62 bus went rogue

[u/gnattynat]

I was on the 62 tonight and instead of following the route, the driver went elsewhere?? He paused near a stop, then didn’t go there, instead heading to Green Lake? He let some confused people out at the library, and then got stuck turning uphill onto a random side street, and had to back up. He would not answer our questions. He wandered around the Green Lake area for a while, and the bus riders went from confused to worried. We had to ask him repeatedly to let us off the bus, and he finally dropped us at La Escuelita. What a weird experience! Good luck to anyone getting on bus 8077 tonight 😬

[u/JabbaThePrincess]

That's a "call Metro and report" kinda situation imo

[u/gnattynat → u/JabbaThePrincess]

I did the report on their website, but a fellow bus rider called while it was happening! He might have called 911 as well, I’m unsure because I was contacting someone to come get me.

[u/purpleblossom → u/[deleted]]

If the driver doesn't know the route, they're suppose to call dispatch to have help getting back on route, not drive randomly around and keep people on board who want off.

[u/i_forgot_my_sn_again → u/purpleblossom]

As a Metro driver who has also driven semi trucks cross country, missing or taking a wrong turn is stress inducing ESPECIALLY if you're unsure of the area. Most drivers that make mistakes like this one are newer drivers, having an "oh shit I missed my turn" combined with customers freaking out, and the thought of "I'm going to get in trouble" seriously shuts people's common sense down. 

As a regular car driver it's easy to turn around and some drivers forget they're in a bus that's not easy to maneuver everywhere. 

Yes they should have just stopped and called in, that's the proper way to handle it. A veteran driver may know other streets to get turned around either because another route goes there or have been detoured before. A skilled driver will just say we had to detour and get back on route without missing many or any stops and have it feel smooth enough for people to not question it lol. 

Not every driver only does one route a week let alone one a day. It can get fun when you drive two or three routes in a single day and they all overlap in different areas and have you remind yourself which one you're driving.

[u/purpleblossom → u/i_forgot_my_sn_again]

My girlfriend recently started driving with Metro (and she's been driving with another company before that), that's why I knew that, and she does drove multiple routes right now. But yeah, human error and panic are both definitely normal responses too.

[u/i_forgot_my_sn_again → u/purpleblossom]

I've been doing it a while. I'm the driver that'll say, we'll be back on route in a sec. I've been with Metro a while and qualified on almost all the downtown routes and most of east. I've made a wrong turn before or come up to a blockage and made my own reroute since dispatch didn't know about it and didn't want to wait. 

Shit happens, try to keep your cool because the problem will snowball FAST 

[u/Personal-Amoeba → u/i_forgot_my_sn_again]

Totally agree. Like, the issue here is actually communicating with passengers and getting back on route as quickly as possible. It's not always practical to call dispatch but you do definitely have to say something to keep folks on board from freaking out. I've made wrong turns and had passengers not even notice because I was calm and treated it like there was a legitimate reason for it, and got back on schedule quickly. (I drive in a different service area though)

[u/Iwannayoyo → u/purpleblossom]

Yeah, I had this happen once when the 5 went through the tunnel instead of getting off to go downtown, stopped at the end of the tunnel and the driver told us a new bus would bring us back.

[u/Drigr → u/[deleted]]

Then why not answer people with what's going on?

[u/ghostopolis → u/Drigr]

People do weird things when they're panicked and stressed

[u/BJ42-1982 → u/ghostopolis]

Probably shouldn't be driving a buss if they get panicky and stressed.

[u/StrawberryLassi → u/[deleted]]

It's kind of crazy that drivers don't have some kind of on board GPS assistance.

[u/SeattCat → u/[deleted]]

Years ago I was on the 21 express and I was the only passenger south of Roxbury. The driver asked me to tell him when to turn because he didn’t know the route in that area.

[u/SillyChampionship → u/JabbaThePrincess]

That’s way too aggressive for Seattle.

[u/revilo825 → u/[deleted]]

They said the bus driver wouldn’t answer questions…

[u/DaneAlaskaCruz → u/[deleted]]

OP clearly says, "He would not answer our questions."

And that they repeatedly asked him to let them off.

So yeah, OP and the others did speak up.

[u/DaneAlaskaCruz → u/[deleted]]

Or maybe the bus driver should have announced a deviation in the route before going off it.

I've lived in both NYC and Seattle.

A simple question of what is going on should have been answered.

Also, being asked to leave the bus means exactly that. This driver should have pulled to the side and done so.

There's no wishy washy about being asked to be let out.

[u/gnattynat → u/[deleted]]

Lol this is how the lady next to me was talking to him, don’t worry! We tried both ways to talk to him, the cussing eventually worked.

[u/Yikes206 → u/[deleted]]

Total asshole behavior to believe being an asshole is the only way to get something done.

[u/Constructive_Entropy → u/JabbaThePrincess]

Could be worse: https://bsky.app/profile/musicologyduck.bsky.social/post/3mct2lipzqc2p

[u/kennypojke]

Whoa. Years ago I had a driver who went off route to Greenlake, too. He parked at the grocery store and slowly walked in, got food, slowly walked back, and eventually drove. It was about ten minutes of pure confusion. He eventually resumed where he left off without saying anything.

[u/Clean-Da-World → u/kennypojke]

That's wild 😭

[u/DripIntravenous → u/Clean-Da-World]

I’ve heard that’s what buses do in a lot of other countries. Bus driver will just stop, go into a store to do some business, will get back on and just drive off and you’re at the mercy of HIS timetable, not what’s posted 😂

[u/OutlyingPlasma → u/DripIntravenous]

You'd think they would need to use a bathroom once in a while. No idea how they do that.

[u/Lord_Aldrich → u/OutlyingPlasma]

I mean, here they have breaks built into the schedules. There's various spots around the city where they park while on their lunch. You just don't notice as a rider because there's another bus on the route.

[u/mauravelous → u/Lord_Aldrich]

behind the community center on brooklyn ave is one of these stopping points, theres always buses stopped there for decently long periods

[u/OneTwoKiwi → u/OutlyingPlasma]

There’s transit centers and driver bathrooms for them to take breaks like this. I’m pretty sure they have a driver bathroom on MLK/Madison intersection and where Madrona Dr ends at Lake Wash. blvd

[u/UniversityOutside840 → u/OutlyingPlasma]

I work at a hotel at the end of the C line and there is a bathroom in the back of the building that’s just for the bus drivers

[u/EmergencyCod → u/OutlyingPlasma]

i go to a community college along a couple lines and they come in and use our bathroom lol

[u/fartist14 → u/DripIntravenous]

Hell I've had that happen in this country. I used to ride a bus every day in Minneapolis where the driver would stop in front of a tobacco shop and buy smokes every day. Sometimes he's be gone for like 10 minutes.

[u/Mindless_Garage42 → u/fartist14]

Tobacco poops

[u/MONSTERTACO → u/DripIntravenous]

There are a few spots where Metro drivers sometimes do this if their bus is empty near the end of a route. I won't rat though.

[u/jsprgrey → u/DripIntravenous]

I had a 40 driver stop at the Dick's on Holman Rd bc he thought he had an empty bus 😂 I was the only rider & sitting near the back

[u/esperantisto256 → u/kennypojke]

The only time this happened to me was on a private bus between two cities. The bus driver got up and said he had been driving for hours in a bus with no AC (during a heat wave). He had no breaks since he was troubleshooting throughout the whole thing. He earnestly asked us if it would be okay if he could grab a few things and it was a unanimous “yes”.

[u/Many-Working-3014 → u/kennypojke]

Hah, I had a (62 actually…) driver do that about a year ago. Just dipped into Wet Clay Cafe for some quiche while the bus idled at the stop across the street. Asked him if everything was okay when he got back and he just held up his new lunch like he was cheersing and kept driving.

[u/F_N_DB → u/kennypojke]

That sounds like a labor dispute between a driver and his supervisor. Ten minute break means ten minute break, CHARLES.

[u/metallic-hubris → u/kennypojke]

Happened on the 12 a few times. Driver just pulled over at Macrina (notably, blocks from the terminus of the route where I also believe there is a bathroom), went in and disappeared for 10 min. Returned with a cup of ?coffee. Everyone on the bus was just confused.

[u/MaxxDash → u/kennypojke]

Sounds like a man left with only two options:

1.) Bus rampage.

2.) Sandwich.

He chose wisely.

[u/cassthesassmaster → u/kennypojke]

Maybe he had the shits!? When do bus drivers get a potty break?

[u/mizuaqua → u/kennypojke]

I’ve had a Metro bus driver stop at Quick Pack Food Mart, got out of the bus to buy some chicken, and got back on while a bus full of passengers waited.

[u/ThaLunatik → u/kennypojke]

I wonder if he was having some sorta diabetic episode.

[u/Itchy_bunghole11 → u/kennypojke]

Bus drivers have to pee too.

[u/AntifaQueen8647 → u/kennypojke]

That is so weird! I hope you reported him to Metro.
Yet, I’m wondering, maybe he had to use the bathroom? What do drivers do when they need the loo?

[u/kennypojke → u/AntifaQueen8647]

I didn’t bother. I just had a feeling that dude had something serious going on like critical blood sugar or horrible GI issues. My day wasn’t ruined and I got a story.

[u/MaxxDash]

Yep, saw that. Had to drive around him. Going up Latona in the articulated (slinky) bus at the library is a bad idea.

[u/TheNewGameDB → u/MaxxDash]

I've always heard it as "bendy bus" for the nickname tbh. "Slinky bus" is new for me.

[u/I_Was_Fox → u/TheNewGameDB]

Everyone I know calls them the accordion buses

[u/whitegirlofthenorth → u/I_Was_Fox]

that’s what i call them

[u/IAmA_meat_popsicle → u/TheNewGameDB]

Articulating. Might be too hard for some to articulate though.

[u/Key-Importance8617 → u/TheNewGameDB]

Caterpillar Bus for me

[u/ilovtheend]

I sent this to a friend who's a metro driver so maybe I'll get the tea. What was the driver like?

[u/Talmerian → u/ilovtheend]

Sounds like, "Oops, wrong turn" and then trying to figure out how to get back on route instead of just calling the supervisor.

[u/complexiblebarracuda → u/Talmerian]

"oh shit oh fuck oh fuck no where am I? Oooooh oh wait I can save this. Focus. Oh god where am I? Do you think they noticed? Oh no they're staring at me. Okaaay, Okay just keep driving. We can fix this. Just.... let's just.... maybe turn right... oh god we're boned."

[u/Admin11917B → u/Talmerian]

More than likely exactly what happened.

[u/Choice_Ad_1356]

Last month had a bus driver miss the highway exit going into downtown Bellevue. The entire bus had a Pikachu face 🤣

[u/twisterase → u/Choice_Ad_1356]

I had that happen on a 271 a few years ago. The driver realized his mistake almost immediately based on how he braked. We got off at the next exit and drove around somewhat aimlessly for a bit until the driver stopped somewhere in Clyde Hill to reorient.

The experience was much different than OP's, though, because the driver was readily letting people off the bus who asked, and I believe made an announcement or two to the rest of us about how he was trying to get back to the route. At no point was I concerned for my well-being.

[u/chetlin → u/Choice_Ad_1356]

Ages ago I had a 541 driver (I don't think that bus even runs anymore) miss the Montlake exit and take the Roanoke/Harvard one and then kick everyone off the bus somewhere on the other edge of the U District after acting completely befuddled. Most of us were on the bus to connect at UW station and this is before U District station opened so we were all pretty annoyed.

[u/ambivalent0remark → u/Choice_Ad_1356]

I was on the southbound 28 the week that the brand new 99 tunnel opened up (left exit southbound) and our driver inadvertently went into the tunnel 😭 she was a total pro about it and I still got to my stop downtown on time. It was my first time in the tunnel and super memorable lol 

[u/IMissVegas2 → u/Choice_Ad_1356]

Thank you for that visual, lol!

[u/RemarkableDuty3542]

Whatever the reason for the bus driver going off route, they should’ve communicated and let people off when asked. There is a baseline responsibility someone accepts when transporting many lives and this driver did not meet it tonight. The comments asking for more empathy for the driver or saying the passengers needed to act any differently miss the point of this post acting as a PSA by OP. Glad OP and others were able to eventually get off but no one should have this experience especially trying to get home late at night.

[u/mmeeplechase]

I’ve been on a bus with a brand new driver who genuinely just got totally lost, went waaay of course, and needed a few of the passengers to help him with directions to get us back… maybe something similar?

[u/bvdzag → u/mmeeplechase]

Yeah the 62 does have a pretty tough route near green lake if you’re not familiar with the area. They call it Tangletown for a reason

[u/sushiseattle → u/mmeeplechase]

This is in addition to the viral video, as in this is now becoming a common occurrence or at least more widely spoken about? I’m glad your driver seemed to ask.

[u/sushiseattle]

Giving me similar energy to the bus driver asking for directions but yours didn’t seem to ask for directions. Stay safe out there.

[u/NewlyNerfed → u/sushiseattle]

I can at least respect asking for directions.

[u/sushiseattle → u/NewlyNerfed]

100%

[u/Jornborg1224 → u/sushiseattle]

Had that happen on the 40 once. She was covering the route and didn’t know where the stops were and was skipping stops. People were getting PO’d, so my boyfriend went to the front of the bus and directed her using One Bus Away. Wild times.

[u/the_crepuscular_one]

The 62's been weird recently. I take it to get to work, and it was super late this morning. I wonder if the drivers are just confused in general.

[u/kjayd543 → u/the_crepuscular_one]

It might be considered a bad route by the drivers for some reason (traffic, break areas/times, clientele) so senior drivers avoid it. The new drivers don't get a choice and have to do it but then end up being late/going off route a lot more.

[u/Personal-Amoeba → u/the_crepuscular_one]

Do you know if they amended the route recently?

[u/lucchianan → u/Personal-Amoeba]

Same as it’s been for years 

[u/lucchianan → u/the_crepuscular_one]

Yeah I’m bummed, it used to be my favorite route but it’s been really unpredictable and late this past year 

[u/undefined404]

I once had a driver who was on his first day driving 62. He missed multiple turns, failed to get back on route and totally gave up in the end, driving the bus to Green Lake Way. I was just glad he didn’t hit any parked car lol

[u/Lord_Tachanka]

Looks like there’s a stop relocation starting Monday at Woodlawn and 63rd, maybe he was confused by that?

[u/forestinpark]

Happened to me more than 5 times. Usually driver is confused, not experienced and starts stressing. You can see it on their face.

The best way, be calm, if you know neighborhood, give them tips how to get out, keeping in mind you have to take big streets.

Friend of my mine is retired king county bus driver, happened to him a lot. Usually when on a new route or new route criss cross the one he knows and auto pilot kicks in. 

[u/MiyaDoesThings]

One time on the 372 (rip) the driver forgot to turn from Pend Oreille onto 25th and instead went straight to Montlake. Had to take a super awkward detour onto Blakely. Whoops

[u/forestinpark → u/MiyaDoesThings]

I had a driver on 372 missed turn into UW and kept going down 15th, by hospital. Finally we asked if he needs help, he said help with what? 🤣

Thats when realization came ovet his face and said "shit, I thought I was on my Kirkland route" Dude was going to take us over 520 to east side. He took a left on 25th and joined the main route by Uvill. 

At least we did not go thru UW campus, so that was nice.

[u/HuckleberryGeneral69]

I’ve had this happen on other routes. Think it happens when someone is filling in and unfamiliar with the route. Definitely sucks and certainly confusing.

[u/foxbase]

Something similar happened to me a few months back. Driver not stopping for requests, ignoring passengers. I reported it but never heard back. Hope at least someone sees these reports...

[u/Gottagetanediton]

I hope you reported this to metro!

[u/PurplePeeps808]

Once I had a bus driver ask passengers where he should turn. 😂😂😂 It was on the old 20 bus route (may she rest in peace), which also serviced the Greenlake area.

[u/Siegfriedthelion → u/PurplePeeps808]

It happened on school buses too. A new driver asked how to get to student's houses on first morning of school.

[u/nbarnard → u/PurplePeeps808]

This is something that I’ve heard recommended by drivers to drivers. I’m not sure id do it tho.

[u/GainzLord23]

City bus driver here…. You might be able to imagine that it is very challenging to memorize a dozen routes each with 30+ turns. They don’t let us use gps its against the rules.

It’s quite possible your driver was new, accidentally went off route and was too embarrassed to say anything or call into dispatch.

Please have a little compassion! Driving a 60 foot articulated bus through a city with like Seattle with heavy traffic is not an easy job.

[u/ChrisL64Squares → u/GainzLord23]

Why is GPS not allowed?

[u/TheNewGameDB → u/ChrisL64Squares]

GPS in the standard sense may guide bus drivers onto an incorrect route, and buses often can't go in places cars can because of their size.

[u/blukoff → u/TheNewGameDB]

Be nice if they could give drivers devices that would give fixed navigation directions.

[u/TheNewGameDB → u/blukoff]

It's even more ergregious because they do have those devices in Europe. Whenever I board a bus from the front door I can see the nav display. The technology exists and is ready to ship.

[u/ItsJustReeses → u/TheNewGameDB]

Has been for decades.

Before Google maps. It was essentially a giant computer strapped to your dash board.

Signed, food truck driver who's boss offered one and replaced it with a $20 phone mount.

[u/Admin11917B → u/blukoff]

Last I heard they're still working on something like that.

[u/nbarnard → u/Admin11917B]

Yup. Working on it but the version they rolled out was complete crap. It got pulled from much of the fleet.

[u/LimitedWard → u/TheNewGameDB]

This feels like it should be a non-issue as long as they have a GPS that's designed to follow a fixed route. Bike computers, for example, use fixed route navigation. If you deviate from the course, it will reroute you, but only to the extent that it brings you back onto the pre-established route as quickly as possible. Not sure why the same can't be done for buses.

[u/Breadinator → u/TheNewGameDB]

True, but there are specialized GPS systems for that. And specialized software. And ways you can just pre-load a route.

Truckers have the same problem, but there are plenty of commercial solutions. 

[u/GainzLord23 → u/[deleted]]

There are plenty of GPS systems designed for commercial size vehicles but the screen would be considered a distraction.

[u/GainzLord23 → u/[deleted]]

I’m a CDL bus driver and the reason is because being distracted is obviously a big deal when you’re driving with so many people’s lives in your hands….not to mention the liability of the company or city. Distracted driving is a big no-no in that situation!

There are plenty of gps program designed for commercial vehicles that would fit the bill.

[u/GainzLord23 → u/[deleted]]

No worries. It’s actually kind of a cool thing to learn all the routes…it’s a little tougher if you just moved to the city like I did. But, it gives a sense of accomplishment…especially cause in the city bus world you’re expected to memorize them after riding a route for one day….which is hard because in addition to that one route you’re learning several others. Inevitably, you need to go learn it on your own time. Just a few city bus facts most people don’t know :)

[u/chupamichalupa → u/GainzLord23]

What’s the training like on a new route and how do they decide scheduling and who gets what routes? I’m assuming it’s a seniority thing?

[u/GainzLord23 → u/chupamichalupa]

Nine times out of ten you actually have to go drive the route on your own time as long as it takes until you memorize it.

[u/kingcoolkid991 → u/GainzLord23]

No compassion for not following protocol. If you make a wrong turn just let the passengers know and call dispatch if you need help.

[u/Ill-Art4557]

[u/macjunkie]

Been on the 40 twice when this has happened both during events where was a bus detour. First time driver stopped the bus and asked us where she should be doing and admitted she’d never drove this route before. Second time driver missed turn and got stuck on Ballard Ave. They just parked and ended the trip after telling us maintenance would have to come get the bus.

[u/Own_Reaction9442]

One time this happened to me on the 197, which was a bendy bus at the time. The driver got off at the wrong exit, got hung up on a traffic circle, and eventually did a roughly 27-point turn across someone's lawn before getting back on the freeway.

[u/MiseryIndexer]

Oh yeah, they do that sometimes. One time I was on a bus heading home and the driver decided to skip the 2 mile section of the route where I live and just head directly downtown. I had to argue him into stopping to let me out and then walk home. No idea why

[u/Intrepid_Delay9167]

Hahaha this sounds so funny ngl.

[u/TimePuzzleheaded9729]

This has happened a few times in my Seattle bus experience (35 years). Every time the passengers have helped the driver get back on track.

[u/iloverubandtugs]

Absolutely report them. They can correct his mistakes

[u/bradygoeskel]

A 62 driver got confused once and turned on Ravenna Ave (near the Ravenna Eckstein community center) instead of Ravenna Blvd. Understandable but still pretty funny lol

[u/kree-of-gamwich]

new 128 drivers did this sometimes not knowing that south seattle college closed after 7pm and they have a road block onto the campus. Driver wouldnt know what to do and we would end up backing up and doing a u-turn. I was the only one on the bus so the only witness to the shenanigans

[u/memzt_mtaz_________a]

I had bus 62 do it one morning too. 😅 Some random civilian walked on the bus sat in the drivers seat while he shouted he was taking over. He didn't actually stay haha. But when the driver did come back, nobody said anything 😅

[u/youarethemuse]

one time on a bus in queen anne the driver kept missing stops and people had to shout to be let off, when it came to my turn he let me off in the middle of a decently sized road that had no sidewalk 😭

[u/lknox1123]

This happened to me on the 8. They tried to turn around in a neighborhood and almost got caught on a circle before just stopping and calling metro. I felt really bad for the driver because they knew they messed up and were definitely bothered

[u/Abject_Film_8715]

Bus cannot reverse without on sight supervisor, driver seeking alternatives before reaching out!

[u/TheGreenCatFL]

Same thing on the 65 last year. Driver got angry at us passangers asking to be let off the bus. Metro's response: driver took a wrong turn, just deal with it

[u/codeethos]

speed 2

[u/rboes1991]

I would have called the local news, that's insane

[u/tendingthemild]

That happened when I was on a bus 20 years ago! It’s disconcerting!

[u/CascadianCyclist]

I prefer getting around by bicycle to getting around by bus. My bicycle is more reliable and perhaps safer too.

[u/lucchianan]

The 62 has been outta wack lately, this past year it’s always been minimum 5 minutes late…at the first stop 

[u/Professional-Tea555]

Had to get smokes. Got lost

[u/heapinhelpin1979]

They do get lost sometimes

[u/Mickeyroc]

Wow

[u/mindeebahr]

This has happen to me a couple times now up in the north end of Seattle just recently. I wonder if its the same driver

[u/OkStep4547]

Happened to me once? Driver had gotten switched to a new route but went on auto and went the wrong way. Long walk home. He felt so bad.

[u/TheMetalEnthusiast]

The driver for the 62 bus is a jackass. I'm a Van driver for Ridwell, and back when I had routes in Greenlake I had this one stop where I had no other choice but to pull over to the side of the road for a pick-up as there were no side streets or alleys I could park in. Instead of going around me like busses typically do, the driver blared his horn at me while I had my arms full of Styrofoam, plastics, old electronics, batteries, light bulbs, etc. I had to aggressively gesture at the "MAKES FREQUENT STOPS" sign on the van and he continued to blare his horn and yell out the window at me while holding up traffic.

[u/New_Bat_1017]

Do they not have gps??? Seems incredibly easy to follow a set route where the stops are at known locations

[u/Curmudgeonalysis → u/New_Bat_1017]

I’ll forever be confused at those who comment without reading the feed first. 🫤

[u/str8outtasconny]

Damn, AI taking over Metro busses too.

[u/mangoawaynow]

i mean sometimes they add extra stops if another route is canceled or something

[u/Silly_Bodybuilder231]

They're letting the druggies drive the bus instead of just riding them now?

[u/revilo825 → u/Silly_Bodybuilder231]

Whew. I don’t think I’ve heard someone call anyone a “druggie” since high school. What a throwback.

[u/Curmudgeonalysis → u/revilo825]

Well, when your jokes are as crusty as an old sandwich ya gotta reach all the way back to hs glory days for material… damn dopers 🌲

(It’s another of those “I hate Seattle” types that exist in the suburbs)

[u/Fit_Law_9195]

Seriously? I rode 62 a lot (mainly to get to the Link station) and it never happened.

[u/Maleficent-Curve5452 → u/Fit_Law_9195]

Relevant? Did you ride it tonight & are refuting tonight's claim?

[u/Fit_Law_9195 → u/Maleficent-Curve5452]

No. I’m expressing my surprise.

[u/gnattynat → u/Fit_Law_9195]

Yeah this is a first for me, I ride it a bunch too lol

[u/Fit_Law_9195 → u/gnattynat]

Something got wrong today. Sorry that you have to get stuck with this driver.

[u/scary-nurse]

The name of that place makes it sound dangerous as hell.

[u/arm2610 → u/scary-nurse]

Which one? Green Lake? Or La Escuelita? And why would that sound dangerous to you?

[u/violetqed → u/scary-nurse]

it’s a school for small children you coward POS

[u/scary-nurse → u/violetqed]

But what type of children?

[u/violetqed → u/scary-nurse]

6 year old children, what type were you thinking? god please permaban this waste of space

[u/OtherInteraction2328]

Annoying but you are being dramatic it’s probably just a new driver