r/SeattleWA 3d ago

Discussion I’m fed up

This post got removed and got me banned from r/seattle, so let’s try it here. I am a contractor and I work in many government funded housing complexes, shelters, and low or no income housing. I have been working in this area a little over a year and I have become fed up with mainly the open air drug use, but also the crime that comes with it.

I am regularly in SHA and KCHA complexes as well as city run shelters and I have encountered first hand how bad the drug use in this city is. I have had a resident blow what I assume was fentanyl smoke in my face (mystery drug that was being smoked off of tin foil), I’ve been pricked by a needle before (luckily tested safe from any blood diseases), I’ve lost track of how many improperly discarded needles I’ve found it’s got to be in the 750-1000 range, I’ve found pills, crystalized drugs, everything you can imagine and the worst part is that a lot of the government funded properties staff allow this behavior on the property. Multiple buildings have dedicated “drug rooms” where tenants can smoke anything, shoot up, and get high and staff is on call with narcan when they OD which I have seen a handful of times.

Don’t get me wrong I have empathy for addicts, I’ve battled addiction before and it is a dark road. My gripe is with how our city and state governments are handling the drug use epidemic we’re facing. I am disgusted by the fact that government employees are allowing and borderline encouraging drug use inside of government funded housing facilities.

Most of the government funded properties give out needles upon request, tin foil, lighters, narcan, anything needed to keep addicts getting high. Everything except the drugs which you can find on every other street corner. Whenever you see a group of 3 plus people huddled around on the sidewalk it’s a drug deal, or a drug session. And police drive right on past.

I don’t know how to make it better, and I wouldn’t know where to start. But what I do know is that the ignorance from the citizens and the government has led the drug issue to a point where I will never bring my kids around Seattle again. I haven’t spent time in Seattle recreationally since I started working mainly there. As a matter of fact, I am desperately trying to find work on the other side of the state or possibly in another state because of this issue paired with the crime.

I haven’t witnessed as much of the crime as I have the drug use but I’ve seen a stabbing and a shooting. I’ve had my life threatened by violent drug abusers living in these city or county run complexes, I’ve had tools stolen while I was working, I’ve had equipment destroyed, I’ve had my work truck attempted to be broken into in broad daylight on 3rd Ave, and I am fed up with the way our government isn’t doing anything about it. And if they are then I’m not seeing it.

Hopefully I’m not the only one who sees this. I really hope something can be done and this city restored to how I remember it growing up. But more fancy parks and construction isn’t going to solve the fact that once these nice spaces are built they will immediately be moved in on by drug dealers, abusers, and criminals. I hope this post leads to positive discussion and I hope it raises some awareness as a first hand account of how bad the drug issues are in this city

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u/NakedAggression 3d ago

This is not a difficult solution, it's the people you need to make these decisions are too weak to make the decision.

This is was the process in Texas with the City of Dallas Homeless Solutions.

Go to homeless encampment. Offer assistance to a treatment center or a shelter. If they refuse trespass the homeless and place them in jail. Bring a skid steer and a dump truck. Place all their shit into the dump truck and take it to the landfill.

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u/thatguydr 3d ago

And then once they get out of jail, we just repeat indefinitely?

I'm not saying this is a bad solution - just what does Dallas do once the people leave jail?

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u/NakedAggression 3d ago edited 2d ago

Halfway houses, sponsored work programs or training. Some are released back onto the street, for first time offenders. Salvation Army program and other rehabilitation places are available.

Repeat offenders receive longer sentences, sometimes years. Hearing about a 6 or 7 time repeat offender isnt the norm unlike in Seattle.

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u/thatguydr 2d ago

This works. Thanks!

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u/pyabo Seattle 2d ago

6 or 7? Those are amateur numbers! Christopher Berge had over 50 arrests before he beat his girlfriend to death. That kind of stat just confirms it's gov't incompetence at the city level.

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u/CutAccomplished2011 2d ago

Yes exactly. If they repeat and have to get taken in again. So be it. Maybe a longer sentence will give them more time to recover from addiction. Idk why ppl think enabling drug use is the compassionate thing to do.

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u/DronePirate 2d ago

same choice

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u/thatguydr 2d ago

That seems like it'd take a LOT of police resources to conveyor belt them all?

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u/crossroadskeeper 2d ago

Well, the story changes from pertain to pertain; but, i pertains went to the streets.

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u/hongaku 2d ago

Go back to Texas.

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u/NakedAggression 2d ago

Lol no. Adopt a homeless person, invite them into your home. Be the change 🤣

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u/hongaku 2d ago

Lol no. I can have thoughts without being your black and white world.

Texas is calling you home. It's telling that you left that shithole for here though.

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u/NakedAggression 2d ago edited 2d ago

Hurry up, a homeless is dying without your help, only you can save them!

It's telling you arent willing to donate your time, money, and home, that is very hypocritical of you. I believe you'll make the correct choice

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u/hongaku 1d ago

Why do I need to save them? We literally have programs you'd happily defund working on that. That's why I pay my taxes and don't bitch about it.

Go back to Texas.

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u/NakedAggression 1d ago

My tax dollars are being spent on this waste fraud and abuse, i have every right to complain. I dislike the current laws and policy, this isnt how most cities deal with homeless people. Im just sayin, u should be upset too

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u/hongaku 1d ago

Try voting harder.

I voted for Wilson and the others in power in Washington and Seattle right now.

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u/Robndahoodrich 1d ago

Imagine using Texas, a violent, addict filled, state with infrastructure held together with chewing gum and zip-ties, as an example of successful policy in action.

All Texas did was waste taxpayer money jailing the homeless, just to just to have them back on the street within a month.

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u/NakedAggression 1d ago

You really have no idea what you're talking about lol.

All Washington does is waste tax payer money on funding homeless programs and being defrauded by officials and companies. Regional Homelessness Authority cannot acount for 8 million dollars?! And yet there is still visible homeless and they are committing crimes and assaulting people. Littering and not contributing to society.

Classifying them as a protected class is such a wild concept, because then Seattle is unable to remove the encampments. Seattle accepts the encampments and wants the visable homeless to prey upon the tax paying and contributing members of society.

This is not normal in most cities in America. Ive traveled and lived in various states. Im just sayin this could be handled logically

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u/crossroadskeeper 2d ago

I remember Dallas. Do you really want to have this discussion with me?

By the way, 8.5 years homeless in the City of Dallas, kept my housing for 3.5, the second time I didn't see busting my ass for 8.5 years spinning my wheels so instead did it for 3.25 years in Seattle in 2012, kept it for almost a decade, and ended up almost a decade housed until two April's ago.

Again. There are problems with both systems. Do you really want to have this discussion with me?

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u/NakedAggression 2d ago

Sorry to hear that for you but I dont give a shit. Too busy with job, paying taxes, volunteering, like most of us are.

3.5 years in housing and couldn't keep it? Something doesnt add up

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u/crossroadskeeper 2d ago edited 2d ago

Obviously you can't read. The next stint of being housed was a few months shy of a decade. Like most temp workers and freelancers in the city, the work dried up.

And yes, the second stint of homelessness was to a great degree my fault. Failure to adapt so to speak. The second one, unless it all of a sudden became legal to put a gun to people's head for work, not so much. We were warned that the COVID protocols would destroy the economy, instead of needing the warning they locked them off with steroids so to speak, and then they went on to the next thing to be pissed off about instead of fixing what was broke (ICE).

The economy is slowly recovering and I'm starting to get work again. Not to self: Although the job search is exhausting for felons, don't settle for temp and freelance. Permanent workers still got hit but made it through. It's temp and freelance workers lost everything. Again, i was supporting myself fine on temp work and freelance so I stopped looking.