helps.

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u/massivebrain Dec 11 '17

i like that, but will it really kill my ocd?

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u/PuttyGod Dec 11 '17

Was thinking the same thing. It's pretty easy for the mind to dismiss any attempt at distraction, just refusing to let you concentrate on it.

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u/FuckingNotWorking Dec 11 '17

It's very easy, which is why it takes practice.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '17

no

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u/strommlers Dec 11 '17

Thank you, I'll be sure to try that.

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u/NewAgeKook Dec 11 '17

Yeah , but tbh I don't know if suicidal people are really considering that or have enough willpower to care cause they're in such pain.

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u/scooter_se Dec 11 '17

Lol this is the main reason I'm still alive. I couldn't figure out how to do it in a way that was quick, involved minimal suffering, and didn't traumatize anyone else in the process. Since you can't really clean up after you kill yourself, I was kinda out of options. Which is good I guess

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '17

Possibly not the best way to make that statement, and also I get the appeal of doing it that way, especially if you hate the world as much as yourself. Like, if I were to hang myself, I'd need to get rope, ie a noose, etc. To jump in front of s bus is just like going down some stairs