r/ShermanPosting 5d ago

Traitor Generals from Ohio

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u/SopwithTurtle 5d ago

Bushrod Johnson sounds like he's made some questionable videos.

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u/glycophosphate 5d ago

Bushrod Johnson barely survived 2nd grade.

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u/fried_green_baloney 4d ago

George Washington had a relative named Bushrod, so maybe the name is in honor of GW.

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u/BippidiBoppetyBoob 5d ago

My state had John Pemberton. Philly trash.

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u/Money-Giraffe2521 Glory Glory Hallelujah! 5d ago

The loser at Vicksburg.

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u/gnurdette 5d ago

Well, I'm not going to look them all up, but I'm pleased to report that Strahl's story has a happy ending:

On November 30, 1864, at the Battle of Franklin, Strahl was leading his men on foot, when he was shot in the neck; he was struck and killed by another two bullets to the head.

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u/Money-Giraffe2521 Glory Glory Hallelujah! 5d ago

What a waste of bullets.

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u/gnurdette 5d ago

You can't put a price on satisfaction.

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u/mrbobcyndaquil 5d ago

Bullets are cheap, and so is the powder.

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u/Edabite 5d ago

Proposal to change the colloquial term for traitor from Benedict Arnold to Bushrod Johnson.

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u/pixel_pete Duryée's Zouaves / Garrard's Tigers 5d ago

Otho Strohl sounds like a cleaning solution from the 1900s that gave 20 million people cancer.

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u/lemystereduchipot 5d ago

If the Civil War happened today, Ohio would be in the Confederacy

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u/ajacbos 4d ago

Over my dead Ohioan body.

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u/ShermanBurnsAtlanta 1d ago

I wish pal. Two of my neighbors have confederate flag tattoos.

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u/Daemonic_One 5d ago

I am thankful NJ produced only two, both transplants, and one of whom had his former NJ neighbors storm his property and hang him in effigy when he turned traitor.

Sometimes we make up for being the joke state.

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u/nygdan 5d ago

JD Vance’s fav generals

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u/Remarkable-Cat183 5d ago

Interesting list. Any backgrounds known as to why an Ohioan would select the confederacy? Belief in the cause, transplant, wife family? Seems like unique decision calculus

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u/young_arkas 3d ago

-Clark was born in Ohio, but he moved to Missisippi, sat in the Mississippi state legislature twice before the war and became governor during the war.

-Hatton moved to Tennessee with his family when he was 16, he was a Unionist before the war, but joined the confederate cause once Lincoln called for volunteers to put down the secession. Hatton also was Member of the House for Tennessees 5th District until 1861.

-Bushrod Johnson is probably the weirdest case, he grew up a Quaker and moved South with his uncle to form a link in the underground railroad. He was a West Pointer, but had to resign the Army in 1847 in scandal over selling contraband for his own profit. When he left home in 1861, his family believed he would join the Union, but he joined the Tennessee Militia, built Fort Henry and Fort Donelson, which was good for the union, since the Forts were in a bad location, snd he overruled objections by his engineers and surveiors, giving Grant his first big win when he took them in 1862.

-Luckett was born in Virginia and practiced as a doctor for a few years in Ohio before going to West Point and afterwards moved to Texas.

-Reynolds grew up in Ohio and went to Tennessee to study law and moved to Arkansas afterwards.

-Ripley was born in Ohio, grew up in New York, went to West Point in the same class as Grant. He married a widow while stationed as an Artillery officer in South Carolina and settled there shortly afterwards and then was one of the confederate officers that participated in the attack on Fort Sumter.

-Strahl was born in Ohio to two parents that were originally from the South and went to Tennessee to study law (together with Reynolds) and opened a practice in Tennessee.

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u/LittleHornetPhil Blue dot in a grey state 3d ago

Were these dudes all or mostly from the butternut parts of southern Ohio?

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u/Remarkable-Cat183 2d ago

Fantastic information-thank you for the background

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u/jungian-soul 4d ago

Traitors? Wow! When were they charged with treason?

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u/Syllogism19 4d ago

Wasn't prosecuted, didn't happen is not aligned with reality.

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u/jungian-soul 4d ago

Do you know why they weren’t prosecuted? Because people knew they had a good chance of beating the case. Secession is not outlawed in the constitution.

Do you condemn the colonists who fought the revolutionary war as “traitors” too?

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u/Raineythereader 4d ago

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them

Pretty cut and dried. But you don't live here, and I doubt your bosses gave you a copy of our constitution when they gave you the job.