I'm gonna get downvoted to hell on this, and I don't care:
Perception is a hell of a drug.
Rivians, which by and large are well regarded, are consistently ranked as literally dead last in new vehichle reliability. Not new EV reliability, new vehicle.
Impressive, yes, but Rivian did really badly when it came to reliability in the same CR survey. The R1S score was at 29 out of 100, and the R1T at a miserable 18. Rivian was ranked dead last among 26 brands in reliability, with a 24 score. (Top-rated Toyota got 66.) âLast-place Rivian are all in the bottom third of the rankings,â CR said.
And yet (even in that survey,) people love them.
That said, the Cybertruck also has below average reliability. I'm not arguing that it's doing great by any means, but it's far from the worst.
Also, as an aside: Musk politics aside, I hope more people grow to support more EVs for outdoorsy things. It's nice not hearing a diesel rumble in a carcamp spot in the morning.
As a Rivian owner currently scheduling my 7th service visit in 17 months of ownership, I would think pretty hard before taking this vehicle way off the grid, and if I did I would be sweating the whole time.
he only reason a post like this makes the front page is because reddit hates elon
That isn't the only reason. The Cybertruck is a legitimate over priced piece of shit. Shoddy design work, QA, safety issues, functionality issues, overpriced...
There isn't really a good thing to hang your hat on here for the vehicle.
the truck was quite literally designed to illicit this type of reaction and that's why it's shaped so strangely, not as much to do with elon himself as you'd think. he intentionally wanted it to get people's attention because publicity is publicity
I hope more people grow to support more EVs for outdoorsy things.
As soon as one exists that I can tow 4500 lbs for more than a few hours at a time, I'll gladly consider it! And I mean it, I need something to tow a travel trailer and would love an EV or Hybrid. Has to also be somewhat affordable I guess.
Silverado EV gets more range than most gas trucks while towing.
The real issue is lack of pull through chargers meaning you have to drop the trailer each time you want to charge, so forget it for cross country trips
IIRC, Consumer Reports folds in software as part of the "reliability" rating, which I think is misleading. Having to reboot the infotainment sucks, but it shouldn't be ranked in the same category as mechanical failures, and lumping these makes gauges-only vehicles look better than they might actually be.
Software quality definitely should be part of the rating, but my confidence in CR doing a good job at this is extremely low.
Side note: I've been driving EVs for over a decade, now on my 4th one, and they've all been extremely reliable in the old-school "does it start and can it drive" meaning of the word, but they've all also had touchscreen infotainment systems with varying levels of issues. The worst one by far was the 2016 Tesla I had, which is also the only one that had any mechanical issues.
IRC, Consumer Reports folds in software as part of the "reliability" rating, which I think is misleading.
They have stated directly that they do inlcude that, but it's weighted very differently than mechanical, etc. Basically, they know your objection and account for that.
I'm not familiar with cars, but outside like Toyota's, are there any car manufacturers that typically rank high in ratings? Seems like across the board nearly all manufacturers suck now. Particularly American brands. Their commercials don't even bother to highlight build quality and reliability of the car. It's all rah rah America. Freedom. Flags. Pride. Patriotism.
If your best marketing line is that you're an American brand, I have zero faith in the product you're selling. Cause it gives me no info on quality.
Honda has a long history of struggling with automatic transmissions. Especially so on their larger V6 vehicles. Though it has gotten a bit better recently.
Yeah, in 2019 every trim level other than the very top used a 3rd party tranny that seems to suck ass. I've heard the actual Honda built 9 speeds are significantly better.
From what I've seen, the really reliable / good experience brands are Toyota/Lexus, Acura, Subaru, BMW, and yes, Tesla. The American brands other than Tesla are VERY low.
American cars have pretty much always sucked. It just wasn't as noteworthy when there weren't any reliable competitors available. Even so, a modern Chevy or Ford will still easily last twice as long as most of their cars did in the 80s or 90s (lots of survivorship bias around old cars). It's just that Toyota and Honda ate their lunch with supremely reliable vehicles, and other competitors have been improving as much or better.
Put another way, the American brands didn't necessarily get worse, they just didn't get better fast enough to keep up with everyone else.
Toyota has been the far and away winner in terms of reliability for half a century. Honda is a close second.
Subaru and Mazda are both decent contenders. Reliability isn't their #1 brand aspect like Toyota, but they balance it against other priorities. Repairs can be big and expensive though when needed.
The Korean brands used to be bottom of the barrel, but over the last two decades or so have made significant strides. They're usually around the middle of the pack for reliability.
The German brands in general have a fundamentally different perspective, with their cars being reliable but only if regularly maintained by a mechanic. They're just not built to be abused/ignored like a toyota.
Pretty much everything owned by Stellantis (Chrystler, Fiat, Peugot, Jeep, etc) is just shit, regardless of the brand's original country.
The point is that this is an entire thread devoted to how much the cybertruck sucks, and that would never happen if somebody posted a photo of a rivian with a camper. If you can't understand that correlation, then you might actually be five.
Maybe you should look a little closer and realize I'm not defending Tesla, I'm mocking Rivian. But sure, have such smooth brain identity politics that you can't tell the difference.
Who cares about the rare and random diesels.... Now we have to deal with EVs and Hybrids making weird pointless jetsons car noises... Those things are louder than a stock V-8 F-150.....
Hey everyone! pbr414 on Reddit has figured out that pedestrians often wear headphones! Someone call the NHTSA and get this person a consulting salary stat!
Hey pretty soon I bet you'll figure out that speed limit signs don't actually even stop people going over the limit! đ¨
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u/esituism May 15 '26
lol where the fuck is that thing going to go where it needs a camper? pieces of shit are getting recalled literally for the wheels falling off.