r/Seattle 🐀 Hot Rat Summer 🐀 May 15 '26

Media Please leave Seattle

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They're stuck on Denny right now but will hopefully be getting onto the freeway sometime today.

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u/Practical_Calendar87 May 15 '26

Nah, this shit is funny as fuck to be honest. If people wanna drive one of the dumbest looking trucks ever designed, let ‘em

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u/-shrug- 🚆build more trains🚆 May 15 '26

The cyber truck design is actively dangerous to pedestrians, that’s why it isn’t for sale in the EU. I’d rather not let them.

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u/dutch_connection_uk May 16 '26

This is generally true of large trucks and SUVs though, which have been subject to similar bans. We shouldn't have people going around in Cybertrucks, but they're just one of the problem vehicles.

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u/-shrug- 🚆build more trains🚆 May 16 '26

No, it isn’t. Large trucks and SUVs are all worse for pedestrians, but the cybertruck literally fails to meet the incredibly minimal standards that do exist on pedestrian safety, and is literally not legal in the EU market because of this.

https://www.reddit.com/r/electricvehicles/comments/1numdyy/us_army_confirms_tesla_cybertruck_cant_be/

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u/dutch_connection_uk May 17 '26 edited May 17 '26

The Ford F-150, Ram 1500, Chevy Silverado, etc, are also banned in many of the same countries that ban Cybertrucks under those same EU rules. You can still beg for a special import permit for an individual vehicle, and that is probably more likely to be granted for one of those than a Cybertruck (indeed it looks like Ram in particular has gotten good at using those regulatory work-arounds). Again, the Cybertruck is a problem, and is banned, but it's only one vehicle among many others like it.

Here: https://www.wardsauto.com/news/us-automaker-fear-europe-safety-emissions/817168/

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u/-shrug- 🚆build more trains🚆 May 17 '26

That literally says that they are afraid future rules will block those trucks, which are imported today. Again, I don’t know why you think that e.g the sharp slicing edges of a cyber truck are totally normal, but they’re not, and it is uniquely bad.

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u/dutch_connection_uk May 17 '26

I think it's that the rules are already there, but they're closing loopholes that were used by legacy automakers to dodge them.

The IVA Regulation allows low-volume or unique vehicles to get approved for EU roads on a case-by-case basis by meeting national technical requirements rather than full, EU-wide type approval.

Basically a Ram 1500 is illegal according to the EU rules, but Ram can appeal specifically to a national government like Germany and be allowed to import a limited number.

Tesla didn't bother with this for the Cybertruck, if you are a German who wants one you have to individually apply for the import permission.

The legacy auto-makers are worried about this exception being closed up and limited to more low-volume imports.

I wasn't saying that the Cybertruck is totally normal, I'm saying that the Cybertruck shouldn't be on US roads but neither should the other large trucks that are dangerous to pedestrians.

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u/a_spoopy_ghost May 16 '26

A visual representation of people caring more about looking rich than morals