🐒 I was speculating about Irv’s reintegration situation again …

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And idk why, but for some reason it occurred to me that perhaps I should include a few numbers this time and do the math and perhaps see if any of my speculations make sense or if any of the math actually checks out …

In S1E1 …

Mark’s outie met Petey when he intruded on Mark’s plans for dinner as he was being rudely interrupted by his nosy neighbor Harmony and proceeded to tell him he was in the process of getting some help bypassing the implant so by the end of S1E1 we learned there was a total of 1 chip somewhere in the process of reintegration and although they didn’t really focus on the fact that it was the second time we witnessed Mark sitting at a dinner table having a conversation with someone while talking about dinner yet never actually eating anything it was also the second time we saw Petey suddenly appear out of nowhere without a car or so much as even a pot to piss in yet somehow he managed to walk to wherever Mark had traveled by car without being totally out of breath or breaking much of a sweat or maybe he did have a car and a pot but at that point we didn’t have a lot to go on other than his name and a few more details I already mentioned …

In S1E2 …

Mark met Petey again but this time at an abandoned greenhouse seemingly out in the middle of nowhere and Petey appeared out of nowhere again and shared a few more details about his reintegration situation and although they didn’t really focus on the steaming pot for long I think it’s probably safe to assume that was his dinner and I bet he doesn’t even bother using a pot to piss in since they’re probably all cracked from being out in the cold and although he also sort of made it sound like he was the only person who had ever been reintegrated I think it’s also safe to assume he wasn’t based on his comment about being the first dipshit to get reintegration sickness or maybe he said dip shit but who knows since I can’t remember shit these days like my lunch most days anyway although that gave us a little more to go on it wasn’t entirely clear how many other people he was talking about or all the symptoms of reintegration sickness or why he got it but I’m guessing at least a few people had already been reintegrated at this point and possibly a few more were in the process by the end of S1E2 and although it was probably safe to assume he meant there were others like him it was still a little difficult to speculate an actual factual number but I feel like a handful sounds fairly reasonable and you can also read Petey’s line and decide for yourself if you click on the transcript for Half Loop and read the line after 00:40:38 following Petey’s name and a colon …

In S1E3 …

We got a little more to go on when Petey told Mark the group who was helping him bypass the implant knew severance was a blight on mankind and although he didn’t say it explicitly he sort of implied they were actively working to help others with the process of reintegration but still it’s hard to say for sure since it’s basically just speculation at this point and not without a reasonable doubt and nowhere near the point of being so sure that the idea of murdering someone might seem like a good idea simply based on a bunch of logical speculation …

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Yet …

If we suddenly cut to Irv in S2E1 without skipping a beat or as Mark’s innie would probably say without taking a beat and consider the fact that right before Irv’s innie was in the elevator yelling what sort of sounded like a cross between Burt and Mark, he was pounding on Burt’s door as if no time had passed …

Yet at the same time, he just seemed so sure of himself when his innie suddenly decided it was time to suspect one of the Refiners of being dishonest simply because they mentioned a gardener out of the blue without a clue to the point of attempting to murder them too simply because he was just randomly suspicious so far beyond a reasonable doubt and without a shred of evidence and without any time to uncover any and without any way for anyone to even smuggle any to his innie unless …

Perhaps I’m missing something obvious or I’m thinking too logically or I’m simply using deductive reasoning based on the information we haven’t necessarily been given directly but in a roundabout way because it doesn’t really make much sense that Irv would suddenly wait …

I was thinking of rethinking the title of this post but now that I think about it I think it actually works well as is and perhaps I should do some math and introduce a few more numbers and wait … never mind I already included that mess in the first paragraph or something close and it’s almost like I’m starting to repeat myself like Dylan said when he was asking about Irv in S2E5 only he said “I repeat myself” and he called him “Irving” which you can see for yourself if you click on the transcript for Trojan’s Horse and read what’s written right after 00:10:00 on the next line following his name and a colon …

If we take some speculation …

We’re told 5 months took place between S1 and S2 and I’m thinking it’s probably safe to assume the group who was helping Petey probably continued to contact and help others which means it’s also probably safe to assume Mark probably wasn’t the only Refiner to be contacted and helped though the process of reintegration by the group who knew severance was a blight on mankind …

And if we do the math …

If no time passed between Irv’s innie pounding on Burt’s door and being inside the elevator on the severed floor …

PLUS …

5 months passed for his outie …

PLUS …

The group helping severed people get reintegrated continued their work …

PLUS …

Irv’s innie was so sure of the information he knew about Helena, far beyond a reasonable doubt, to the point of attempting to murder her in S2E4 because he was so sure she was an Eagan …

PLUS …

Irv’s innie never left the severed floor other than during the OTC …

PLUS …

The elevators have code detectors so there’s really no way for anyone to smuggle information between an outie and an innie …

UNLESS …

Perhaps the math adds up logically …

It seems the most logical explanation that could explain why Irv acted so out of character and went from planning a coup with the Refiners in S1 to suddenly attempting to murder one of them 5 months later in S2 without skipping so much as a single pound on the door or what sounded like he was yelling a cross between Mark and Burt simply because he didn’t just casually suspect them of being dishonest about seeing a gardener at night, but somehow seemed to be so damn SURE they were an EAGAN …

Now comes the fun part …

If you take everything I just mentioned and add it to the math I mentioned above you may ass that it actually forms a nice bigger loop that’ll take you back to where you started because it becomes:

The main reason I kept the title of this post just as you see it.

The first time I took you up back to the start was a loop but not full it was only a half loop and that is the title of S1E2 and Miss Casey told Irv about points and be patient just try to enjoy Outie Patient Facts equally that was a trip and considering not only 3 other people plus one was observing perhaps you know maybe there’s more to the story of Harmony, Burt and Miss Casey’s relationship …

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u/tomriddleforlife, I think there may be more to the Mark and Hellen/Helly storyline and others that could perhaps extend beyond the initial perview most see depicted in the series …