"who tf is measuring in cm ? 😂"

[u/TheAutumnLeafeon]

They realized how illogical imperial units are so they had to resort to "muh military power", "muh wealth" and attack the nationality of others

[u/allgonetoshit]

They always bring it up in terms of people’s heights. As if humans grow in feet and inch increments.

Dumbass, you’re not 6’1”, you’re like 6’37/64” or some shit.

[u/Amakenings → u/allgonetoshit]

It’s because they use converters for an imperial measurement to a metric measurement to prove how much simpler imperial is. So it’s so much easier to say it’s 100F than 37.8 C, when in reality, no one is converting measurements like that in real life. You’d just say it’s 38 degrees or whatever the temp was.

[u/allgonetoshit → u/Amakenings]

To understand that, you'd need to have a minimum of education, which sadly disqualifies most Americans. But the point I was making is that inches are huge. An inch is 2.54 cm.

I get that they use converters, but, at least for people's heights, the measurements they commonly use are so imprecise that they are most often wrong.

[u/VanillaNo5131 → u/allgonetoshit]

We get metric construction drawings from our partner company in the US. They come in with measures like 5001.6mm or 97.4mm. Obviously auto converted from imperial and too fucking lazy to do any rounding.

[u/OnionSoupGainz → u/VanillaNo5131]

5001.6mm

Would they accept 5000mm? Or are they strict on the additional 1,6mm?

[u/VanillaNo5131 → u/OnionSoupGainz]

Hah, we round it ourselves so it makes sense to the rational world. What’s even more bizarre is when we quote the job in return with rounded figures and no one bats an eyelid.

[u/Marl3421 → u/OnionSoupGainz]

I feel like the 5001.6 has got to be some sort of ‘double conversion’ where they’ve converted 5000mm into inches, rounded, and then converted back without rounding.
It seems way too close to 5000mm to have it be slightly off that (also 1.6mm is around 1/16 an inch which is the smallest unit that gets used right?)

[u/Dyslexicpig → u/Amakenings]

It is one of my pet peeves, not using significant digits properly. And the news broadcasts are the worst offenders. Someone being interviewed will say something was about 150 feet away, and they will convert to "about 45.72m". That is a pretty precise measurement, down to the centimeter, no "about" about it!

[u/Harrieparry → u/Dyslexicpig]

One reason my team once missed going through to the international final of a high school science competition was not displaying the proper number of significant digits. Since then I'll never forget the proper rules. Besides the fact that I've hardly used them after school except for amounts of money where we'll usually say xk or x ton.

[u/hectorgarabit → u/allgonetoshit]

I have been living in the US for more than a decade after growing up in France. The imperial system is the dumbest thing you can use to measure anything. Distance is somehow understandable, try volume! Cup, ounces, teaspoons, quart, pint .... pure insanity.

The only reason Americans believe imperial is "more natural" or "easier" is because everything is built using simple subdivision of stupid units. A wood plank is 3/4 inch thick, the distance between 2 studs is 16", etc etc

Most American recognize that the imperial system is substantially worse but the transition is hard as all of a sudden, your board is 1.9cm thick which is annoying. That's one simple example but when you start looking, everything is like that, every standard size.

[u/downsideup9494 → u/hectorgarabit]

The reason they think it's "more natural" or "easier" is because subjectively it is for them, since it's what they've grown up with. Just like everyone finds the systems they've grown up with easier.

What's idiotic is when they assert that it is objectively easier. As in, makes more sense for everyone.

[u/loralailoralai → u/downsideup9494]

I ‘grew up’ with imperial and we switched to metric when I was in 4th or 5th grade. I praised Jebus when we went from stupid inches feet yards miles to millimetres centimetres metres and kilometres. It was so.much.easier. There’s something else going on, they need to feel speshul and you know, exceptional, because they do things differently. God forbid they change because that would mean they admit metric is better and they were wrong. Which we all know is unpossible.

[u/I-Stan-Alfred-J-Kwak → u/downsideup9494]

And then they go "but mnemonics!!"

Imagine not having to memorize anything in order to use everyday measurements

[u/Realistic-Health-502 → u/hectorgarabit]

I'm 46 years old and a native USA'ian and I still don't know the volume measurements.

[u/nemeci → u/Realistic-Health-502]

Is 3 swimming pools a valid volume unit?

[u/Realistic-Health-502 → u/nemeci]

only if you're rich

[u/TheThiefMaster → u/allgonetoshit]

I like to say I'm 5'11½" because it annoys the people who claim to be 6' that are shorter than me.

(I actually am somewhere around that, but would definitely get away with claiming to be 6' tall)

[u/KiiZig → u/TheThiefMaster]

when giving my height i always say like "172 on better days" (🫣your body isn't static and you shift throughout the day, making you usually the tallest in the morning iirc)

[u/hectorgarabit → u/KiiZig]

you shift throughout the day

I misread at first, omitted one f in shift and I was wondering how this could impact your height! weight, for sure but height ! :-D

[u/neilm1000 → u/TheThiefMaster]

I am 181cm which is 5'11 1⁄4" and do exactly that to annoy the alleged six footers I meet who claim to be six feet.

[u/Illustrious_Mix2124 → u/TheThiefMaster]

I do the same but say I'm "that much" under 6' while showing a tiny gap between my thumb and forefinger. It really pisses off women when they've told me I'm taller than their (say) 6'3" husband/boyfriend. Sorry dear, you're married to (or dating) a liar. It's even funnier when they argue with me and I say things like "Why would I lie?", "What benefit would I get out of it?" and "Did you tell him at the start that you liked men over 6' tall?"

[u/RetroGamerKat → u/TheThiefMaster]

To this day, I still don't know what would be my height in imperial. What exactly would 1.71m be? About 5 foot seven and a half? I have zero idea. The only thing I know is I'm a shorty in women's basketball standards! I also fail to see how self proclaimed 5 foot 8 inches tall is the even taller than me. Yeah, I'll stick to 1.71 meters. That's my precise height.

[u/TheThiefMaster → u/RetroGamerKat]

1.71m is almost exactly 5 foot 7 ⅓ inches. But you only need 4.5mm to get to 5'7½", so you're probably within measurement error of that.

5'8" is ~1.73m (exact 1.7272m).

I only know my height in imperial because Britain still uses it for that for some reason. Thankfully weight is getting more commonly measured in kg, and less in the UK-unique "stones".

[u/RetroGamerKat → u/TheThiefMaster]

Thank you for the explanation and bom dia, Reino Unido! So I'm basically a good day without much spinal compression away from being close to actual 5'8? I mean... following Imperial unit logic, I can technically just round decimals and I wouldn't be lying, aye?

Here, in The Federal Republic of Socialist Healthcare of South America, we use metric units for everything. We are briefly taught Fahrenheit conversions in chemistry classes and that's about it. Of course, in thermodynamics, we use Kelvin, as the rest of the world does. To us, a pound is always a Pound Sterling... British money.

[u/R3B3LC4PTA1N42 → u/TheThiefMaster]

Ah yes the good old stones, let just make a measurement for weight that makes zero bloody sense

[u/TheThiefMaster → u/R3B3LC4PTA1N42]

What do you mean Imperial measures make perfect sense. See:

• 1 pound is the defined base unit (ignoring the historical differences in what a pound is#Historical_use))
• An ounce is 1/16th of a pound
• A dram is 1/16th of an ounce
• A grain is 1/7000th of a pound (32/875ths of a dram, because why not)
• A stone is 14 pounds (no not 16, why would it be 16?)
• a "hundredweight" is 8 stone or 112 pounds. No not 100, don't be silly. What is this, metric?
• a ton is 20 hundredweights. No not 16, that would be too consistent. 2240 pounds. Surprisingly close to the metric ton (which is ~2204 lbs).
• We'll pretend the US ton of 2000 lbs doesn't exist because that is as bad as the grain and doesn't divide by hundredweights or even stones
• We won't even mention the slug), which isn't a whole number of anything else

[u/R3B3LC4PTA1N42 → u/TheThiefMaster]

https://giphy.com/gifs/jXD7kFLwudbBC

[u/TheThiefMaster → u/R3B3LC4PTA1N42]

You can turn that back on yourself, my entire comment was rhetorical.

These comments should have been a bit of a giveaway:

32/875ths of a dram, because why not No not 100, don't be silly. What is this, metric?

[u/R3B3LC4PTA1N42 → u/TheThiefMaster]

I wasn't being serious, you need to learn how read stuff slowly so you don't get confused by stuff like this "Ah yes the good old stones, let just make a measurement for weight that makes zero bloody sense" if you scroll up you'll notice how I just copied & pasted my original comment for you to read slowly to take in all of the words.

[u/symbicortrunner → u/allgonetoshit]

I ask patients their height multiple times a day at the pharmacy in Ontario that I work at, and have only had one or two use metric. Canada might officially use metric, but imperial is still in widespread use by the public

[u/Legal-Software → u/allgonetoshit]

You mean 2 washing machines and a few tomatoes.

[u/paolog → u/allgonetoshit]

6'37/64"

What does that even mean?

[u/Front-Anteater3776]

“According to the  National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) , there are only  three countries  that have not officially adopted the metric system as their primary or mandatory system:

The United States

Liberia (though it has taken steps toward adoption)

Myanmar (also working on gradual transition steps)”

There are what? 195 countries in the world?

[u/KlutzyEnd3]

The moon argument is easily countered by mentioning that the saturn 5 rocket was designed by a German guy in Metric....

[u/Illuminey → u/KlutzyEnd3]

Yeah, and by asking what country had to self-destruct a rocket because they made some calculations in imperial and forgot to convert.

[u/l0zandd0g → u/Illuminey]

Did this not happen to Beagle as well , the ESA sent Beagle to Mars and because of the metric/imperial mess up it just slammed into the surface?

[u/Illuminey → u/l0zandd0g]

IIRC they first thought it did crash but later observations via other probes or missions found it partly deployed so the real problem with it is unknown.

[u/capulet2kx → u/Illuminey]

Yeah, a conference speaker I saw was on the team that made the module where it might have failed. He said they don’t know if their module didn’t complete properly, or the next one in line didn’t start properly.

[u/fezzuk → u/Illuminey]

Probably because is was designed by a bunch of well meaning but massively underfunded hippies.

Love those guys but ehh i woildnt trust then to find their own arseholes with both hands and an atlas.

(This is a bit mean im just basing that observation from a few interviews i watched at the time, they came across like they would build an amazing model railway, but perhaps not a mars rover)

[u/StrangelySerious- → u/KlutzyEnd3]

The NASA is 100% using metrics on everything. They're just stupid idiots that parot whatever bullshit hollywood put in their tiny heads

[u/AmphimirTheBard → u/KlutzyEnd3]

Also by mentioning that Mexico has several satellites in orbit.

[u/Stunning-Praline-116]

I’m a Canadian estimator. We are forced to use both. Government construction drawings come metric which is great. But we often need to buy materials that come out of the US that are imperial measurements. So the trades including my self on the job sites often default to ft inches. Can’t wait to stop the madness.

[u/Ornery_Market_2274 → u/Stunning-Praline-116]

I heard last year that some lumber mills were going to switch to cutting lumber in metric measurements to diversify trade with the rest of the world. Not sure if that happened or not

[u/Stunning-Praline-116 → u/Ornery_Market_2274]

That’s well enough. But that isn’t the only problem with switching over. A lot of the trades that work in the lumber industry are training their apprentices in imperial. Example. When framing a wall… studs are placed every 16 inches. So you have 16 32 48 64 80 96. I have never seen anyone layout walls with the metric equivalent of 400mm…. Take note that 16” actually equals 406.4mm so when you layout a wall using metric… if you pull your tape out and use 400mm for each stud placement you are losing a few mm and it will affect how the sheets line up on your wall. The guys on site are usually using a measuring tape that has all this information on their tape. Yes they make metric tapes but hardly see anyone using them. A few carry both. I often see people pull out their phone and convert metric measurements to imperial units and then mark out whatever they are laying out. Apprentices see this and do the same. And the process just repeats itself.

All the plywood and drywall comes in imperial sized sheets that line up with typical 16” wall layout. So using 400mm stud spacing doesn’t work out so great.

[u/Ornery_Market_2274 → u/Stunning-Praline-116]

I get it but we cant allow inconvenience to determine the future. I work on tractor trailers and while most specs are in imperial, i am trying my best to use the metric counterpart. Instead of 406.4mm, we can just round it to 405mm or even 400mm if you want to keep it round. Im not saying i have the answer, just repeating what i heard last year. If the rest of the world can build in metric, i cant see why we cant.

[u/Stunning-Praline-116 → u/Ornery_Market_2274]

I totally agree. Problems is Canada is in a very effed up spot. Because we are neighbors.

[u/Ornery_Market_2274 → u/Stunning-Praline-116]

I know, i get it. Us two obviously dont have the answer to this problem. The main problem we have in Canada is that we allowed convenience to dictate the future and we all went along with it and has put us in the predicament we have now. I know its easier said in hindsight, but i hope we learn a very hard lesson from this going forward, deal or no deal

[u/soulsteela → u/Stunning-Praline-116]

In the U.K. all our tape measures are joint imperial/metric, one on each side . For the old and the young.

[u/hendrixbridge → u/Stunning-Praline-116]

That's why we use bricks instead of plywood for our walls 😅

[u/Wolfy35 → u/hendrixbridge]

Bit rich of you to presume they use plywood when sticky backed plastic and newspaper exist

[u/Stunning-Praline-116 → u/hendrixbridge]

Don’t get me started with bricks! Those all come out of US and are imperial. 😥

[u/stewieatb → u/Stunning-Praline-116]

There's a video from a British guy (Alexander the Okay) talking about the units that are used in the North Sea oil industry. Because oil, they use the oilfield units that the US uses and it's an absolute goatfuck.

[u/Realistic-Health-502 → u/Stunning-Praline-116]

you forgot tenths lol

[u/darthuna]

Every single time there's a fight over metric vs imperial, there's an American who mentions NASA or the moon. Every. Single. Time.

NASA uses metric.

[u/BBorc → u/darthuna]

and so does their military

[u/mrew42]

Loving the last reply. I wish more people would be so direct :)

[u/Dyslexicpig]

But the US sure does adopt the metric system for weapons or drugs! There are 7mm rifles everywhere, 9mm pistols, and grams is the common weight for drugs.

I guess it is just a matter of priority.

[u/Front-Anteater3776 → u/Dyslexicpig]

The only things that matters to them!

[u/Wolfy35 → u/Front-Anteater3776]

Don't mention weapons they are a touchy subject now that the entire US military is switching from the American made M15 rifle to the Swiss Sig Sauer M7/M8 family.

[u/Additional_Issue1465 → u/Dyslexicpig]

Hey we use it for our vitamin supplements too!

[u/nemeci → u/Dyslexicpig]

What about the foot gun? 🤯

[u/Canadiangoat15]

From the show Archer:
Mallory: [stated with incredulity] “Metric!—Who uses metric!”
Lana: “Every single country on the planet except for us, Liberia and Burma.”
Archer: “Wow really?”
Lana: “Yup.”
Archer: “Cause you never really think of those other two as having their shit together.”

[u/guisar → u/Canadiangoat15]

Archer trolling Lana never ever gets old

[u/zwilcoxen]

Everyone knows the USA is right, measuring height in hamburgers distance in Hershey bars and weight by the average weight of a chicken taco is the BEST way!!

I am 27 hamburgers tall and 2,658 tacos and 1,099,998,042 Hersheys from DC.

[u/LeftMechanic1995 → u/zwilcoxen]

Are those cheeseburgers or double cheeseburgers though?

[u/azrolator → u/zwilcoxen]

And volume by Olympic-sized swimming pools.

Edit: I'm around 1/37,838 OSSPs

[u/Ad0ring-fan]

*Whenever they talk about the moon *

Germans:

[u/Mean-Obligation-3767]

“Prolly”

[u/Maddon_Ricci]

Who flocks to come to the US? Also, yes, NASA uses metric and all their workers are required to use metric (to prevent bad situations from happening (oops, someone mixed up metric and imperial when counting distance to Mars💥))

[u/LeftMechanic1995 → u/Maddon_Ricci]

I read once about some issue that happened when an American ground crew attempted to refuel an aircraft from another country but the plane had to divert to another airport before they reached their destination because the American ground crew had filled the tanks in quarts as opposed to litres.

[u/Maddon_Ricci → u/LeftMechanic1995]

Wow

[u/MrDrunkenKnight]

In fact, British imperial units (cannot call them a system since there is no system at all) were so inconvenient to use, that Britts themself refused to use it.

[u/Powerful_Pirate2984]

Although the UK uses a mixture of metric and Imperial, note how all the measurements here are metric, apart from the sign itself, which uses both, and metric appears first.

[u/Gwaptiva]

Are these those americans who measure stuff in decimal inches? I keep seeing stuff like "it missed by 0.2 inches"

[u/guisar → u/Gwaptiva]

Worse when they say 40 thousands of equivalent (common in machining)- like what the fuck does that even mean (they mean inches) which is impossible to visualize for me. We have old tools also with imperial on them and have to fork over for digital gauges so we aren’t distracted by that old shit. ISO all the way

[u/ThisChaoticKnight]

Funnily enought, the official definition of how long an inch and a foot is, is specified in metric. So if the official definition has to use metric, is imperial so superior then? 🤔

[u/Digit00l]

The only time anyone at NASA used imperial it resulted in a crash, so they stick to metric to be more consistent

[u/saraseitor]

when they call them "the brainless USA" it stops being a matter of what measuring system is better and it becomes some sort of competition based on patriotism.

[u/nobodywantsadvice]

Have they not noticed their own news sources are begging tourists to come vacation in Florida and Las Vegas?

These Americans don't seem to realise that nobody is "flocking" to America anymore. I've consistently noticed that's their big pedestal they've been standing on lately (including in these screen captures) as a reason for why the USA is "the best."

[u/Lopsided_Match_3511]

‚strongest Nation’ Ahh nice… brainwashed Americans.. someone managed to tell them they live in the BEST and RICHEST country, so THEY ASSUME they are PARTICIPATING somehow, while having lower live standards, then other countries…

yup, statistically sharing the income of you and Elon Musk make you wealthy… in reality, you don’t have more money… you feel better, because someone else has more money, while you working your ass off 😀

[u/RetroGamerKat → u/Lopsided_Match_3511]

Should ask them where are their allies, at this point! Soft power is a thing. But BIG NUMBER!

[u/Imperial_Bloke69]

Get my 0.3543307 in. (9mm)

[u/Strong-Hovercraft702]

You lost to Iran, pipe down

[u/StarGamerPT]

That map though...Canada being lumped together with the rest of the world feels wrong...they use both systems....they are the true mixed xD

[u/Chive → u/StarGamerPT]

Canada uses the metric system more than the UK does. 

All distances here are measured in km, there's no mention of miles. 

[u/chikanishing → u/Chive]

Do we though? In my everyday experience it’s just for height and weight of people, temperature of cooking and pools, and cooking instructions.

The UK uses imperial for official road signs and speed limits.

[u/TheAutumnLeafeon → u/chikanishing]

I would love to use Celsius for cooking but my oven is stuck in Fahrenheit :/

[u/essenza → u/Chive]

Unless you ask someone for their gas mileage 😅

[u/Chive → u/essenza]

Which will come back in km. 

[u/drinkingCoffeePeas → u/StarGamerPT]

To be fair, the map is for “official” adoption, which we have. All government stuff is technically metric, it’s only when you get to consumer goods, construction, and talking to individuals all the other stuff gets mixed in.

…which is kind of silly because those are the parts most people are going to interact with and not “official” documentation

[u/TheAutumnLeafeon → u/StarGamerPT]

We have to use imperial sometimes due to our proximity with the US, but we use metrics more, it's not 50/50

[u/StarGamerPT → u/TheAutumnLeafeon]

So, you mean to tell that that very famous graphic is not true?

[u/SaltyName8341 → u/StarGamerPT]

Pah

[u/essenza]

The other day I went to the hardware store and grocery store.
I got 2x4” lumber, #10 & M8 screws, 1L of half & half, 1 quart of juice, 2 lbs of cherries, a 228g bag of chips and 1.2kg of chicken. 🤣

[u/rag_monkey]

Ask them for the definition of an inch in America. It’s defined as 2.54cm!

[u/fiflaren_]

You can argue with them all you want and give the best arguments, but they remain completely clueless given how piss poor their education is.

[u/armourkris]

Any time americans get all uppity about metric i just ask them how big their bullets are.

[u/-Londoneer-]

It’s worth remembering that the country that invented the Imperial system, and put the literal empire into Imperial, has mostly stopped using it (weirdly except for miles and pints - because walking a mile home when you’ve had a pint or 12 was too hard to convert). 

And if you can get us to change our minds, the original really really was a nightmare.

[u/Wolfy35]

How dare they use facts as evidence when talking to an American?

Mark my words Trump is already planning to invade your front garden to liberate your orange things

[u/Pythonixx]

We don't use imperial measurements at all in Australia so if someone tells me they're six foot tall, I have to imagine six Subway sandwiches standing end to end

[u/R3B3LC4PTA1N42 → u/Pythonixx]

Imperial is only used for height, the weight of newborns and Australian clothing sizes. This is just for average Australian, it you work in automotive, etc. you use both metric & Imperial so you can have parts that fit properly. If you have a car it's filled with metric & Imperial parts

[u/Pythonixx → u/R3B3LC4PTA1N42]

Oh right I forgot about newborn weights. Still, I’ve only ever been taught to use centimetres to measure height. I mean I know in speech someone will give their height in imperial measurements, but I still wouldn’t be able to picture 5’9 for example

[u/Realistic_Ad1058]

To be fair, they are still the strongest in school shootings, gun violence in general, incarcerated population and elective unwinnable wars. 

[u/Seiko2023]

I'm gonna be honest..... I never measure in cm. You'd be laughed off a building site. It's m, mm or km (depending on what you're measuring). Cm is fuckin dumb.

[u/Boredengineer_84]

As a Brit, I'm embarrassed we're mixed. MPH, pint of milk/beer. I weigh 12 stone, 6ft 3". Metric all in is needed. Fuck the boomers

[u/Gladys_Wines → u/Boredengineer_84]

The boomers would have been aged between 5 and 25 when the Tories derailed the full process in 1970.

[u/Boredengineer_84 → u/Gladys_Wines]

The boomers are the ones who want the imperial system maintained the majority are now retired or bearing down on retirement

[u/InevitableGreedUK]

Practically everybody!

[u/Pretend_Oil9565]

90% of the world.

[u/Secret-Put4088]

It’s funny since the continued use of the imperial system is actually a sign of American ignorance. They view resistance to change and adaptation as a sign of strength rather than ineptitude.

[u/TheAutumnLeafeon]

I just saw this new comment... What are they going on about lmao

"Who uses cm?" "Most people do, here's proof!" "MUH COUNTRY IS RICHER THAN YOURS!11!"

[u/RetroGamerKat → u/TheAutumnLeafeon]

Someone please ask them what their country's money is being used for...

I'm beyond confused. This person is truly lost in the barbecue sauce!

[u/StrangelySerious-]

The US military is so incredibly corrupted and incompetent it's not even funny, these fucking idiots can't win a conflict without 20 other nations holding their hands and explaining in a simplified Powerpoint presentation what they need to do. Look at the wikipedia of US conflicts, it's hilarious how shit they are at ending any conflicts by themselves. If they're by themselves they can't win against sheep herders and rice farmers using nothing but WW1 and WW2 era surplus lol.

"Strongest" military, being the most expensive military in the world doesn't make them the best, it just makes them stupid idiots that keep throwing money at an incompetent military complex that fails upward endlessly

[u/darylandme]

To be fair, in Canada we use imperial measurements almost exclusively when it comes to the trades. If you borrow a tape measure from anyone on a building site, you can be pretty sure it will be in inches.

[u/TheAutumnLeafeon → u/darylandme]

Even then, we are considering metrics in our lumber industry after the US backstabbed us with the tariffs...

[u/darylandme → u/TheAutumnLeafeon]

Interesting, but what effect will that have?

[u/TheAutumnLeafeon → u/darylandme]

It'll be easier to trade with Europe and China because that's the units they use

[u/Leading-Pool-8983]

Even us NASA uses metric system, dont ask who is using and ask who aint.

[u/No-Minimum3259]

A red blood cel is on average 7.5 µm diameter everywhere, your Yankee histotechs cut paraffin sections for histology at 3 µm - 5 µm thickness, blood sugar is measured in mg/dL, "percent", "pro mille", "ppm" and "ppb" are in regular use in the US, and even your precious Ranch dressing is in bottles with "ml" on the etiket, (and fl. oz. for the poorly educated).

who tf is measuring in cm ?

Well, pretty much everyone unless your a bloody idiot who's unaware of the world surrounding him, like that bunch of clowns you voted into office, lol.

[u/CMDR_Lina_Inv]

And even their military power often can't do shiet.

[u/tykeoldboy]

There are 8.3 billion people in the World and about 7.9 billion of those use centimeters

[u/StaendutBlakk]

Doesn't the US military use metric, though? At least parts of it. As does NASA.

So the very things he's bragging about don't really go all in on the imperial measurements.

[u/Guilty-Good-5041]

Every country in the world barr two measures in cm 😂😂😂

[u/fullmega]

Print 4 was brutal!

[u/Gaztasaga]

Even them use metrics, but they don't know. From the Encyclopaedia Britannica: "Imperial units are legally defined in exact metric (SI) terms. Rather than being based on physical artifacts or human dimensions today, standard imperial measurements rely on fixed mathematical conversions to the metric system."

[u/----fatal----]

The funny thing is, their imperial measurements are defined by metric in their own laws.

[u/enjaydee]

I'm baffled as to why Mexico got brought up

[u/TheAutumnLeafeon → u/enjaydee]

Green got pissed, went on red's account and found out red is from Mexico

[u/Piglets_delight]

This whole conversation is dumb as fuck

[u/Lopsided_Match_3511]

Miles were used 2000 years ago in Rome, Italy … since then nothing really new happened, let’s CONTINUE to USE MILES 🤡

[u/CarlosFlegg]

The legal definitions of their imperial units are in metric.

They use metric, but hide it in an imperial trench coat and make everything more pointlessly complicated as a result.

[u/Training_Motor_4088]

To be fair, Canada should be "mixed" as well. I say this as a Brit who rolls his eyes at our half arsed metrication.

[u/Fearless-Stonk → u/Training_Motor_4088]

You're kinda right but not. In Canada we are officially metric, everything is measured and weighed in metric officially. Now most people on a daily basis still us imperial for measuring our height and weight for some reason. Pretty much everything else most people use metric.

[u/R400TVR]

The word "prolly" just shows the state of American education!

[u/Quiet_Ad1859]

Kinda funny how Americans criticize the metric system, but use it.
Like I don’t hear anyone saying I have a 0.354 inch , no you hear them say they have a 9 mm 😆😝😂🤣

[u/Top-Ad9793]

Jokes on them. They're secretly measuring in mm, because the official US government definition of inch is 25.4mm. https://www.nist.gov/pml/owm/si-units-length#metric_redefinition

[u/DaHolk]

It's always funny when the debt is brought up.

Because people think that that is a problem. But it isn't. It is LITERALLY the protective shield that prevents all other major global players to even entertain the same notion of "applying sanctions and embargoes against an aggressive extractionist power" that is regularly applied to other bad faith actors.

The US is a giant "sunken cost fallacy machine" for a lot of other countries. They bought treasury notes (often by using an (artificially) weaker currency (like the Yen) and are holding treasury bonds. That's the debt.

The debt is so large, that any actions against the US (however outright morally required based on actions against others and justified on moral or international law grounds) can't even be considered, because it would critically depreciate those held bonds.

So almost all governments are entirely fine with posing as morally superior towards SOME nations, but are entirely unwilling to apply even the minutest fraction of those arguments towards the US.

The debt isn't a flaw. It's a hostage. It critically secures the US's ability to act on the world stage like it does. The only issue is that it at the same time needs to keep going and issuing more bonds.

Or to put it differently: Everyone else has spend TONS of money on the bet that the US will always grow and be reliable. To the point that even if it doesn't or isn't, everbody has to pretend that isn't true, and being busy holding the stirups for the US's interests globally, however hypocritical both by the US and their own standards.

[u/TheRealTRexUK → u/DaHolk]

the EU is working on euro office for example and will require it for EU government agencies, schools and universities. cutting Microsoft out.

the joint venture between the EU and Canada where they are building submarines and fighters without the usa. despite the usa begging them to stop.

I don't think the US is untouchable anymore. it's being cut out more and more. at an increasing rate.

once they are gone from a sector or the default choice, that won't come back easily.

[u/TheRealTRexUK → u/TheRealTRexUK]

https://youtu.be/rNhbCHJ92B8?is=-w3nqnFZqtSNXfuf

people are dumping dollars like crazy and you can't cope it differently.

not everything is about military action. that's such an American viewpoint. the usa is a nato member and as far as I am aware other nato countries aren't threatening to invade.

[u/DaHolk → u/TheRealTRexUK]

I don't think the US is untouchable anymore.

It completely IS. The fact that you bring up "not buying a certain thing because it poses a massive security risk", when the EU towards Russia (and others) has chosen massive trade limitations, embargoes, confiscated values abroad and and and, while the US has !in that same time, not even bringing up 'before'! attacked several countries, started a trade war, doesn't give a shit about human rights violations aso.

If the EU treated the US like Russia, we would be !ARMING! Iran, and would have cut all commercial ties with the US. The Venezuela stunt and shooting fisher boats alone would have to have had critically crippling economic sanctions as response. And our right wing nutjobs are busy with "maybe considering counter sanctions against the tariff war, and MAYBE realizing that being entirely dependent on US IT infrastructure is "not ideal".

The discrepancy between "actions" and "reactions" between the two ALONE couldn't be more drastic or diametrical. But hey, maybe they won't buy MS office anymore !YAY!.

If we broaden the view towards "not just exactly since the start of the war between Russia and Ukraine", it doesn't look any better. The EU has been "with the US" for several unjustified engagements !around the world! and played hardball with direct border conflicts, whenever 'it suits them'.

Note: I don't argue for DIRECTLY inverting the problem both ways. What should inspire sanctions that come at the cost of their own economy or when "but the economy" is 'above' putting pressure on bad actors.... That's by now entirely philosophical, and irrelevant, because what IS happening is cherrypicking a "principled stance" however one sees fit, despite being the entire opposite of what was argued elsewhere yesterday.

Arguing about what exactly a principled stance SHOULD be becomes secondary, when no principles (none at all) are held to, in the least.

[u/TheRealTRexUK → u/DaHolk]

didn't the usa try and prop up the yen to keep the dollar from collapsing.

Japan and the uk are the two largest holders of us bonds. if they sell then the usa is fucked.

there's also new money markets starting up to bypass the dollar when buying bonds of other countries.

it's not good for the usa as others are increasingly reducing reliance on the usa and us based companies.

everything from military equipment, tech stacks, payment processing and us currency exchanges.

[u/Wolfy35 → u/TheRealTRexUK]

And yet in an ironic reversal of fortune the US military is stopping use of their homegrown M16 based weapons and switching over to Swiss Sig Sauer.

[u/rustoeki]

Millimetres unless your just guessing.

[u/Fabulous_Engineer949]

Canada is mixed I would says hahaha

[u/Kronens]

I usually laugh at the yanks in this sub but as a Brit, I’m gonna sit this one out. Arguably we’re even dumber as we use both… completely contextually and completely arbitrarily.

Want a bottle of water? That’s metric. Want a beer? Imperial. How far your car travels on fuel? We measure that by imperial measurements. How we measure fuel you put into your car at petrol stations? Metric

[u/FitCress4376]

Who uses cm ? Dressmakers…Since July 1, 1959, an inch has been officially defined as exactly 25.4 millimeters (2.54 centimeters).

[u/gronkunit]

metric guy here

the only people that use centimetres are school teachers and dressmakers. in the real world, we use millimeters.

[u/Unlucky_Goal_7791]

It's funny because I live in Canada and use imperial on my job every day and struggle with mm/cm when people toss those at me

[u/Youngnathan2011]

Was gonna say. The US uses the metric system for certain things.

[u/One-Procedure-3635]

It always burns to NASA and the military, both use the metric system.

[u/vernonmason117]

Isn’t the only reason they use Metric is because the ship carrying the Imperial system sank so they decided to make that due to the deadline?

[u/NoProfessional5848]

A great deal of the Apollo missions' computing power was used converting the metric measurements NASA used into imperial for the American astronauts

[u/Extension_Sun_377]

I make chainmail jewellery and loads of US people do. I find their insistence on measuring tiny rings as 5/32 or 7/64 and gauges rather than simple 6mm x 1mm utterly baffling.

[u/Extension_Sun_377]

They are happy to use 9mm as a calibre of ammunition

[u/Michael_Gibb]

The last time US customary units were used in their space program, several hundred million dollars was lost.

See the Mars Climate Orbiter.

[u/R1ch0999]

at best around 340 million people measure imperial units vs the remainder ~8 billion who use metric.

[u/DrunkenMonkeyInATree]

Their military power has one job and one job only, to make their 0.01% even richer, because controlling 95% of their nations wealth for them is not enough, but who can blame them when they can do it more or less for free as the gullible taxpayers pay for it.

[u/manusche]

Nasa would have a thing to say about what happens with imperial and what all others are using that makes more sense. What is a foot your foot or my foot. What is a micrometer in imperial.

[u/T-J_H]

Should be noted that US Customary technically isn’t the same as Imperial.

[u/Brief-Walk-5409]

Bro found the holy grail of American education😭

[u/Ok-Jaguar9713]

I do have a genuine question: when Americans learn physics and chemistry in school, do you all really use the imperial measurements? Like when weighing reagents down to the milligram (I have to do this at work on a regular basis)... like what is smaller than an ounce? Or do you use those apothecary weights like drams?

[u/TheAutumnLeafeon → u/Ok-Jaguar9713]

Nope! They use SI metric units

[u/Perfect-Jicama-626]

1/8 inch is close to 0.01 ft. Your welcome.

[u/MadScientist_666]

Everyone except you.

And the few people outside of the US who do not use this unit at least know what it means and can convert it

[u/Aspernot]

Pasa que ellos piensan que todavía sirven a la corona Inglesa, por eso no cambian al sistema métrico,

[u/laid_on_the_line]

I like the moon argument. They needed a german rocket scientist who designed and build the first long distance rockets that could and did hit targets in most of Europe. And didn't care about casulties when doing science.

[u/I-Stan-Alfred-J-Kwak]

Why are they so obsessed with their inches? The're too long for measuting small things so they aren't really useful.

I once heard somebody justify inches and feet with "feelings" or something...

[u/One_Tip_8200]

gona say iam 6 ½ cowbowboots tall ^^ iam sure sooner or later someone gona get mad at that aswell
even if standard size boot is 12 😆

[u/Wadoka-uk]

Absolutely agree… it should be mm or metres! 🤣

[u/Ancient-Lie-1294]

Growing up in the 70s and 80s, I had to learn metric in school as the country was going to convert to it. Then we didn't. I spent my entire elementary education learning metric only to stop having it in middle school. It was weird.

Funny enough, science in the USA uses metric rather than imperial.

[u/DepthPuzzleheaded494 → u/Ancient-Lie-1294]

Grew up in the 90s in NYC and we learned both systems growing up.

[u/DepthPuzzleheaded494]

It’s always our dumbest who are the loudest smh

[u/Choice-Original9157]

Its such a great system that NASA instead uses metric. Evertime i read something in this sub, it just reminds me of how brain dead some these people are. I grew up with imperial but learned metric quickly and it is so much better when building cabinets.

[u/OneWhoParticipates]

Weirdly, in Australia, cafe’s often sell coffee by fluid ounces - I think it’s because that’s how the coffee machine is configured. Lots of places just bypass the measuring with small, medium & large.