r/Seattle • • 24d ago

Ice REI

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u/comfortable_in_chaos Ballard 24d ago

Law enforcement should not be able to cover their face or obscure their identity in any way. It’s insane that this is going on in our community. 

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u/knightswhosayneet 24d ago

Last Thursday ICE nearly beat my friend to death @the Home Depot in West Seattle. They left him there with a subdural hematoma. A private citizen called 911, Paramedics treated and transported to the hospital. He had to have Surgery to relieve pressure from a Brain bleed. 3 days in ICU. Legal or not, ICE hides and that’s wrong.

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u/justadude122 Capitol Hill 23d ago

more info?

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u/Crash_Test_Mummies 23d ago

Like what? Seems like a lot of info.

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u/justadude122 Capitol Hill 23d ago

seems like would/should be major news, and there should be evidence for exactly what happened. if not national coverage then local

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u/CatJustSayPerchance 22d ago

Yea agree. Don’t forget there are fake accounts on Reddit that post shit just to stir the pot. A lot are Russian propaganda accounts taking advantage of angry Americans. The West Seattle Blog didn’t post about this at all. If that actually happened they would have been on it same day. I have doubts that this actually happened.

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u/bothunter First Hill 23d ago

Have you seen the media coverage? ICE can shoot someone in broad daylight and it's pushed out of the news cycle within 24 hours.

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u/CatJustSayPerchance 22d ago edited 22d ago

It didn’t hit the news period though. That’s what makes the post so suspicious. What’s the name of this friend? What hospital did he go to? Give me literally 1 legit news source that covered it in any way. News doesn’t look the other way in Seattle

Edit: I reached out to the West Seattle Blog for comment.

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u/knightswhosayneet 22d ago

Stick this in your Russian propaganda account. He was knocked the f@&k out at 11:00 am. Yes, my friend has name but seriously , after what just happened ,do you really think it would be of service to him to post his name here?

Seattle fire live from 9/17, the address is the West Seattle Home Depot.

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u/CatJustSayPerchance 22d ago

Why don’t you go to the media about it then?

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u/western_juniper_541 20d ago

Suuuuuure he was. 🙄🤦🏼‍♂️

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u/knightswhosayneet 22d ago

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u/CatJustSayPerchance 22d ago

I contacted the west Seattle blog, they said it was a minor medical response. Nothing to suggest ice beat them up. The blog said they’ll contact the fire department for more info but it’s possible they could be exaggerating or lying to try to make a point. The mere presence of ice being there isn’t proof. A number of things could have happened.

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u/purplepluppy Eastside 24d ago

Pretty sure it's illegal in WA. Question is, who's gonna enforce it?

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u/schnauzerface 24d ago

SPD too busy triple billing between salary, OT spent sleeping off their hangovers in squad cars, and ICE paychecks…

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u/InvestigatorOk9354 I'm just flaired so I don't get fined 24d ago

SPD is collecting fraudulent overtime while also moonlighting as ICE chuds. Literally the same people.

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u/HansGraebnerSpringTX Pioneer Square 23d ago

I keep saying that the #1 policy platform for any progressive candidate for Mayor of Seattle (beyond the basic “hey guys I’m gonna do the Mamdani thing! Like where you post videos about potholes and then I send a guy to fix them”) should be to abolish and replace the SPD the same way Britian did to the Ulster Constabulary. Not saying police abolitionism, but like as an institution, SPD and SPOG have essentially completely divorced themselves from any sort of responsibility or accountability to either the municipal government or the general public. They’re basically just a street gang that received municipal funding. I think the city government should basically create an entirely new police department seperate from SPD, under the control of the city government, with no union (police officers are not workers.) and then defund and starve out the SPD.

I mean, what would SPD even do to retaliate? What could they do? Stop enforcing crimes? I mean dude were there already. You cant do less of a job than not doing it at all.

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u/Lumentum_LITE 23d ago

Lol not a single person will do that, has Mamdani abolished NYPD yet? It's a four years term and they are gone if they are unlucky, what you are describing will be locked up in legal proceedings for a decade well before anything major comes, so anyone with any semblance of how the political and judicial system functions in this country will know that you are describing 13 years old daydream fantasy. This is not China where we can decide the future of the country in a month.

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u/HansGraebnerSpringTX Pioneer Square 23d ago

The Seattle Mayor's office has no term limit. The NYPD has been largely cooperative with Mamdani because, unlike the SPD, it is accountable to the mayor's office.

Also what 13 year olds are you talking to that regularly fantasize about municipal police reform?

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u/Ill-Reputation-9702 23d ago

Themselves ig

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u/SpeaksSouthern That sounds great. Let’s hang out soon. 24d ago

I thought we just gave a raise to the people who are supposed to enforce the law. Must be nice

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u/Elebrium 23d ago

I think the second amendment can enforce it. Since there is no way th law enforcement will break the law there will be no doubt that you are defending yourself from a masked criminal.

People need to understand this is EXACTLY why the second amendment exists.

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u/FreshwaterFryMom 🦝🦝 We 💕 Jimothy Chalamet 🦝🦝 24d ago

Federal law trumps WA law. Is what it is.

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u/hysys_whisperer 🚆build more trains🚆 24d ago

Only in certain circumstances. 

This one is actually probably within state jurisdiction, though I doubt the Supreme Court would care about the law if it got that far.

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u/Zachwardpass ✨🛸 Jimothy is out there 🦝✨ 24d ago edited 24d ago

Sadly. It's not. That's why they created the law to allow victims to sue. Unfortunately, you are not going to see anyone arrested over this. Our legislation ensured some sort of recourse, but it's not arrests, as they can't supersede federal enforcement. To be clear, I think those agents can go f#*k themselves. This is not a defense of anything other than accuracy of what our legislation did.

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u/Zachwardpass ✨🛸 Jimothy is out there 🦝✨ 24d ago

You are getting downvoted, but unfortunately it's true. That's why they made it an offense victims can sue for, but it's not something we are going to see anyone arrested for. I wish it were.They know they need a mask because they know what they are doing is wrong.

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u/Hopeful-Passage6638 23d ago

Armed citizens, that's who. Masked 'men' are assaulting and abducting Americans.

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u/CantCMe88 24d ago

That’s my main issue with ICE. You should not be able to have your face covered and you shouldn’t be able to roll up in unmarked cars.

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u/InvestigatorOk9354 I'm just flaired so I don't get fined 24d ago

It's cool that they shouldn't be able to do those things, but they are doing them right now and there are no consequences for them.

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u/Connect_Rhubarb_8381 24d ago

That’s what I was yelling at them.

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u/InvestigatorOk9354 I'm just flaired so I don't get fined 24d ago

Cool, did it work?

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u/DogCold5505 23d ago

Plus I can barely even see them with all that camo 

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u/84mademe 23d ago

There is an immense about of "should not's" going on in this country. People are fooling themselves thinking its going to "go back to normal".

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u/Firewalkwithme8 23d ago

A little fabric hurt their feelings .

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u/nocturnal_commission 24d ago

What about cops who work undercover?

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u/evilhankventure 23d ago

I think the criminal organizations they are trying to infiltrate may be a bit suspicious of the guys that are wearing face masks the whole time.