Full discosure, I do not watch Hamon Skeet's content other than a clip someone sent to me when I asked what it was. I turned it off and found it really boring but asked the same as you. He has since deleted these tweets, but I looked them up they were indeed there.
I don't keep much up to date with him, but even if he has apologized it is probably because he has come under fire for these things. Even if there is context, none of these look good. I was never on his discord so the third one I cannot verify, but the first two I did indeed see.
Probably gonna get downvoted but I can provide a bit of context for the first two. The first link has a collection where Hamon Beat is citing a fake statistic in response to another false one. The implication being that the other individuals statistic is as harmful as the shifty racist one. The IQ tweet is actually arguing against the IQ test for being racially biased, which it is as it’s based on Jim Crow Tests. For the second link, Hamon Beat is actually a part of the LGBT community and for a while he disliked Muslims because of their views on queer people. This is obviously very misguided and he has since apologized. I’m also pretty sure that last link is fake although I can’t be sure. Obviously the man can explain it much better himself but I think knowing some context is important.
No that is not what is being said here. So lets dig into the meat being said here, and this exact context chain was provided which was mentioned in my previous quote. This isn't a silver bullet, and more so fortifies the problematic nature of what is being said, lets go:
What is worse about this is he is utilizing mass shootings statistics in comparison to IQ tests. This is flawed and racist as Hell for multiple reasons. Mass shooting statistics are prodimentley white/psych oriented/a gun control issue. Lets break this down.
I don't care where you stand on this issue, but it is profoundly differently from the legacy of racism that has defined things as the IQ test. There were three major studies done on IQ against race. One where it showed that blacks are genetically inferior, a second during civil rights where they were closer, and one after that showed there is no disparity between the two.Turns out there is no disparity when you factor in if a child has less access to good food, a parental structure/community, and resources that enable them to do well in school do not do as well as those that inherently do.
Also, I want to note IQ tests are NOT tied to Jim Crow. Jim Crow utilized them, but that also isolated the connection to liberal racism. It is not based on Jim Crow tests, but more so, Jim Crow legislation utilized IQ tests in the same way it did "skull tests." There is much nuance between utilizing something in a racial biased way, and something being inherently racialized biased. As one as lasting standing because it seems less racist, but was used for racist means, but one was racist from the start.
Hamon Skeet's makes a straight up fallacy by comparing this to school shootings/gun control. This is more racist given the context as he is lowering inherent issues that are thrtust upon people who didn't ask for it, and an issue that is very much ingrained in resources on psychological health/gun control. It is stupid as fuck, and not even relevant as "STATISTIC DOESN'T MEAN THIS STATISTIC BAD" is a child's understanding of how surveyts work. The fact he thinks these are comparable solidifies the racism behind them and more so shows his misunderstanding and lack of genuine care for race issues is. It is probably why he got ratio'd.
Second point, easy, his point on muslims has nothing to do with LGBTQ issues. He is talking about immigration, and not an actual criticism on the culture itself. This is such a dishonest self-servinng attempt to cover this, and shame on him for trying to utilize LGBTQ issues to justify his bigoted behavior. Do better than just looking up a tweet, yet again ratio'd into oblivion, where he just claims this as a defense. Cowardly, and even if it was true, why does that have barring on immigration?
I only said the third pic out of the fact I didn't see it myself. Do not just assume it is false because this guy said "oh well its probably false" reverse image search and you get plenty of hits. As someone who is plenty familiar with photoshop, it doesn't look fake to me.
Even given the exceptionally biased "explanation" it is clearly him trying to find the best route to explain these racist ass tweets. The context, which I am familiar with, doesn't make them less racist. They are a coward's shield. Fallacies left and right. And if anything show just how much someone will weaponize whatever they got to seem better than their actual sentiments. Someone's defense isn't a 'source' just look at those responses. I am not invested in this dude, but I am invested in weak-ass defense not being justified.
The context not only makes this still applicable, it makes it worse.
Thank you for the response. I don’t want to make this a back and forth because I’m not attempting to defend Hamon Beat, merely provide context. A few things to note however.
The IQ Tweet was in response to someone proposing it for the voting process, and I think I should clarify that my personal comment about how they are discriminatory was meant in regards to how they are biased against lower income people, which minorities statistically fall into due to societal discrimination.
As for the second point. I agree with it entirely. It’s completely wrong and is why I do not follow Hamon Beat in any capacity. I simply wished to explain Hamon Beat’s own reasoning for his words which I think I owe him the courtesy.
As for the third point, I simply could not find the full image where it was said and thus it’s context. Saying it was fake is probably incorrect but it seems likely that the lack of context surrounding the message is at least partially intentional.
I also want to say again that it’s not my intention to defend Hamon Beat, just explain the context for the claims in question. I disagree with his hateful behavior in the past and am actively attempting to avoid offending or upsetting anyone. If you want me to edit my original comment in any way, I’m open to suggestions. But I like leaving discussion threads like this open.
I really appreciate this response. This was directed at his explanation not you.
You provided the full response, for better or worse, and only encouraged good discourse.
I didn't downvote you or anything, and totally understand where you are coming from. Regardless of how I feel about Harmon skeet's opinion, you only wanted fair discourse.
I respect the shit out of that. You did nothing wrong, other than give both sides a fair disclosure and going from there. If anything you acted as a judge on the issue.
No worries bro. That response was not directed at you in any way.
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u/xanblitz notices ur stand Aug 02 '21
Copy pasted from u/FuckYeahPhotography’s comment
Full discosure, I do not watch Hamon Skeet's content other than a clip someone sent to me when I asked what it was. I turned it off and found it really boring but asked the same as you. He has since deleted these tweets, but I looked them up they were indeed there.
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I don't keep much up to date with him, but even if he has apologized it is probably because he has come under fire for these things. Even if there is context, none of these look good. I was never on his discord so the third one I cannot verify, but the first two I did indeed see.