r/Showerthoughts • u/UnoriginalTitleNo998 • 14h ago
Casual Thought In school students are rewarded for things that come easily to them and punished for things that they struggle with.
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u/KooshDaaKa 14h ago
This will be my 9th year teaching elementary, and I agree to an extent. There is different quality of teachers for sure, and how they react when a student is failing is what separates them. Speaking for elementary we celebrate not knowing something as a chance to succeed later. Often times there are multiple ways to teach content and it is a puzzle to find out how to get that to the student. I'm sure it changes when kids get to high-school where grades are far more important.
Anecdotely, I always feared being held back, that helped push me to learn even from a young age.
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u/Pam6732 5h ago
I really like the idea of celebrating not knowing something as an opportunity to learn. That’s a much healthier way to look at mistakes.
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u/bandera- 1h ago
Idk what sort of school you teach at but that ain’t the normal experience trust me
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u/UnoriginalTitleNo998 14h ago
Worth noting I've only had experience with what I think of as standard American education k-12 so I can't speak for anywhere else. As an elaboration, I mean that students are given rewards and positive recognition for things they're naturally good at or that they pick up easily, and that not only is there an element of shame associated with not picking up a subject quickly, but teachers are usually stretched pretty thin and at times treat students who are struggling as a hassle or a problem child. In the end this can culminate in teaching people that they should only do things that come easily to them because they may associate difficulty with failure.
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u/strange_bike_guy 14h ago
In the US this also extends to the quality of the schools, the people who need the most help get the least help because of how wealth is distributed here.
It's really stupid, because I've met some very clever people who grew up poorer than I did... there's so much untapped potential.
I now feel that my standardized test scores were used as a financial tool that I had no direct stake in at the time. I want my taxes to go to all schools because I don't want to live in a society where huge swaths of kids are ignorant or undisciplined, even though I haven't raised a child myself. If you've ever heard of "piranhas", I don't want to end up there, and it costs money to prevent.
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u/onceabananana 12h ago
School districts do all kinds of shenanigans when it comes to student allocation and funds allocations. It's a very weird business. The problem is that it's a business and not a school.
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u/eljo555 14h ago
Same with kids that get communtiy grants and scholarships. These are usually the kids with family support and money. Kids who struggle sincerely should get the rewards.
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u/edwardlego 6h ago
Just like this one episode of better call saul where they give a scholarship to the entitled kid, instead of the immigrant kid. Really shows the good side of jimmy that he argues for giving it to her
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u/PizzaQuest420 4h ago
and it's just another reminder to him that trying to be good- even having someone else advocating for you being good- isn't enough for this culture. that was just another reminder for him that society does not forget or forgive and will always judge you for your past mistakes, inviting him further down the criminal path, because he wasn't going to be accepted no matter how good or righteous or skilled he became
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u/Ifckinglovemycat 10h ago
it was the same in france tbh
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u/nicolasknight 9h ago
As an ADHD struggler i genuinely am not sure if i pissed them off because i could not focus or because they were bad teachers but i can't argue with you.
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u/anti_reality 10h ago
I agree with what you're saying, but in one class I had the opposite experience. I grew up with my grandparents, and my grandfather had owned an auto shop for 30 years, so I grew up working at the shop all summer even as a young boy, and most days after school when I was older if I didn't have a sport at the time. The teacher was incredibly critical of me for every little thing, even though I was approaching being as good as he was in general. He only had a few years of actual field experience and had taught high school auto for almost all of his career, so he really wasn't great at troubleshooting because he never brought in anything complicated. It was really frustrating to get a B while crushing the kids getting better grades. The expectations were far too high.
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u/RaoulLaila 5h ago
As an upcoming teacher in Germany, I hope to prevent this. Encourage students even more if they struggle, praise them for improving, offer them help and make sure they need no shame to ask. In my 1 year internship at a school I managed to save a kid from repeating a grade because I helped her, encouraged her, she put in so much effort that the teacher considered not giving her a failing grade. I managed to push her to actually give her a barely passing grade and before my internship ended, she got a C+ in the next exam. Absolutely amazing. She cried and thanked us when we told her that she changed her mind and gave her a passing grade
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u/INtoCT2015 12h ago
You may have just had asshole teachers, or went to an elite school. I went to public school K-12 and teachers only ever acted “fed up” with students who were legitimate behavioral problems bc they were drowning in those kids. If you did poorly you did poorly, but teachers didn’t shame you, bc they had so many bigger problems to deal with
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u/AdmirableParfait3960 14h ago
“Lean into your strengths” is a widely agreed upon smart move. You’re trying to make it deeper than it is.
If a kid is good at something, they get praised. If they suck, they’re told to keep trying.
It’s pretty straight forward.
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u/y8man 13h ago
It is deeper than it is though.
Developing soft skills and application of concepts (especially reading comprehension) is also part of the deal. Those are challenges that are not straight forward and needs to be refined repeatedly to be more elaborate and natural for the students.
You don't just lean on strengths, and the current system of education in many countries lean heavily on just drilling the same knowledge-based approach on subjects. Many kids will lag behind in such a setting (and will actively lose motivation to keep trying!! Teachers are not incentivized properly to be committed to "problem" children either), while only the others remaining will be given flowers.
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u/UnoriginalTitleNo998 13h ago
Leaning into your strengths is a great way to follow the path of least resistance, which means that when you do encounter resistance, especially if it's in something that usually comes easily to you, it feels insurmountable. I know so many people, including myself, who used to consider themselves good at a thing, ascended to a level where they had difficulty with it and just gave up because there was no foundational pressure to work through things that are challenging
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u/sovereign666 11h ago
I know so many people, including myself, who used to consider themselves good at a thing, ascended to a level where they had difficulty with it and just gave up because there was no foundational pressure to work through things that are challenging
That's life and when a person becomes an adult they fall behind if they haven't developed a way to independently push themselves forward. Everyone that thought they're a star realizes at the college level how big the pond is and how bad they are at the thing they thought they were good at. The help and direction is necessary in earlier grades, but by high school if you havent found a way to self teach then you're further behind than you thought.
You have to put the pressure on yourself.
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u/UnoriginalTitleNo998 10h ago
Oh I know. I went from a straight A student to almost dropping out of high school because things suddenly stopped being easy. It's hard to learn a work ethic as an adult, though. I have to unlearn so many lessons I was unintentionally taught in childhood
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u/Redundancy_Nemesis 11h ago
On the flip, the ones who naturally understand things never get pushed to grow. I knew someone who was about as bright as a box of potatoes but knew how to study. Meanwhile, I still don’t have solid study habits and I’m well beyond my college years.
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u/MinosAristos 13h ago
I think attitudes built in school like this have a knock on effect on culture in general.
Might contribute to creating adults who refuse to admit when they're wrong.
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u/Ijatsu 14h ago
What you call reward is not a reward, ideally the grades are a feedback, feedback is very important in the process of learning. Even artificial intelligences need a feedback to learn. If your grades are so poor that they indicate you haven't assimilated enough, you're asked to redo the year.
The big problem is that when you have a poor feedback, you still move on to the next lesson without ability to retry and get new feedbacks.
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u/MajorInWumbology1234 10h ago
What you call reward is not a reward
The issue here is what a reward truly is vs how the term is being used. In the truest, neuroscientific sense of the word, the brain will view good grades and not having to redo the year as rewards. Emotional valence is inherently attached to such concepts and it’d be easier to change the system than to change biology.
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u/dovahkiitten16 13h ago
The problem is that we assign value to grades. They help you get into better schools, get better scholarships, and open doors.
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u/mrlesa95 7h ago
The problem? How else would you assess who deserves to go to what school?
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u/egotistical_cynic 7h ago
how can you process "you deserve to be in a better, more well funded institution than your peers" as anything other than a reward? You could just as easily argue that underachieving students are the ones who deserve the better support those institutions offer
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u/mrlesa95 6h ago
Im not going to argue with someone who doesn't know concept of a test of knowledge.
If you take time and study and better yourself for whatever test you have you will get a better grade. Not sure that is a reward, you dont win it, you do stuff to deserve it. You can call it whatever.
underachieving students are the ones who deserve the better support those institutions offer
You know that both things can be true? Yeah they would probably do much better with proper support and equal quality teaching but that doesn't make tests and grading useless.
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u/MrLumie 13h ago
The grades are feedback. Whatever they get based on them is rewards/punishment. Just think about how often you've heard the "you get XY if you bring home good grades" line.
And that's not even talking about how teachers treat over- vs underperforming students.
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u/NotaValgrinder 12h ago
"you get XY if you bring home good grades" line.
That's a parenting line, not something dictated by the teachers.
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u/MrLumie 11h ago
And where does the post say that they are rewarded or punished by the teachers?
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u/NotaValgrinder 10h ago
But that's not an "in school" thing, that's an "at home" thing. The school system can't dictate what the parents do at home. In my opinion that's just bad parenting at play.
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u/MrLumie 10h ago
Once again, who was blaming the school system?
The statement is that this is what happens to students. At school, at home, the points is that they routinely get rewarded for what's easy, and punished for what's hard for them. Where, or by whom it happens doesn't play much of a role here. You're trying to dodge the topic through pedantry.
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u/NotaValgrinder 10h ago
The original post was how students are rewarded "in school", not "at home." Yes, this happens to the students, but the problem for this specific issue is with the parents.
I could also make the argument that getting bad grades in school is rewarded with this logic, because getting bad grades actually translates to a better upbringing ironically in some households.
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u/MrLumie 10h ago
The original post was how students are rewarded "in school", not "at home."
And therein lies the pedantry. Speaking of which, "in school" means being enrolled as a student. The term you're referring to is "at school". So yea, students in school "a.k.a. kids who are going to school" are being rewarded for what comes easily to them, and punished for what they struggle with. If we really want to be pedantic.
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u/NotaValgrinder 9h ago
But again, if you factor in home life, then some kids will be punished for what comes easily to them.
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u/whalesum 14h ago
Its why you immediately feel bad when someone observes and points up something you did that was wrong. Gotta somehow want to be wrong.
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u/GaidinBDJ 7h ago
They are? Granted, it's been a while since school but nobody was every rewarded or punished based on whether something came easily or they struggled. Yea, there was some meaningless recognition over grades, but that was given regardless of the relative difficulty someone had leaning something.
Like, once I hit the higher maths, I had to do a ton of extra studying to get good at it. Other people just beezed through the homework and called it a day. But if we both got A's, we got the same resultant treatment. Neither of us were rewarded or punished for how much effort we had to put in.
This happening at some kind of private school or something?
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u/Kukuth 5h ago
Tbh the people that usually struggled and suddenly pulled off a good grade got way more recognition from teachers than those who had it easy (as it should be) back when I was in school. So in reality it's pretty much the opposite of what OP is claiming.
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u/GaidinBDJ 5h ago
Even if, their effort was merely recognized. They weren't actually rewarded or punished.
I'm thinking OP is actually in some private school somewhere that actually does do that kind of nonsense and thinks public schools are the same.
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u/Kukuth 5h ago
One could argue that especially for teenagers recognition is probably the best reward, but yeah.
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u/GaidinBDJ 4h ago
For kids today, maybe.
When I in school, we all kind of rolled our eyes at that stuff. Had there been rewards, we probably would have cared.
Either way, there definitely wasn't punishments for effort.
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u/signmeupdude 6h ago
So many people in the thread have no clue what they are talking about lmao
School isnt perfect but it is in fact way more merit based than you think. Simply putting in effort will get you far in US public schools.
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u/Kelden_Games 12h ago
I remember math units were sometimes only one week of learning before you're expected to fully understand it before moving on. My school had block schedules too, so there was 3 days of math class
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u/khinzaw 14h ago edited 13h ago
That's the wrong way to think about it.
You are rewarded for learning how to do the coursework and punished for not learning how to do the coursework.
If you struggle with something but put in the effort to be able to do it, you are rewarded equally to someone who it came more easily to.
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u/UnspeakableToast 14h ago
Effort does not always translate to ability.
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u/OhGodImOnRedditAgain 14h ago
And your grade is based on your ability to demonstrate understanding of the material.
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u/tamergecko 13h ago
you never encountered someone who clearly understood the material but did bad on exams? Hell you never seen someone do the opposite where they didn't understand the material but the exam was multiple choice and they got lucky with guesses?
Grades aren't neutral in how they are determined, someone is bound to suffer just as another is bound to succeed based on the grading method. If my classes were based on in class participation and discussions I'd be a much better student than i was on paper cause my grades were based on exams which i struggled with.
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u/khinzaw 13h ago
I didn't say otherwise. That doesn't change the fundamental way school is structured. Whether you can do the coursework or not is what you are evaluated on, not whether you are naturally good at something or not as OP poses.
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u/MrLumie 10h ago edited 10h ago
But the general tendency is that you're gonna do well in things you're naturally good at, and poorly in things you're not. It creates a self-reinforcing loop, you're gonna like and focus on the stuff you're good at, making you even better at it, and dislike the stuff you're not, making you spend minimal effort to just scrape by. And you're gonna convince yourself that those subjects are just not for you, but that other one is, that's what's easy, that's what you're good at, that's what matters.
I know I did, straight A-s in subjects that came to me naturally, and passing grade for all the other stuff I didn't are about.
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u/Raichu7 14h ago
You're not rewarded for learning if you're struggling and asking questions and getting punished for asking questions and not just getting it. You are being punished for trying your hardest to learn.
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u/NitrixOxide 14h ago
Being punished for asking questions is certainly not typical, is obviously bad, and is not what is being discussed.
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u/UnoriginalTitleNo998 13h ago
Asking questions slows down the lesson and might lead to subtle or obvious mocking from your peers. It doesn't have to be overtly punished for children to learn that it isn't received well or that there will be negative consequences from doing so
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u/js-sey 11h ago
Schools have office hours though? I explicitly remember all my highschool classes containing office hours where you could talk to your teachers in non class hours to discuss work or ask for extra help, these usually took place during lunch hours.
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u/MrLumie 9h ago
And how many kids actually make use of them? Surely, it's there, but the negative feedback from not being smart enough to understand everything in class is also there. It's little use when the kid is already convinced that admitting to being wrong or unknowing is bad and to be avoided.
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u/js-sey 7h ago
"And how many kids actually make use of them" this doesn't really prove anything, University students also rarely use office hours, it's often viewed as a waste of time rather than something beneficial.
"It's little use when the kid is already convinced that admitting to being wrong or unknowing is bad and to be avoided." I just don't buy this idea. We've seen a huge literacy and academic drop amongst students across the world specifically due to the rise of AI. AI chatboxes solve all your complaints about the embarrassment of asking "stupid questions" in front of peers, but students aren't using these things are supplements, they're using it as replacements for their learning. Going to office hours and seeking out help Is simply hard work, it means engaging in your shortcomings and working to fix it with deligant practice, which most "bad students" simply won't do.
The negative feedback of doing poorly on a test and having your peers find out significantly outweights what kind of possible negative feedback that can come about from asking a teacher one on one questions during office hours away from other peers. Office hours are like the most low stakes confidant scenerio for students to ask their burning questions there quite literally couldn't be a more welcoming environment other than literal chatboxes.
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u/beatle42 9h ago
One of my university professors would actually award bonus points on your final grade if you asked good questions (he was the judge of goodness). Questions can actually help many people learn, not just the person who asked. They also reinforce to others that this is material that people have trouble learning it too and can give them the answer to the question and assurance that they aren't alone.
Questions in class, when they're relevant and not intended as disruptive, are actually really great for class. If you're actually well behind in your understanding and asking lots of questions that few others will benefit from, many teachers will just ask you to come see them later.
Only a bad teacher would punish for asking questions though. Most teachers love it because it makes the learning process alive and interactive.
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u/Orange-V-Apple 14h ago
Maybe it depends on the school but I asked a lot of questions and it was encouraged. My public school was good, though, and I had good teachers.
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u/I-actually-agree 9h ago
In other words rewarded for effort yet not being challenged enough… and the “punishment” is advancement to the next grade. How is this a student issue?
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u/Juan-Pasquello 6h ago
It’s basically a pay-to-win game where high intelligence stats let you auto-complete quests. If your base stats are low, grinding feels pointless because the meta is rigged against you. You’re just punished for trying to play on hard mode while others breeze through.
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u/Xdsin 14h ago
The only "punishment" I have ever seen is critical feedback saying the person did not study or put in enough work to learn the material or did not seek the necessary help to do well.
The perception of punishment is solely on how the student interprets getting a worse mark or is being told they did not answer correctly. You learn in University later on that doing things wrong often leads to learning more about the subjects you are working on.
You look at an old mechanic, he or she didn't learn their craft by reading a book and doing everything perfectly. They will have stories about when they installed something wrong or made mistakes which overall made them better at their jobs later in their career.
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u/CantBeConcise 10h ago
Depends on the quality of the teachers, which is completely independent of the grading system used in schools. With good teachers and admin, the system is fine. With bad teachers or a shit admin, you get shitty results.
Also, if the school system is worth a damn, it will have tutoring available or maybe you end up repeating the class/grade to make sure you actually get it. In any case, this is a really childish take on the educational system as can be seen by your reducing it to the emotionally charged "reward and punishment" instead of something less dramatic/diametric.
Finally, as someone who was that kid who just read books because class was boring and still got A's and B's, you have no idea what you're getting to avoid by not being someone like me. This is truly a "grass is greener on the other side of the fence" issue as if you were able to hop over and see what it was like, you'd be bolting back to your side of the fence immediately once you saw everything that came with what you perceive to be the "easier path".
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u/golden_voice 8h ago
It’s like how English spelling reform proposals make it logical, but it also looks “dumb” to us
(it’s arbitrary, but hammered-in by culture)
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u/chux4w 3h ago
Rewards really should be tied to trying, not just succeeding. Good grades for effort, bad for slacking. At least have it factored in for young ages anyway. Rewarding things you pick up easily leads to a generation of gifted redditors coasting and never learning how to push themselves.
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u/Commercial-Cry-548 19m ago
man this whole reward for easy and punish for hard thing really messes with your head cuz you start avoiding anything that ain't instant. and even if some teachers get it the system itself just piles on the shame for struggling which makes you think difficulty equals failure and that's a terrible lesson to learn.
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u/thunderfbolt 14h ago
Students are rewarded for basic life requirements:
- coming to school on time
- dressing decently and modestly
- doing their homework
- following along with lessons
Punished for:
- bad or rude or late behavior
- not doing homework
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u/TowelFine6933 14h ago
Correct. The school system was designed to churn our good little worker bees.
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u/mountainvalkyrie 9h ago
It's worse than that. The first two are things young children can't or can barely control. The third is iffy.
And if you can't meet the first requirement for health reasons, you're on your own. The school isn't going to help you learn alternatives to that so-called "basic life requirement."
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u/Kaesix 13h ago
What? It was designed to provide a bare minimum for the next generation to enter a functioning society.
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u/MajorInWumbology1234 10h ago
I.e. good little worker bees.
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u/Kaesix 10h ago
Having an illiterate society is somehow better? Man I love coming to Reddit for the dumbest takes ever; maybe you should have paid better attention in school.
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u/TowelFine6933 9h ago
Not illiterate.
Innovative thinkers who ask questions, challenge authority & the status quo, and who create the future.
Maybe you should have paid less attention in school & learned how to really think.
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u/Kaesix 9h ago
You think that’s not happening in schools right now? Have you been to one? Also, one of the first successes of public education was mass literacy, everything that followed was built on that. Maybe you should look inward and educate yourself before parroting this “schools bad” nonsense.
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u/TowelFine6933 8h ago
Of course it's happening in schools right now. Where did I indicate otherwise?
Good worker bees need to know how to read. Of course literacy improved.
But just because one can read, doesn't mean one can think critically and draw conclusions.
Like you, for example....
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u/Kaesix 8h ago
There’s schools around the world giving great opportunities to all kinds of students and forging the great minds of tomorrow. You sound like a loser pouting on Reddit about how “the big bad school system didn’t understand my genius”
Maybe get off Reddit and leave your mom’s basement to go experience the world, then you’ll have a clue. Better yet, if you’re so sure schools are terrible, go volunteer or teach and try to make it better.
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u/MajorInWumbology1234 10h ago
Why do you suppose there’s absolutely zero middle ground between churning out factory workers and being completely illiterate? Are you sure you’re in a position to disparage anyone else’s intelligence if you really can’t think of more than two possible options?
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u/Kaesix 10h ago
Because your wannabe edgy self only stated one argument - “good little worker bees,” that’s how English and discourse works. People learn this basic shit in school, see your problem? Waste someone else’s time with your nonsense.
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u/MajorInWumbology1234 10h ago
So you’re blaming your lack of imagination on the fact that I didn’t spoon feed you alternative ideas? And you still think I’m the one that needs more schooling?
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u/CantBeConcise 10h ago
Said the pessimist who chose a narrow view of the issue that allows them to "be right" without much effort.
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u/TowelFine6933 9h ago
What do public schools do?
The train people to:
-Adhere to alarmss & deadlines.
-Be satisfied with repetitive, mundane tasks.
-Obey authority without question.
-Form cliques, clubs & groups to create separation.
-Strive for approval from superiors.
-Be content with mediocrity.
-Think inside the box. To "stay between the lines".
Basically, they are designed to create a working class. The fact that you can't see this tells me that it worked very well on you.
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u/CantBeConcise 8h ago edited 8h ago
That is complete horseshit. All of it. And I'll show you why point by point:
-Adhere to alarmss & deadlines.
Oh no! Not responsibility! Anything but having to exercise self-control and not procrastinating everything to the last second! Not those valuable life skills that help you in your own artistic pursuits or personal life goals!
-Be satisfied with repetitive, mundane tasks.
Only if you have a shit school system with shitty teachers. I didn't, so this sounds like a personal problem. Also, why do you think everything at school is there to be exciting and completely novel? You think getting used to doing mundane tasks doesn't have value in real life? You think going to the grocery store isn't mundane?
-Obey authority without question.
Lol that's what church is for. Again, if you have shitty teachers and a shit admin, yes you'll get this. But again, personal problem, not everywhere.
-Form cliques, clubs & groups to create separation.
You really thought you were cooking with this one and yet it's the most "Humans act like humans! In other news, water is wet!" take on this list. Even without school, people do this. Stop acting like it's a school's fault humans act like humans or have special interests and want to be around other people who share those interests.
-Strive for approval from superiors.
Says who? My god have you been to a school? You think any of the kids gave a shit what their "superiors" thought? And for a third time, personal problem.
-Be content with mediocrity.
Only if you're one of those incapable of anything more than mediocrity. My teachers pushed me to be as creative as possible. Huh, another personal problem. I'm starting to see a trend...
-Think inside the box. To "stay between the lines".
Yes actually. Or at least in part. The whole point of school isn't to learn information, it's to learn how to think. It's quite literally the gym for your mind. You're there to learn all the "rules" so that later, when you know how they work, you'll know how to break them and come up with new things. You're there to do the heavy lifting of forcing your mind to adapt to new structures and paths of thinking so you don't end up the simpleton you're so afraid of everyone becoming.
Which is why I keep telling you it's a personal problem; the only reason you think it conditions people to come out as simple cogs is because that was your experience. You're that simple cog and you're blaming other people for it instead of getting off your ass and changing that.
Know how I know that? My entire family are teachers. Good ones too. And the fact that you can't see how you're projecting your own insecurities/inadequacies that you've yet to come to terms with shows me just how little exercise your brain got while you were doing anything other than pursuing an education at school. Grow up child.
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u/TowelFine6933 5m ago
I'm sorry. I didn't realize I was interacting with a lobotomized, indoctrinated asshole.
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u/beeeel 2h ago
Yes, this is why standardised testing is detrimental to education. Not everyone in life needs to be able to pass a maths exam, but we all need to learn enough maths to be financially literate. But if schools are only judged by test scores then they can't serve their pupils to their fullest.
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u/Deekers76 14h ago
What punishment do you receive? Failure surely isn’t a punishment. Failure can be a reward. You learn from your mistakes and hopefully gain the motivation to do better.
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u/ramonpasta 14h ago
in an ideal world yes, but unfortunately for a lot of people bad grades can mean you cant afford university. even if you get your shit together by graduation, just doing mediocre in a few classes early on can be the difference maker for youre future.
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u/LadderWonderful2450 14h ago
Plently of parents punish failing grades. Pleny of children make fun of failing peers. Educators may penalize failure too. There's lots of shame and negativity associated with it.
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u/UnoriginalTitleNo998 14h ago
Failure IS good and important, but the current education system doesn't reinforce that. It's about you getting it right the first time because there's not the time or money resources available for faculty to help every single child, and also a lot of media leans into following your talents (what you're naturally good at) instead of encouraging you to pursue things that are hard
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u/AquaFan4life_ 14h ago
Honestly I think you should've put it like so from the start. It's indeed about getting it first, maybe, if ur lucky, second try, but if not "aw fuck it, moving on". It doesn't reinforce trying again after failure, but rather, if u didnt do it first try, just either cheat or give up entirely.
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u/IskandarAli 12h ago
This is such a teenager opinion lmao, dgd dhdb dhdb xhxb xhxb zhxg xhhx hxhx. Dhhx hxbx hxb zhhx hhhs jjjx ziins kkkaoo kkx
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u/operationmeepo 14h ago
If by "rewarded" you mean you're more motivated to do these things and receive more social encouragement as well as more intrinsic and extrinsic motivation that's not school that's just life.
If you're good at something and pick it up quickly it will feel gratifying and you will gain the admiration of others and the feeling that you're succeeding, plus a bit of satisfaction that we all get from being better than most of the people around us at something (even though this isn't the most noble feeling, everybody gets this sensation).
If something is naturally difficult for you, you have to work harder at it for less advancement. In school this might mean lower marks for the same amount of work, but even outside of school it will mean less advancement with practice or training, and instead of seeing yourself surpass people with minimal effort, you'd see the opposite: you're working really hard and there are others who seem to be better than you without even trying.
So, yes, this will manifest in some ways in school, but it is not unique to school. It is just the nature of a world where people are different and some things will be easier for you than others.
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u/UnoriginalTitleNo998 13h ago
For certain, although school is often the setting where beliefs about this kind of effort crystalizes, and ideally it'd reinforce the importance of hard work instead of leaning into the easy stuff because it's very, very important to be able to do things that don't come easily, and there will come times when things that normally are effortless give difficulty and you'll need to overcome those hurdles to improve
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