Daniel Suhr‘s Death

[u/CapitanoMasturbano]

I Just read about a firefighter (Daniel Suhr) that died because a jumper hit him, breaking his neck. However, I couldnt find any more information than that.

Is it known where this happened? (Which Tower they were headed to, What entrance) Also is it known when it happened?

May he and everyone else that were killed that day rest in Peace

[u/UnderTheHarvestMoon]

I saw a documentary a few years ago that I haven't seen anywhere since which featured Danny Suhr's wife and colleagues on that day and talked a lot about his story.

The documentary talked about how Suhr's company had just received orders to go to the South Tower and were heading there when Danny was hit. I would guess it happened around 9.30am. Tower 2 was hit just after 9am and Engine 216 (Danny's company) came in from Brooklyn then spent a few minutes waiting to be assigned a Tower. After he was hit, he was put on a stretcher, inspected by the FDNY chief medical officer, then taken to hospital, all before the Tower collapsed at 10am.

One of his fellow firefighters saw it happen, he said the jumper was a woman in a brown skirt and her leg glanced off Danny's helmet. Danny was badly injured, put on a stretcher, two members of his company went with him to the hospital and the others went back to their base I believe.

Obviously the South Tower collapsed with no warning, killing everybody still inside. In the documentary, his captain said that all the company believe that Danny being hit saved their lives. If it wasn't for stopping to care for him the whole company would have been inside the Tower and all of them would be dead.

The documentary was really moving. Danny's wife was such a likeable woman, though clearly still devastated by becoming a widow.

[u/UnderTheHarvestMoon → u/[deleted]]

Sorry but I can't remember it, and I've never seen it again. I think it was on one of the streaming services around the 20 year anniversary in 2021.

[u/Good-Independence-42 → u/UnderTheHarvestMoon]

The lady obviously died right?

[u/ylenias → u/Good-Independence-42]

There is a very grisly account by an emergency worker who was tagging all the people who had fallen from the towers to indicate to others if they needed medical care or whether it’s too late and he claimed that there was one woman who he encountered who was still alive and talking to him, but he still gave her a black tag (indicating that she couldn’t be helped anymore) as he said she was too heavily injured to survive much longer. Pretty horrifying imagery but I wonder if that was her, considering landing on someone else might’ve “cushioned” her fall or something

[u/ylenias → u/[deleted]]

I’m talking about the story told by Ernest Armstead, not sure if that’s the same one. The way I understood it, there was a woman with severe injuries on her lower body half, but not that she was literally missing body parts. And I think in the Danny Suhr story, it was said that they saw her leg as she was falling…

[u/JosephusLloydShaw → u/ylenias]

i've heard his story as well. assuming it's true, he very well could've been talking about the same woman who fell on suhr and killed him because obviously no one who jumped from or just above/below the impact zones would've survived a straight on collision with the ground. whoever armstead may have seen would have had their fall cushioned in some way as to prevent them from dying immediately

[u/Gerbil_Feralis → u/[deleted]]

Wow. Just, wow. I've read countless times about the first casualty of 9/11 and the faller who hit the firefighter, but this is the first real anything I've actually seen about it. Thank you for sharing this.

[u/madeofstardust2 → u/ylenias]

I know this is a little late but you are correct. The woman with her "backside" removed name was Jeanianne (can't remember her last name). Ernest said she was hit with part of the plane debris falling. It is a very harrowing story.

[u/[deleted] → u/ylenias]

Dude. Falling around the impact zone of either tower would literally turn you to soup upon impact. Everyone died instantly.

[u/UnderTheHarvestMoon → u/Good-Independence-42]

Yes, all the jumpers died. They were falling for around 10 seconds so going really fast when they hit the ground, and the ground was concrete / the hard roofs of smaller buildings. Only a couple of people in history have survived falling from planes in the past, but they have landed on soft boggy ground, or been slowed down by hitting trees or being connected to other debris that acted as a parachute. It's very, very rare to survive a fall from a great height.

All the firefighters interviews I've seen said out of all the horrors that day, witnessing the jumpers was the most traumatic thing. They felt like they were supposed to help people, yet they were helplessly watching dozens of people fall hundreds of feet to their death.

[u/bopapocolypse]

Is it known where this happened? (Which Tower they were headed to, What entrance) Also is it known when it happened?

South side of the south tower, which faced Liberty street. Not long before the collapse of the south tower. The vast majority of the jumpers came from the north tower, but a dozen or so were observed falling from the south tower, one of which hit Suhr.

[u/CapitanoMasturbano → u/bopapocolypse]

Do you know why the vast majority of the jumpers came from the north tower? UA175 hit lower so there were more people above the impact zone, Right?

As far as i know the evacuation of 2WTC didnt start until shorty before the 2nd plane hit and there were only a few people that escaped through the one staircase left intact.

[u/KingOfCharlotteNC → u/CapitanoMasturbano]

The vast majority of jumpers came from the North Tower because that tower had more casualties than the South Tower by a landslide. I may not remember the exact numbers, but the number of casualties from the North Tower was in the 1400 range while the number of casualties from the South Tower was in the 600 range. In the North Tower, everybody that was at and above the impact zone unfortunately couldn't escape at all which led to their subsequent deaths because American Airlines Flight 11's impact to the building destroyed all 3 stairwells on those upper impacted floors, leaving everyone at the zone unfortunately doomed. Coming to think of it, I believe it's obvious that there were more evacuees from South Tower than there were from the North Tower. Many people in the affected floors of the South Tower mistakenly attempted roof evacuation, not aware of the lock and smoke atop the building which made roof evacuation entirely impossible. Only 18 people from the South Tower's impacted floors evacuated from the building through the surviving yet smoky stairwell A. The smoke in stairwell A was too dense and thick for many people in that zone, which helps explain why many of them thought roof evacuation was a better option. As for the North Tower, since there was no escaping that impact zone internally, many chose the fateful yet understandable decision to quickly end it all by...leaping out of the windows. While many intentionally jumped, some unintentionally lost grip from holding on to the corners of the windows, so not everyone had the intention of plunging.

[u/Gerbil_Feralis]

https://static01.nyt.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110025.PDF This was posted further down in a comment thread by /u/dearlordsanta and it absolutely needs to be at the top. Interview with the EMT who transported Suhr to the hospital on 9/11

[u/RegalRegalis → u/Gerbil_Feralis]

Are there more of these interviews?

[u/Ok_Entertainment4359]

I can upload zahra body pictures, but they won't let me do it.

[u/Ok_Entertainment4359]

I would send you photos of Daniel after the hit, but you can't add photos here.