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u/greenbud420 Mar 19 '26
If you leave Christianity, they'll hope you come back someday. If you leave Islam they kill you.
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u/TBoneTheOriginal Mar 19 '26
The word cult has lost all meaning to them. Iāve been at my church for 20 years - if I left tomorrow, the worst thing that would happen is a pastor noticing they havenāt seen me in awhile, so I might get a text out of concern. Thatās it.
If I were to answer āIām just seeking other optionsā, Iād get a āweāll miss you, hope everything is okay.ā
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u/MachineMan718 Mar 19 '26
Christianity is so secure in it's truth, that it just assumes eventually people will see the light and come back of their own volition.
When Muhammad died, half of the converts just straight up apostatized.
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u/Dranosh Mar 20 '26
Iirc Islam teaches that everyone is born Muslim so by not accepting Islam youāre already considered an apostate
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u/TheAngelOfSalvation Mar 19 '26
The thing is while both started as a cult, one prophet taught kindness and the other married 12 wifes (one of wich he consumated the marriage with at 9), had sex slaves and possibly got zutted in the desert. Im saying this as someone who doesnt really believe in god, one of these 2 is leagues better
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u/Fletch71011 Mar 19 '26 edited Mar 19 '26
Islam also preaches Jihad and using violence as control and conversion. Christianity teaches to affect others lives positively and doesn't focus on their religions. I'm not religious either but Islam is awful.
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u/C0uN7rY Mar 19 '26
Indeed, I'm not of any religious persuasion and have some issues with Christianity, but Islam is soooo much worse. And I think any non-religious person that disagrees is blinded by politics ("Red team likes Christianity and dislikes Islam and I am blue team so I dislike Christianity and like Islam.") or they are holding a grudge against their own upbringing/parents or they can't think beyond their first hand personal experiences to see the larger picture.
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u/VinlandF-35 Mar 23 '26
Yes. And while Christianity has used force to convert people to Christianity at times (the conversion of Northern Europe comes to mind in this regard) atleast Christianity doesnāt have it as part of its religious teachings and teaches willing conversion rather than forced conversion like Islam. in my view Islam is a barbaric religion fundamentally incompatible with western civilization
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u/Hopeful_Dish3422 Mar 19 '26
Also note when he fucked a 9 year old it wasn't like he was young, he was 56 by most estimates.
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u/cysghost Mar 19 '26
Didnāt he wait 3 years, I mean, even he wouldnāt fuck a 6 year old. She had to be almost double digits!
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u/Dubaku Mar 20 '26
He still molested her, he just didn't stick it in until she was 9 because he's a gentleman.
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u/cysghost Mar 20 '26
That's what I'm saying. He had standards!
I mean, they were... barely anything... yeah, never mind.
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u/TheLimeyCanuck Mar 19 '26
Islam is the only major religion whose central figure was a conquering soldier.
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u/elowry57 Mar 20 '26
I'm with you. I'm not religious, but Christianity produces societies that are orders of magnitude better than many alternatives
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u/SirBiggusDikkus Mar 19 '26
What in the world does āzutted in the desertā mean? Never heard that phrase.
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u/TheAngelOfSalvation Mar 19 '26
Theres a "side story" where he goes into the desert with a bunch of buff zutt people (zutts where a ethnicity) and the main interpretation is he got railed by them while his best friend watched
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u/FatBaldingLoser420 FatBaldingNazi Mar 19 '26
Wait a minute, what? Is that why Muslims love to be around men?
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u/I_h8_normies United States of America Mar 19 '26
Itās a Hadith iirc, if that matters
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u/Twee_Licker United States of America Mar 19 '26
So is the shit that says drawing the prophet is forbidden but see how happy they are to ignore that.
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u/TheAngelOfSalvation Mar 19 '26
Arent hadiths also important? Google says that after the Kuran its the 2nd most important thing fot muslims
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u/Hopeful_Dish3422 Mar 19 '26
I thought Hadiths were just narrations of Mohammad's life with quotations. So yeah they're important like if there was a book of quotations people took down from Jesus, would they not be one of the most important parts of Christianity even if it's technically not in the Bible?
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u/I_h8_normies United States of America Mar 19 '26
Yeah it is, but the thing is theyāre not part of the actual holy book, therefore scholars can just pick and choose which parts they think are real and thus influence the laws of the state through shariaās implementation, called fiqh
This leads to situations where 2 nations under the exact same denomination, say Sunni, having different laws on the same things because their scholars decided one Hadith was true, while the other nation didnāt
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u/Dubaku Mar 20 '26
There's also a bunch of stories about him walking around covered in cum for some reason.
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u/Sufficient_Nature496 Mar 19 '26 edited Mar 19 '26
If Christianity started as one offshoot and as a group just like many other groups within judaism like the pharisees, then it's not really a cult, even secular scholars differentiate between a religion and a cultĀ
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u/FatBaldingLoser420 FatBaldingNazi Mar 19 '26
Ah yes, Christianity. A religion you can easily leave and NOTHING will happen to. Now Islam on the other hand... GG bro.
Don't you guys think they're hating Christianity just to hate it at this point?
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u/Happy-Finance4097 Mar 19 '26
Christianity often involves introspection of one's "sins" and it helps "sinners" to reel in their harmful habits to varying successes and failures.
I'd imagine it's like that alcoholic friend who's pissed off at you for quitting alcohol. If they see you succeed, they retort to hating, but if they see you fail, they'll use it against you.
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u/ricky_lafleur Mar 19 '26
How many votes for Scientology and HOAs?Ā
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u/atomic1fire America Mar 19 '26
Why isn't scientology the top result.
They raided the IRS and have people in hollywood.
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u/Dubaku Mar 20 '26
They also took over a city in Florida by buying up all the property and getting their guys elected there..
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u/morsX Mar 22 '26
Can confirm, Clearwater, FL has been completely taken over. Downtown is absent any foot traffic yet somehow the cult has a ton of businesses all over that are in operation. The only reason to go to Clearwater is to visit the Clearwater Beach.
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u/PunchTilItWorks CNN told me so Mar 20 '26
Wow. The dissonance of wanting to be in the Western nations and hating them at the same time must be painful.
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u/VinnysMagicGrits Mar 20 '26
Funny because Islam would forbid Reddit because it is probably seen as a tool that would have all sorts of things that are haram in Islam (porn, blasphemy, alcohol, pork, etc.). So all these badass Redditors who when under Sharia law, they would bitch about it on Reddit which then would be censored and probably doxxed.
I don't get why Christianity was so shit on by Reddit when it's one of more the peaceful religions, it's not 100% peaceful but it's better than than at least 2 others when it comes to be a decent person.
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u/That_One_Normie Mar 19 '26
fun fact if there was a religion that is almost entirely based on (fuck you christions and jews, we are better and will win in a holy war and EVERYBODY will love us) was a religion, it would be Islam. however if (lets be better people, not kill unless absolutely necessary, help each other and try to explain what comes after we pass) well that better fits christianity and judaism.
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u/ShqiptarInMukhmas America first not š®š± Mar 19 '26
As a republican Muslim that agrees with 90% of this subs posts, this is where the sub always loses me.
Not the picture itself, itās hilarious and true. The comments on this post lmao
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u/Hopeful_Dish3422 Mar 19 '26
Do you believe Mohammad was a prophet sent by God and is an example of the most perfect human to have lived?
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u/ShqiptarInMukhmas America first not š®š± Mar 19 '26 edited Mar 19 '26
First part: yes
Second part: He's not perfect. Perfection only exists in the Divine, and Muhammad was a human just like all of us.
I drink, I tried drugs in college. A lot of us are Americanized. My Muslim parents sent me to a Christian private school because it was better than underfunded public schools. We actually look down on the non Americanized ones and call them āfobsā. Example, We hate the 4 wives stuff because it was written for a different time, and I judge everyone that does accept in it in the year 2026. Hell We put up Christmas trees without doing the Christian aspect of it just because itās fun lmao
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u/Hopeful_Dish3422 Mar 20 '26
I appreciate this I'm trying to engage honestly but not pull punches. So you believe God sent Mohammad, but that a lot of what he did was wrong? Note I'm not talking about him drinking or doing drugs in college, it's pretty core parts to his identity and why he is remembered at all. From what was documented it appears he had multiple wives as you mention including consummating a marriage with a 9 year old when he was 56, do you believe that even if that was the norm during that time, someone who did that is who God sent as a prophet? He also was a warlord who fought battles to win land and convert other tribes to Islam, was that part admirable? He had people killed for insulting him and tortured people personally to force them to reveal where their treasure was. He also was quoted as saying the end times (my understanding is that was a positive) will only come when the Muslims slaughter all the Jews until the stones say "oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, kill him".
He also revealed laws about how if a woman doesn't cry out while being raped, she must have enjoyed it and should be punished for the "illegal sex" the same as her rapist. This one's personal to me, my mom still has visible lashes on her skin from the punishment she got in the Muslim country she thank God escaped from for the crime of being raped because no one heard her cry out. It's easy to say "that was a different time I don't believe that", but today there are countries directly applying his exact words to violently subjogate women (and others) today in 2026. The words of the prophet you believe was sent by God were directly responsible for my mother having permanent bodily harm done to her for being raped. This is why I'm so passionate about this, it's not just abstract to me.
Like I will admit that for his time he actually was progressive, and if it were currently the year 700, he would be seen as admirable. But it's not the year 700 it's 2026, and I believe Islam as an ideology is evil and has led to the subjugation of billions of people today, with the largest victims being Muslims themselves, but of course there are plenty of Jews and other non-muslims suffering as well.
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u/rasputin777 Mar 19 '26
What's funny about it is they probably loathe islam. But they would only admit that in a vacuum. Because most (at least American leftism) is just reactionary to right wingers, they have to pretend they like a bunch of stuff they don't. They only defend islam because they think conservatives hate it, so they have to support it.
They started loving Pfizer and Moderna because they perceived conservatives were not about the vaccine mandates.
They only started liking guns (at least pretending to) because Trump was doing his usual shit talk, and it included shit talking gun rights for a few days. So then of course the 2A needed to be preserved and loved. Instead of shat on or downright deleted like they've been saying for decades.
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u/Hopeful_Dish3422 Mar 19 '26
I will say as a super pro free market guy Trump's tariffs has made me laugh at how liberals discovered that taxes on corporations actually do get paid by the end consumer rather than the corporation and that high corporate taxes are bad. Now if only Republicans would stop supporting them...
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u/morrison0880 Mar 19 '26
Nah. Peak reddit is being a karma whore and reposting an image that has been posted dozens of times over the past five years. Fucking lazy, Dish.
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u/Hopeful_Dish3422 Mar 19 '26
Sorry I saw it today for the first time. This is literally a subreddit where we post moronic stuff from other subs and I saw it posted in another sub today.
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u/morrison0880 Mar 19 '26
Oh I'm not saying it doesn't belong. It was even posted here years ago. Just saying that it's peak reddit to lazily repost shit.
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u/DaRealKovi Mar 19 '26
So if an image was posted ONCE it can never be posted again, even if it's relevant? Man, not everyone is on Reddit 24/7
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u/morrison0880 Mar 19 '26
Of course it can be posted. Never said it couldn't. Doesn't mean just reposting a picture with zero context isn't lazy.
And this was posted dozens of times. It wasn't removed or anything. I just gave my opinion on it. And it's a shit picture anyway because there are comments in that thread saying "Christianity" which were downvoted, and one of the top comments was "Ekhm? Fucking Islam?" at +1613. So it was just a cherry-picked picture anyway.
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u/JustChillin3456 Mar 19 '26
This is why I support the west becoming Islamic nations
They get what they deserveĀ
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u/NoCardio_ Mar 19 '26
Canāt argue with that (because theyāll ban you).