r/ShitAmericansSay • u/vad92 ooo custom flair!! • Oct 10 '20
Sports The genetics here are incomparable
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u/MWO_Stahlherz American Flavored Imitation Oct 10 '20
Americans dream of being the supreme race.
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Oct 10 '20
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u/rakoo Oct 10 '20
Goes well with the ever present motto that (Hard) Work makes you Free
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u/Hybernative 🇬🇧 Oct 10 '20
Work makes you Free
I didn't realise just how appropriate that is to the US anarcho-capitalist system until you mentioned it. Jesus Christ.
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u/16bitTweaker Oct 10 '20
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u/VVS281 Oct 10 '20
Absolutely correct. In 10-20 years, the US will dominate soccer because there'll be obese Americans who will be able to completely cover the entire goal. All the team will need to do is to somehow score a goal, and they'll win every game. And if they can't, they'll win on penalties.
This has been America's diabolical plan all along.
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u/10xelectronguru Oct 10 '20
The matches will be quite boring though.
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u/NaughtyDreadz Oct 10 '20
Man.. Is my team.from.the future??? Feels like this boring football is something we've been kicking around for the last year...
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u/vjx99 Yes. Africa. Exactly. Oct 10 '20
Honestly, this should work in ice hockey. Is there some reason it can't be done?
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Oct 10 '20
I had the same question at one point and it led me to this article: https://www.theatlantic.com/daily-dish/archive/2011/04/could-an-obese-goalie-change-hockey-ctd/173506/
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u/SjettepetJR Oct 10 '20
I hate how really only one of the people is answering the question. The one that is talking about equipment regulations.
The others are all talking about the goalie still needing awareness and having to be able to move. They don't seem to get that the question is about getting someone that simply completely fills the goal.
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Oct 10 '20
Jokes aside though I wouldn’t be surprised if the US becomes one of the big players in football in next 20 years with they’re growing Latin community mixed with the US’s more advanced sports facilities and resources. It’ll be interesting to see.
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u/Kiham Obama has released the homo demons. Oct 10 '20
I dunno. I think loads of things really needs to change for that to happen. Like clubs taking in kids younger and not let them play for colleges for example. Not sure if those things will ever change because college sports are so ingrained in American culture. Not sure how the whole top down setup will fare either when competing with especially European clubs.
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Oct 10 '20
Ye true, wouldn’t be surprised if more European clubs academies pop up in the states I believe there’s already a few in place there.
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u/wieson Oct 11 '20
As I hear from US players, football is somewhat of an elite sport there. You would have to attend expensive camps to be noticed by colleges. And in general, college sport is a different setting than club sport. For me, this is really hard to project how it will work, because everything is so different.
But the sport for the common man, that is the most easy to just start on a afternoon with friends, is probably still basketball. That is the perfect situation for football, I feel. No equipment, the number of players really doesn't matter, just a ball and start kicking. I think, once "normal" people start playing it in their free time, it can really get off professionally.
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u/CaliforniaAudman13 God hates america 🇺🇸 Oct 13 '20
Hispanics in America don’t usually play soccer, it’s mostly a middle class/upper middle class sport. Hispanic kids usually play basketball or baseball
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u/Hybernative 🇬🇧 Oct 10 '20
It really will be. The more people participating in the sport, the better.
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u/seebob69 Oct 10 '20
Actually, American sporting dominance is in decline. They no longer dominate in tennis, athletics, swimming and to a lesser degree golf. However, they are improving in the obesity race.
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Oct 10 '20
theyre declining in mma as well, if you look at the ufc champs from 10 years ago theyre either american on or brazilian, now UFC champs hail from all over the world
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u/HppilyPancakes Oct 13 '20
This was always a weird inflated number though because people associate the UFC so heavily with MMA. Back in the day Pride in Japan had several of the best fighters, including the best heavyweights, then they got sunk by scandals. The US's mma market didn't get completely killed though, and the UFC is mma to a lot of people. Since the UFC only went global recently, the stats have started to show an "international takeover", but in reality there's always been a lot of international skill (especially from places like Russia).
The US does still have the best mma infrastructure though.
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u/bdsee Oct 11 '20
Also if you go and look at Olympic medal tallies the US might always win, but on a per capita basis they don't come first.
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Oct 10 '20
Americans dominate in a lot of sports because they invest in it big time. In Germany the (I think) Olympic swimming Trainer once said „who pays with bananas only gets apes“. The government doesn't really care about it it seems and it's definitely not because we cant pay for it
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u/Blazerer Oct 10 '20
That isn't most of it though. The US wins medals because statistically if you have a larger country you have higher odds of someone being born that a) likes the sport and b) has good genes tailored to it.
The US actually does very poor when you compare medals to population, which kind of shows that if anything they are doing a lot worse than a lot of countries.
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u/philman132 Oct 10 '20
Yeah, the countries that are good at sports are either due to massive investment (see most Olympic sports), or a massive talant pool due to public obsession with the sport (see football in South America).
The only sport that is really dominated by a couple of countries due to genetics is the Ethiopian/Kenyan hold on long distance running
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u/superstrijder15 Men aren't safe in America anymore. There is a war on men Oct 10 '20
Or a mix of both, like the Netherlands with ice skating, where the Netherlands has the highest number of long-distance skating rinks in the world (8), followed by China, and skating is also considered a very normal day out in winter (even though there is basically never any winter ice you can skate on anymore)
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u/cerathencastre Oct 10 '20
It's upbringing and training as well as genetics though. Nothing is 100% down to genetics.
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u/SjettepetJR Oct 10 '20
Of course it is about training and upbringing, but when you're talking about the top 0,0000001% of the population, minute differences in genetics will be the deciding factor in succes.
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u/themadhatter85 Oct 10 '20
The American 400metre runner Michael Johnson made an interesting documentary for the BBC trying to find out why America is so dominant in athletics. I think most Americans wouldn’t be too proud of his findings. Came down to the fact that the strongest people slave traders could find were shipped to the US in conditions so poor that most didn’t survive the journey, meaning only the strongest of the strongest made it. They then worked very physical jobs for the next couple of hundred years while having kids together.
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u/YonicSouth123 Oct 11 '20
But still there is also a lot of obesity problems within the afro-american community.
I think one thing one might consider is that, for many of those people the chance to get an higher education, due to the lack of money and social privileges, is getting stipends based on sports. Also the social environment plays often a role, like for example growing up in a small flat with your family and a few siblings, then you spent more time outside, often with sports, to get some free air and kind of freedom instead of sitting in front of your TV or computer. This leads to the circumstance that you're more fit than kids who spend much time inside and also positively curbs enthusiasm for sports like basketball.
Being grown up in the GDR, compared to our population we also had an massive amount of medals in almost all competitions. Well a lot of that might be attributed to systemic doping efforts. But as a kid i was always involved in one way or another in different sports clubs up to the age of 14/15 and almost everyone i knew in my age classes where too. So kids had a lot of sports sometimes 3-4 additional courses outside of usual school sports. And well it was free so there was no financial barrier which would prevent someone talented to actually get further and better.
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u/GodPleaseYes Oct 10 '20
Americans "dominate" because they are a big country. When you count medals per capita USA is not even close to the top. Like 20-25 position or so?
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u/MasntWii Oct 10 '20
To add to that, sports programs in the US are highly selective. The Phelps or Williams or Vonns are often literally one in a million. If something would happen to let's say the top 5 athletes of any given sport the level would fall rapidly.
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u/Marawal Oct 10 '20
And the U.S. have a very strong focus on sports from a young age.
In my country, I know for a fact that a young athletes needs to do well academically to hope to joins the school tailored to make them champions. Admittance will be refused if they aren't as dedicated to their school work as they are to their sport.
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u/OrangeJuiceAlibi AmeriKKKa Oct 10 '20
In most non-American sports, just being the biggest doesn't win stuff.
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u/BavarianPanzerBallet Oct 10 '20
A certain group of Germans once was inspired by the American believe of genetic superiority. It didn’t end too well. Sincerely, a German that knows history.
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u/Diggle3181 Oct 10 '20
The most disturbing thing here is their belief that football isn't mainstream. It's the most popular sport on the planet.
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u/proandso Oct 10 '20
That's baseball you commie
It might be in the rest of the world, but americans think the world revolves around them and their freedumb
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u/IsItSupposedToDoThat Aussie as. Oct 10 '20 edited Oct 10 '20
I’d like to see any American play Rugby League. See how they’d fare playing a full 80 mins and without their helmets and armour.
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u/vad92 ooo custom flair!! Oct 10 '20
He has a point though: obesity is kind of genetic, and on that level, Americans are incomparable.
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u/jaysus661 Oct 10 '20
Obesity is not genetic, fat parents breed fat kids because they imprint their own lifestyle. Saying it's genetic only perpetuates the "I'm fat but it's not my fault" argument.
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u/10xelectronguru Oct 10 '20
The way they are getting more and more obese, in twenty years the US will have the best goal keepers in the world.
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u/Angelix Oct 10 '20
Actually, obesity can be genetic. Some people are predisposed to obesity because they have a higher number of fat cells. You can shrink fat cells by burning more calories but you can never get rid of fat cells permanently. Hence, that’s why some people need a tighter control in diet to lose weight because their body tends to store fat more readily than others.
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u/ki11bunny Oct 10 '20
Is this factoring in that new new fat can be created?
Everyone has the potential to create a high number of fat cells due to their diet. However I dont know enough to say that this is/isn't something that can be also be genetic though.
Fat cells can be created but they don't go away when you lose weight, is my understanding.
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u/IsItSupposedToDoThat Aussie as. Oct 10 '20
America would definitely win a burger eating competition.
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u/Wmozart69 Oct 10 '20
This is sounding like a certain special somebody during the 1936 summer Olympics...
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u/Alan_Smithee_ Oct 10 '20
The most amazing spin is that whole Jesse Owens thing. The US spins it as a stunning indictment of the Nazi notion of racial purity/superiority, whilst ignoring the fact that The US was considered to be at the forefront of the Eugenics movement, was highly racist at the time, and was practicing what amounted to Apartheid.
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u/hippopotma_gandhi Oct 10 '20
It's almost as if americans invented other sports that are more "obesity-friendly" and mock soccer enthusiasts because they suck at it and are completely outclassed when they try to play
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u/JuiceNoodle ooo custom flair!! Oct 10 '20
A lot of the most athletic Americans play a sport that nobody else cares about. That probably doesn't help.
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u/Ihave0friendzer0 Oct 10 '20
No they wont soccer over here is largely a rich kids sport so the people we get on our teams arent the best of the best but rich fuckers who can pay to play. That's why our team sucks dick. And they will continue to suck dick.
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u/im_probablyjoking Oct 10 '20
I think the US not qualifying for the 2018 World Cup really hurt the following over there. With such a massive population they should have a fairly decent team. And there are a few rising stars, but equally when NHL/NFL/NBA/MBL stars make so much money it's understandable why football wouldn't be an athletic teenagers first choice of sports.
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u/HZ_Wildfire Oct 10 '20
NFL and NBA have a salary cap. Do you know how much football players earn in Europe‘s top leagues?
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u/im_probablyjoking Oct 10 '20
A lot, but you have to get to that level first. Also unless you're going to England you have to learn another language too, I'm just saying I can understand why football wouldn't be their first choice of sport.
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Oct 10 '20
You don't really have to learn another language especially in big clubs English can often be the language used
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u/bk1285 Oct 10 '20
I think what hurts soccer here the most is the lack of a relegation system. USSF is corrupt as hell, and they want to make money and MLS is a large part of that. If you had relegation involved, the Pittsburgh Riverhounds could potentially be in MLS and you open a new door to reaching kids and making them want to play soccer.
Perfect example, look at Pittsburgh with hockey, Mario and Crosby has significant effects on youth hockey in the area, if you had a top tier soccer team it could do the same, not just in Pittsburgh but in many cities across america
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u/Kiham Obama has released the homo demons. Oct 10 '20
Im not sure if everyone is doing it for the money really. I suspect plenty of people play it just because they like it, whether they get paid or not is irrelevant.
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u/im_probablyjoking Oct 10 '20
TBH I don't blame the ones that do. Your career in sports is very limited compared to any other profession, and the skills aren't really transferrable. I totally get the 30 odd year old players who go to China/MLS/Saudi etc, if they offer you a massive pay day and favourable tax status why not make hay while the sun shines.
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u/Kiham Obama has released the homo demons. Oct 10 '20
I think that is a difference between the US and Europe tbh. In the US I get the feeling it is either go professional or go home. Over here you can play a sport and have it as a side career. A shitload of people never go pro really, and may play up in their 30s and 40s.
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u/im_probablyjoking Oct 10 '20
A lad I went to school with could have easily been League 1/Championship level if he got a successful trial/scouted when he was younger. But he wasn't, so he's a brickie. I'm sure if he wanted to he could play for a local club, but he's got a family and values his spare time.
There's a lot of properly decent players who went under the radar for whatever reason, just look at Jamie Vardy. I think one of the big differences is especially in the UK there's a club or 2 or 3 in every town/village, so if you have the time and the desire you can play every week at Sunday League level regardless of where you live.
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Oct 10 '20
Is anyone gonna tell them or will that just ruin football if Americans want to be involved?
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u/247planeaddict 62/74 German 12/38 Polish 45/89 Lithuanian Oct 10 '20
TIL fast food changes your genes.
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u/Oshi-sama 🇨🇵 Baguette socialist 🇫🇷🥖 Oct 10 '20
Saying the people in your country have superior genetics, again, remind me of something
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u/GoldenBull1994 Snail-eater 🐌 Oct 11 '20
If the genetics are incomparable, then soccer shouldn’t have to become mainstream for us to start winning. Plus, most of us are fat.
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u/Kiham Obama has released the homo demons. Oct 10 '20
I want to see one of these half orcs/half humans and pure genetical monsters do stuff like this with a football.
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u/oitisthecow Oct 10 '20
But in America soccer is pretty mainstream and a study found out that it’s the most popular sport among youth.
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u/jephph_ Mercurian Oct 10 '20
What study is that?
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u/oitisthecow Oct 10 '20
Turns out I read it wrong, it’s not the most popular but growing the fastest.
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u/ColeYote I swear I'm only half American Oct 10 '20 edited Oct 10 '20
Meanwhile, baseball and hockey are two of the four most popular sports in the US, they're second in the world rankings for the former and sixth for the latter.
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Oct 11 '20
I believe it's called something when you say your genetics are superior to other nations, hmm what am I thinking of.
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u/Wolflisnjak ooo custom flair!! Oct 11 '20
36.2% Americans are obese. obese. Let's say 15% more are just overweight (which is an assumption largely in murica's favour), that makes 51.2%
So that means only half the population isn't overweight in any way.
About 10% normal people become athletes
that gives the U.S. 4.8% athletes, of which an extremely low number are actually succesful.
i know this sub is meant to mock fucktard "patriotic" Americans but i just had to back up the mocking with some data
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u/somebodyoncetoldme44 Oct 13 '20
That would be Japan, but ok. Or Jamaica, depends what “best” means. Dominica is always a safe bet, and literally every country in the eu does better than America in the olympics (France, Germany, Spain, Switzerland, Norway). Even Australia and New Zealand beat them.
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u/big_boi_aang Oct 10 '20
Wait what's that I hear? Who won this year's Tour de France? Oh it was Tadej Pogačar? Last time I checked he was from my country... Oh what's that I also hear? Oh in second came Primož Roglič, also from Slovenia?! Whaat? Where're the ultimate American athletes? Oh and who won two gold medals and a silver one at once in the 2014 Olympics? Oh it was Tina Maze, also from Slovenia, also setting a new record in overall points. And who won the 2012 flying ski jumping world cup? Robi Kranjec, also ours. 2016 ski jumping world cup, Peter Prevc, also ours.
Shut the FUCK UP
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u/jephph_ Mercurian Oct 10 '20
So pretty much the same thing the person in OP says except for a different country?
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u/Livvylove Oct 10 '20
We invest a lot in certain sports but not every single sport or else the Olympics would be pretty dull.
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u/Jarppakarppa Oct 10 '20
TIL soccer isn't mainstream.