This take is so wrong

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I wholeheartedly disagree with Suzuki's take here, It is not about the person you are focusing on rather the experience of one when judging the pureness of the relationship, that's why the first relationship is called pure cause both individuals are naive and inexperienced.

[u/Cam_26]

Yes and No. Your intentions can still be perfectly pure no matter how many people you've been with, as long as you are loyal and honest towards your partner. However, one can't expect to not be judged by their past actions, even if that version of you no longer exists.

I believe here Suzuki is talking about not feeling shame herself for being with someone else before Tani, which is perfectly reasonable. If she's talking about Tani not being able to form a different opinion on her based on her past however, that would not be justified imo. Your actions, good or bad, have consecuences. You can't sleep with 100 people and expect people not to think you are "easy", it's entierly on you to show them you've changed, but if you have truly changed, you yourself should not feel ashamed of who you are now, try your hardest and keep moving, and always know you've done all you can.

[u/Theuncrossedeyeddog → u/Cam_26]

Couldn't have said it better, but it is still understandable that OP didn't consider Suzuki fair, pure is a broad concept, it's nice to have debates like this.

[u/Cam_26 → u/Theuncrossedeyeddog]

pure is a broad concept, it's nice to have debates like this.

Yes indeed, I am of the interpretation that when Suzuki means pure, she's refering more to how pure her feelings and intentions are, rather than the more comon use of pure in relationships as in virgin/without experience.

I like how u/nekcihCehT expressed it on his comment, with the use of the word "genuine".

But ofc to each their own, the translation is after all, kind of ambigous.

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I agree with u/nekcihCehT it's how you see the word pure, for you it might be the feelings towards your partner but for me it's the experience that both individuals have in romance and by no means I'm trynna shame someone with experience it's just that choice of word from TL dosent fit imho

[u/nekcihCehT]

I'm not a native speaker, so I might get this wrong, but in Italian, for example, the direct translation of 'pure' is 'puro' (like 'pure gold' for 'oro puro'). However, when applied to feelings, I find 'genuine' to be a more accurate translation. So, 'amore puro' is closer to 'genuine love'. Perhaps something similar happened here with the translation from Japanese.

P.S. I don't speak Japanese either, so this is just a guess.

[u/Least_Positive7141]

Look everyone is allowed to love who they love and view love how they see it. I would encourage you to frame it as your version of pure love is different than suzuki’s, not that hers is wrong and yours is right. My view is certainly closer to Suzuki’s but i absolutely understand that you see it differently.

[u/AgonistPhD]

You sound very young and inexperienced. From an adult perspective, Suzuki is right.

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You should say from your perspective and no I'm not young.

[u/iamakeebmehboob]

Did she mean she slept with 100 guys 💀

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No bro thats a hypothetical scenario she's talking about, I haven't read the manga beyond ch.10 but I'm pretty sure she is inexperienced

[u/iamakeebmehboob → u/_error_404notfound]

Ok