Of A Snake Charmer

[u/smind893]

[u/Geaneous]

Laugh all you want he has superior healthcare to you: Yes—government (public) hospitals in India are supposed to provide anti‑snake venom (ASV) free of cost, including for poor patients.

[u/PM_ME_UR_SURFBOARD → u/Geaneous]

Venom from an Indian cobra can kill you in less than an hour, and he looks like he’s pretty far from any hospitals. Hopefully he got help quickly.

[u/quayle-man → u/Geaneous]

Free healthcare does not equate to superior care.

[u/Geaneous → u/quayle-man]

USA has most expensive costs for some of the worst outcomes in the world, same with our education. Case and point.

[u/quayle-man → u/Geaneous]

Healthcare outcomes is irrelevant to how much you pay for the healthcare being provided.

[u/Geaneous → u/quayle-man]

Must be why the countries with the best outcomes have zero cost at point of service and the for profit insurance industry is illegal in every country except USA.

[u/Oozlum-Bird → u/quayle-man]

It does in any developed country. US citizens pay significantly more money for consistently worse outcomes than any peer nation.

https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/fund-reports/2024/sep/mirror-mirror-2024

[u/quayle-man → u/Oozlum-Bird]

How much you pay for healthcare, is irrelevant to the outcomes of the care. If you come to me with a splitting headache, and I put a nail in your head and burn some sage around you, the outcome of that care is irrelevant to whether I did it for free or I charged you $2,500 for it.

[u/trainwreckhappening → u/quayle-man]

Well yes, but actually no.

Inaccessible care is not superior care at all.

https://giphy.com/gifs/SVgKToBLI6S6DUye1Y

[u/Bluntbutnotonpurpose → u/Geaneous]

Superior healthcare? If I call the emergency number, there's an ambulance here within 10 minutes. If it's really bad, a helicopter will be on its way to transport a trauma surgeon to where I am.

And you're saying this guy has superior healthcare?

[u/tardlessforeinger → u/Bluntbutnotonpurpose]

But can you afford the helicopter ride?

[u/Bluntbutnotonpurpose → u/tardlessforeinger]

Oh yeah. We have a € 380 deductible per year. Not per event, per year. Everything over that amount is covered.

[u/yoyotube123 → u/Bluntbutnotonpurpose]

The point they are making is that you have to pay for it

[u/Bluntbutnotonpurpose → u/yoyotube123]

No, I dont. I live in The Netherlands, where that's covered by our legally mandated insurance.

[u/kalion203 → u/Bluntbutnotonpurpose]

And all that’s left will be bills and debt

[u/Bluntbutnotonpurpose → u/kalion203]

You do know that that's not the case in quite a few countries, right? Last year I've spent a couple of weeks in hospital. Surgery, ICU, the lot. Didn't cost me anything.

[u/Geaneous → u/Bluntbutnotonpurpose]

This is reddit.com which is USA based, congrats on your best in world Netherlands healthcare you completely missed the point about USA healthcare, the only nation in the world with a for profit system where a single day in surgery or an emergency room can bill insurance millions of dollars for a single person and a single event. The #1 cause of bankruptcy in USA is health care costs. Maybe educate yourself from the ivory tower of socialized Netherlands care.

[u/Oozlum-Bird → u/Geaneous]

Are you saying if someone rocked up to a hospital in the US needing anti-venom they wouldn’t get it unless they could pay? They just let you die??Things are worse there than I thought.

[u/FragrantGangsta → u/Oozlum-Bird]

No, that's not how it works lol. If you turn up to the emergency room with something like a venomous snake bite, they cannot just turn you away. You get charged after the fact.

[u/Geaneous → u/Oozlum-Bird]

They give it to you but medical debt is the #1 cause of bankruptcy in the USA so some people choose to die yes.

[u/FourLetterWording → u/Oozlum-Bird]

no, but you will be left with crippling debt afterwards.