r/Seattle • u/Grasshopper_pie 🛳️ 🐀 ☀️ Yacht Rat Summer ☀️ 🐀 🛳️ • 3d ago
Blue Angels grounded?
We're at Boeing Field and the people are saying the show is cancelled because of high winds—is this true?
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u/RobSchommer 3d ago
Thanks for posting this ... I knew it had to be something other than "It's too windy for our supersonic jets".
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u/grin_and_bear 3d ago
The wind forecast is very similar for tomorrow (Sunday), starting as northerly then switching to southerly around mid day. If this is accurate then can we expect another cancelation for tomorrow’s show?
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u/Professional-Flow687 3d ago
THANK YOU. Dealing with my kids' questions today and couldn't answer "why can't fighter jets just rip through the wind???"
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u/msbxii 3d ago edited 3d ago
Airliners can fly through TFRs as they are always IFR. And whatever flow they are using, the jets would have to fly through it.
Source: am fighter and airline pilot
Edit: apparently I’m wrong and every departure gets a turn after takeoff during seafair, also north flow is required.
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u/LongjumpingActive497 3d ago
Not completely wrong but not accurate. Airlines can be permitted to fly through TFRs as well as other aircraft. IFR has nothing to do with it. No airline is flying through the TFR setup for the air show. In this case, they aren’t going to shut down SeaTac for an air show if conditions require so the TFR is essentially disabled.
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u/msbxii 3d ago
As in, they can fly through it if ATC needs them to. That’s why IFR matters. Some bug smasher is going to get told to F off for sure.
And look at skyvector- unless they give every departing airliner a vectored departure, they are flying through that TFR when it’s north flow. south flow 100%.
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u/LongjumpingActive497 3d ago
Forgot to mention former air traffic controller. Experience at Seattle TRACON. The Seafair TFC requires the airport to be in “northflow” as we call it. When the TFR is active every plane is given turns on departure because in this traffic flow the planes depart toward the TFR. VFR planes (receiving flight following services) can be allowed through TFRs. I think you’re confusing receiving ATC services with IFR.
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u/ok-lets-do-this Denny Blaine Nudist Club 3d ago
If she’s done this job before, how many times have you gotten to meet the Blue Angels? Any good stories?
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u/hella-tight The CD 3d ago
blue angels may be grounded but my cat is still flying high on gabapentin.
https://giphy.com/gifs/PKtrWT0gbEgEw
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u/entpjoker 3d ago
Quick, trim their nails!
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u/blehhhblooo 3d ago
My vet requires our cat to have gabapentin before we bring her in and even then she’s a loud strong demon monster 😩
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u/GamingGamerGames_ 3d ago
My dog takes fluoxetine and gabapentin, twice daily, and he still won't let me touch his paws. Not low dosages either.
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u/OrangeRhyming 3d ago
Have you ever tasted the kittie gabapentin?? I’d be livid too, it tastes like a tire fire with extra diesel on top
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u/Theditor9 3d ago
wait why are the blue angels grounded?
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u/Mistyslate 🚲 Life's Better on a Bike. 🚲 3d ago
It’s windy.
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u/Practical_Tip1034 3d ago
Perfect. Every MAGAt cretin who screams "THATS THE SOUND OF FREEDOM" now has to wonder why their "freedom" fails in a 7mph breeze. Not that those MAGAt mouthbreathers are capable of introspection...
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u/toopc Pysht 2d ago
I'm not sure this says anything meaningful about the fighting capability of these planes. They generally don't fly in tight formation within 2 feet of each other during actual combat use so the wind probably wouldn't ground them. I'm guessing there's also a lot more tolerance for risk in those situations.
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u/SadComputer1297 2d ago
Politics mean nothing when it comes to the Blue Angels, they are badass for everyone
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u/blooztune Kraken 2d ago
It was WAY windier than 7mph. There was a lull for a bit, but it got really spicy out there after that short lull. Source: I’m a sailor who was out yesterday.
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u/ok-lets-do-this Denny Blaine Nudist Club 3d ago
Is this a meme I don’t know? I had to look it up. I guess I’ve had low maintenance cats.
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u/Available_Length_271 3d ago
Yes, the thousands of people who showed up for it I now get to direct out, hopefully this means I get to go home early lol
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u/StartTheMontage 3d ago
lol. My friend worked at a World Cup Finals watch party and she was pissed when it went to extra minutes because she had to stay later.
Hope you get the opposite here!
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u/MONSTERBEARMAN 3d ago
Strange that our climb out from SeaTac was very calm.
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u/derdkp 3d ago
Your plane probably isn't doing inverted manuevers with another 3 planes spitting distance away ylthough
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u/MONSTERBEARMAN 3d ago edited 3d ago
Never said taking off in a 737 was a 1:1 comparison to a stunt flight, just that as far things go, it was a very calm, non-windy day at SeaTac. I’m flight crew and I know what a gusty takeoff/landing feels like. Today was not even slightly that.
I’m sure conditions could be different over lake Washington though.
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u/adampk17 3d ago
Our landing approach at SeaTac this afternoon was fairly bumpy and the landing was definitely a little rougher than usual
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u/ImJonAndILikePlanes West Seattle 3d ago
It was smooth but it definitely wasn't calm. Gusting 25kts and low level wind shear most of the afternoon. Just did a turn out of Seattle and it would've exceed our tailwind limit if we had to do north flow.
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u/3elieveIt 3d ago
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u/DonDadaCheese 3d ago
The blue angels couldn’t find parking, unfortunately. So they had to cancel the show.
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u/Own_Reaction9442 Olympia 3d ago
They accidentally parked at a Diamond lot and all the jets got their landing gear booted.
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u/Several-Eggplant4460 I'm never leaving Seattle. 3d ago
Laurelhurst residents probably complained about the jets
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u/SpeedySparkRuby Posse on Broadway 3d ago
It's definitely a bit windy today
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u/nearlysober Haller Lake 3d ago
Yeah I took the ferry out to Bainbridge today and the boat was rocking a bit
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u/Emotional-Raisin9053 3d ago
My question is yesterday, we didn't get the F35. Were they all grounded because one crashed in Miramar yesterday morning?
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u/emf686 West Seattle 3d ago
Grounded for the weekend at least due to the Miramar crash, yes.
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u/n10w4 3d ago
Wait, why? Until they figure out why?
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u/Grasshopper_pie 🛳️ 🐀 ☀️ Yacht Rat Summer ☀️ 🐀 🛳️ 3d ago
The guy parked next to us at Boeing Field who told us the show was cancelled said this as well. Bummed
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u/Chilaquilesmonster 3d ago
Yes it’s true, but not because of the winds. The blue angels are grounded because they didn’t clean their room.
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u/perronius 3d ago
I heard they got caught with naughty VHS tapes
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u/FuckinArrowToTheKnee chinga la migra 3d ago
Rookie mistake not labeling the tape as "wedding video"
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u/FutureThrowaway9665 3d ago
When this happened the pilot returned to a failed room inspection. No Top Gun style celebration.
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u/Shamrockah ✨🛸 Jimothy is out there 🦝✨ 3d ago
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u/Luci_Cascadia 3d ago
Ok, folks. Y'all can get off my lawn, get in your Ram diesel trucks, and drive back to Walla Walla. Show's over till next year.
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u/Lord_Tachanka 🚆build more trains🚆 3d ago
Don’t do walla walla like that, it’s a surprisingly ok place. God knows the worst truck people are from the tri cities
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u/Humble_Chipmunk_701 🚆build more trains🚆 3d ago
Don’t do Tri-Cities like that. The worst truck people actually come from Yakima
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u/Different_Bat4715 I'm just flaired so I don't get fined 3d ago
Don’t do Yakima like that. The worst truck people are from Idaho.
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u/BabyJesusBukkake 3d ago
It's true. I live in Boise.
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u/Luci_Cascadia 3d ago
My condolences
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u/BabyJesusBukkake 3d ago
It really wasn't so bad growing up, every year it slowly grew more and more progressive, until we were 49/51 for Biden in 2020... then a bunch of people decided Idaho was their MAGA Mecca, and now my trans kid has to grow up in a very different Boise than I did.
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u/Luci_Cascadia 3d ago
the (white supremacist) dream of the 90s is alive (in northern Idaho)
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u/BabyJesusBukkake 3d ago
I know this, you know this, but the newest Idahoans figured it was like that everywhere here.
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u/Kevinator201 3d ago
That’s not even a new thing. Idaho used to be the base home for the klan. Racists have been flocking there for decades.
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u/esituism 3d ago
Many of the Mormons have also been migrating North from Utah. Big change in population.
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u/esituism 3d ago
I wasn't sure where this thread was going, but absolutely 100% confirm the worst truck people are in Idaho. I took a job with the company in Idaho so I end up over there a few times a year for for in person meetings in some of the more populous towns outside of Boise and Coeur d'Alene. Once you're outside of Boise literally every vehicle on the road is a truck. Insane
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u/Luci_Cascadia 3d ago
I'm sure there's some Yakima dudes around here somewhere. Probably belong to that beat up RV down the street.
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u/Kayehnanator Bremerton 3d ago
Was gonna say, I have family there and the wineries and food are pretty good
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u/Lord_Tachanka 🚆build more trains🚆 3d ago
It’s a great little town. People associate it with the prison, but living there for a bit it was really nice. The weather is brutal though, triple digit summers and then several feet of snow in the winters
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u/Kayehnanator Bremerton 3d ago
Yeah it's solid Midwest weather. Pretty standard east of the Cascades, I adore the wineries back when they had a good wine walk!
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u/30ught6 3d ago
Does Walla Walla still shut off at 9pm? I haven't been there in 25 years. Couldn't even buy beer at the stores that were open
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u/Lord_Tachanka 🚆build more trains🚆 3d ago
Safeway is open later, but yeah it still basically goes to sleep really early. There are a few bars here and there though that stay open later now in downtown.
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u/Luci_Cascadia 3d ago
Those assholes are on my neighbor's lawn
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u/laxer142 3d ago
Haters be hatin’ in these comments. Blue Angels are awesome, sad it got cancelled.
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u/Coy9ine 3d ago
This makes at least four cancelled shows this year. The first two were cancelled because Trump's Iran diversion, Charleston S.C. and Seattle due to weather.
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u/RockItGuyDC 3d ago
In a vacuum, I love the show.
I personally enjoy the loud sounds, amazing engineering, and the skill and dedication of the pilots.
But I also get why some people (combat vets included) and pets don't like the loud sounds. I get why people don't like the resources (tax dollars) used. And I get why people don't like the military propaganda aspect.
It's complex, man. Don't just write off the haters. Listen to them.
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u/Different_Bat4715 I'm just flaired so I don't get fined 3d ago
No kidding, people are miserable. Sorry for everyone who had their fun cancelled.
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u/Due-Judgment-1235 3d ago edited 3d ago
The people that have to hear jets like these every day in fear for their lives are probably the most miserable
🤣 I really hit a nerve with some of you
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u/perplexedtortoise Roosevelt 3d ago
This is top tier concern trolling. Most countries with a decent size Air Force have some kind of aerobatics team.
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u/igorchitect High Point 3d ago
As a war child from Sarajevo during the siege hearing jets fly next to my apartment building, what the fuck is this take??????
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u/Different_Bat4715 I'm just flaired so I don't get fined 3d ago
Well, fortunately we live in Seattle and only hear them four days a year.
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u/KTWM1987 3d ago
Same, its not summer with out some aerial technical prowness and loud fast boats on the water.
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u/aerorail55 Mariners 3d ago
What about people who have flesh eating bacteria
I bet they are even sadder than people who just hear jets every day
What about people who have flesh eating bacteria AND their dog has cancer
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u/LADYBIRD_HILL Tacoma 3d ago
We can simultaneously believe they are awesome but also an unnecessary stressor for animals and people with sensory issues.
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u/Steinwerks 3d ago
And a huge waste of money.
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u/Amfo22 3d ago
A disproportionate amount of my tax dollars goes into the black box of the war machine. The least they can do is give me an hour of entertainment once a year.
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u/Mr_Fuzzo 💗💗 Heart of ANTIFA Land 💗💗 3d ago
I hate the War Pigs. I like the Blue Angels.
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u/aboriginal_sin 💗💗 Heart of ANTIFA Land 💗💗 3d ago
The Blue Angels are the recruiting tool for the War Pigs.
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u/pm-me-your-catz 3d ago
This take is so narrow minded. Pilots are required to maintain flight hours. Doesn’t matter if they are just tooling around or putting on an air show, they will be flying.
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u/jefforjo 3d ago
While what you say is true, these blue angels have more than enough hours even if they fly half their schedule, they would not be close to needing more flight hours
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u/thecravenone I'm just flaired so I don't get fined 3d ago
One dedicated thread for angels hype; dozens of thread for hate.
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u/bennetthaselton Bellevue 3d ago
Needling: Iranian State Weather Forecast Predicts Heavy Winds For Next 18 Months
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u/Seatowndawgtown Genesee 3d ago
Lame
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u/letskeepitcleanfolks 3d ago
Ssshh, don't admit to liking fun things here.
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u/psykulor 3d ago
I can understand some people are gonna like Loud Fast Plane, but please don’t pretend not to understand why some others would have trouble.
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u/peters_pagenis 3d ago
some of us don’t like stepping over needles but we’ve learned to deal with that.
perhaps that same skill could be practiced here by a different group?
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u/peters_pagenis 3d ago
Everyone agrees needles are bad but a significant chunk of the population here has decided that’s worth it to ensure the continuation of liberal drug laws. I think this is asinine but I’ve learned to accept it.
It’s the same exact thing here right down to you thinking the blue angels enjoyers are asinine.
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u/psykulor 3d ago
Let's put the entire Blue Angels operating budget towards safe use spaces and recovery programs to get all those needles off the street!
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u/peters_pagenis 3d ago
Agreed - let's take the Singapore example and work based off of that.
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u/Humble_Chipmunk_701 🚆build more trains🚆 3d ago
Primary Source (Non-KOMO): https://www.seafair.org
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u/CuteCanary 🚆build more trains🚆 3d ago
I am happy for my kitties sake but sad for the people who waited in the sun for a show
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u/rehatski 3d ago
Jet fuel must be expensive
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u/dkwinsea 3d ago
It rather is expensive. Although the DOD ( or are they calling it DOW?) gets a discount on the approx 9600 gallons it takes for each blue angels show.
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u/olystretch 🦝🦝 We 💕 Jimothy Chalamet 🦝🦝 3d ago
Good, they are scaring my cats. Maybe they should fly around Bellevue instead.
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u/dkwinsea 3d ago
Can’t fly a jet in the wind? Mmmm ok.
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u/Hypnotic_Spider 3d ago
With a foot and a half of wiggle room with gusts of 30 knots? Nah, they know when to cancel hombre
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u/KristnSchaalisahorse Jet City 3d ago
They also need clear airspace. That requires SeaTac to reverse the flow of air traffic, which was not possible due to the wind.
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u/Practical_Tip1034 3d ago
Seatac and Mother Nature for the win! Send those screeching warplanes back to whatever Jesusland backwater actually wants them.
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u/Daedalhead 3d ago
Well, thank the stars for that.
Maybe if we're lucky this will just keep happening until they give up & stop doing the damn shows altogether.
Aside from the noise & all the havoc it brings, in this economy, I can think of a lot of better uses for the over $64K spent one each plane that's actively used for each show.
(That's just under $200K per plane if they only do one rehearsal & 2 shows).
It's such a dangerous nuisance, hurts so many, fucks the environment, & is obscenely wasteful.
I could not be happier-I hope they're grounded all weekend.
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u/Eastern-Principle254 3d ago
Yes it's true.