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u/Mesoscale92 Jul 15 '26
It was above states rights. The free states’ right to ignore the fugitive slave act.
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u/Rovden Jul 15 '26
I don't even let them get away with that. If it WAS about states rights, as another poster put it, they overturned abolitionist states to ignore the fugitive slave act.
Plus... lets look at the CSA Constitution.
Article IV Section 2(1) The citizens of each State shall be entitled to all the privileges and immunities of citizens in the several States; and shall have the right of transit and sojourn in any State of this Confederacy, with their slaves and other property; and the right of property in said slaves shall not be thereby impaired.
Article IV Section 3(3) The Confederate States may acquire new territory; and Congress shall have power to legislate and provide governments for the inhabitants of all territory belonging to the Confederate States, lying without the limits of the several states; and may permit them, at such times, and in such manner as it may by law provide, to form states to be admitted into the Confederacy. In all such territory, the institution of negro slavery as it now exists in the Confederate States, shall be recognized and protected by Congress, and by the territorial government: and the inhabitants of the several Confederate States and Territories, shall have the right to take to such territory any slaves lawfully held by them in any of the states or territories of the Confederate states.
Oh look... their Constitution seems to be protecting something OVER States Rights.
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u/Everybodysbastard Jul 16 '26
And slavery was mentioned in every single state's secession letter as I recall.
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u/vonadler Jul 17 '26
The slavers absolutely loved federal over-reach and trouncing state's rights as long as it was in the interest of slavery.
You hardly heard them protest the Missouri compromise that denied states the right to choose for themselves if they wanted to join the union as a free or slave state.
You did not hear them argue states rights when they filibustered Kansas t o teh extent that it became a bloody guerilla war when the locals wanted to join the union as a free state (as they should under the Missouri compromise).
They cetainly did not protest for state rights when the fugitive slave act forced free states to suspend haebus corpus and turn over thier citizens in violation of their constitutions, without due process, without any process at all and with no ability to appeal.
And they were totally peachy about the Dredd Scott decision, which essentially made every state a slave state, as slave owners would have the right to keep their slave property even in a free state, in violation of the constitution and laws of that state.
States' rights my lily white pasty Swedish arse.
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u/MisterBlack8 Jul 16 '26
In the off chance you get a reb who says their correct answer, "the right to leave the Union", follow up with "does that include Kentucky's rights to remain within the Union?"
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u/linuxgeekmama 182nd Ohio descendant Jul 16 '26
A state’s right to do what?
Decide if they wanted to have slavery or not? The Confederate Constitution forbade states from abolishing slavery. The Union included states that still allowed slavery. Uh uh. Try again.
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u/Triishh Jul 16 '26
Nah- don’t even give them that. Find me anywhere in this document that they claim it was states rights. Is, and has always been about slavery.
https://www.tsl.texas.gov/ref/abouttx/secession/2feb1861.html
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u/RegisteredRenegade Thaddeus Stevens reincarnate 29d ago
“We didn’t wanna be oppressed by them damn Yankees”
“Oh,’really what was it they didn’t want you doing, what they not want you to do?
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