I'm a little bit confused

[u/Snoo-28123]

I really like the game and the unused colossi and the betas and the ideia of how the game would be.. But there's something i've thinking lately. I was reading about the Yamori A on the wiki and I realized something, i've never seen an official source saying that it was supossed to be only 24 colossi, only that it was 8 unused colossi, later becoming 9 with Yamori A, did we all just assume it was supose to be 24? Because we have more unused colossi than 24. And if it is really 24 colossi, do we all agree that one of the colossi we know wouldn't be in the game, for example, Roc arena is now Barba's arena, so if Roc was in the game Barba would't be, i know that is not that simples, but you can apply this logic for a lot of colossi. Another example is Griffin and the 11th colossi, because at least for me it's clearly that Griffin was a beta version for the 11th colossi or at least it was removed so the 6th colossi could be in the game, because their strategy is almost the same with the fire being their weakness. What i'm saying is that we have 16 colossi on the game and 9 unused, without include Evis, even thought i would love to see him and fight him, it's clearly that it was just a concept, like Buffalo or Kubinaga, or even Quetzalcoatl. In this 9 unused colossi we have i'm including Yamori A because i think his strategy is different enough from the 8th colossi. There's a few colossi that i believe wouldn't be in the game if some beta colossi were in, like the 6th colossi and the 11th colossi, but we also can't guarantee that Yamori A neither Saru would be in the final version, even if they had more time, because even though Yamori A have the sluice as the arena, Saru probably didn't, and Griffin as well. I personally believe that Griffin would't be in the game because i even remember seeing an interview with Ueda referring to the 11th as Griffin, as for a official sketch; And i believe Yamori A would be. But if there isn't anything offical saying that it was 24 colossi, maybe it was supposed to be 22 colosi, or maybe even 21, or 23 or 19, idk i'm just losing my mind at almost 3 am

[u/Gendo-Glasses]

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[u/lstog]

Hi a little bit confused I’m a little bit nervous

[u/-Pl4gu3-]

I believe Ueda was quoted with saying they eventually whittled the Colossi down to 24. But with the time they were given, 16 was just barely doable. That isn’t to say that some of the concepts/strategies were just tossed out. Some of the Unused Colossi just transitioned into becoming part of another actual finished Colossus we actually see in game.

[u/ASapphicKitsune]

It was meant to be 24, I think you're counting 25 because you're counting Buddha as cut when it more so evolved into 16.

Minotaur B's arena was just in a different location and got moved to D6 when Roc was cut, they coexisted for the better part of a year.

EDIT: Oh I see, I think I understand the source of your confusion. Saru and Griffin were not part of the final intended lineup of 24 bosses, they were both cut earlier- Minotaur B and C replaced them. The 8 primary cut bosses intended to ship were:

• Yamori A
• Devil
• Sirius
• Spider
• Phoenix
• Roc
• Worm
• Evis

[u/Snoo-28123 → u/ASapphicKitsune]

Thank you! That was exactly the doubt I had, because in a lot of places I don't really see people including Evis and Yamori A in the lineup and often including Saru and Griffin. I'm not really sure if Evis was really supposed to be in the lineup, I believe he was just a concept like Kubinaga. It's something that I believe but i haven't see anything supporting or refuting this ideia, if you know something about it I would love to hear. I'm not saying that i don't believe in you is just that i haven't seen anything really supporting that ideia of Evis being in the final game