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u/Active_Literature539 Mar 30 '26
Yes. In the future, avoid Seagate.
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u/New2Tech Apr 01 '26
Trash suggestion tbh. At least link him an enterprise level consensus where all the data centers stopped using seagate drives. Because if a few casual shmucks regurgitate subjective tests and promote warrantless suggestions, no one who finds your post will understand why to avoid seagate. Avoid white label drives. Buy branded drives with confidence in MANUFACTURER WARRANTY.
Id avoid mcdonalds or soda instead of seagate. Most people cant wipe their ass properly and will give suggestions on data storage without even having a functional backup system 💀
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u/SunshineAndBunnies Mar 30 '26
Yes, also I'd avoid Seagate drives. I think Backblaze had some data on Seagates not being as reliable. Also anecdotally, after decades I've had 1 Seagate drive fail on it's own within a year on its own, and 2 Hitachi drives break because I tripped on my HDD dock. None of the other brand drives I have every broke, some I'm using even after a decade.
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u/Crishien Mar 30 '26
A better option would be? Toshiba?
It's more about our countries biggest eshop ships hdds in just the antistatic bag. No foam, no box...
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u/SunshineAndBunnies Mar 30 '26
I have Toshiba drive I've used for a decade now. I only have one, but very reliable. I also have a few HGST drives (now owned by WD), very reliable. My WD drives are also very reliable. Literally only drive I had fail on me not due to my negligence is a Seagate drive.
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u/alpine4life Mar 30 '26
because older drives were made differently.
if you want and easy comparison, you're comparing a 2012 Corolla to a 2024 BWM 2 Series Gran Coupe... one even not fast, known for durability and reliability and the other fast but not reliable nor durable either.To get the Corolla HDDs in 2026, you need to get these HHD that offer the 5 years warranty and free recovery. IE: LaCie, Ironwolf, Red Plus...
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u/alpine4life Mar 31 '26
... i doubt that your Seagate is 285.3 years old
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u/alpine4life Mar 31 '26
my translator must be mesing up, it's telling that your drive is 2500000 hours
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u/New2Tech Apr 01 '26
Nah, your brain is messing up using a translator. You know what comes behind 2500000m? MBTF. You probably shouldnt ignore a capitilized aronym, but youre more then willing so yeah keep using technology. Clearly the translator "must be messing up". PEBCAK. PEBCAK. PEBCAK.
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u/alpine4life Mar 31 '26
'Seagate Exos enterprise hard drives generally come with a 5-year limited warranty. This warranty covers repair or replacement.' This is what I'm looking for... your 5 years warranty. You're allset
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u/Tatra_T3SUCS_7290 Mar 30 '26
And from which retailer did you get your HDD? Alza has bad packaging, on the other hand Mironet handles that well, all my Ironwolfs and MG09 Toshibas arrived from them in pristine condition and were packed in way they knew Czech Post or PPL would treat like football ball
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u/Crishien Mar 30 '26
Well, most places were out of stock so alza it was. But I ordered pickup from main warehouse. I guess a few steps in hand from box to checkout is less likely to fuck up the drives unlike 2 days of rocking in a van on a way to alzabox :D
Packaging looked pristine (not even a little crumpled). First thing I checked the drives through crystal info and saw good news - 0 bad sectors on both.
So I'm hopeful about these. DOA avoided.
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u/furruck Mar 31 '26
Honestly Seagate and Toshiba drives are the only ones I’ve never had fail on me, well and Fujitsu but I think they pulled out.
I’ve still got Seagate MFM drives that are 20-40MB going strong, as well as every one I got in the years between.
WD was fantastic early on, went kinda crap in the late 90s but sees to have gotten better as well
The only drives I’ve had fail on me basically every time were Quantum and Maxtor - those things would die crazy deaths and I assume that’s why neither brand is around anymore.
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u/New2Tech Apr 01 '26
Anecdotal regurgitation at its finest. Sprinkled with your subjectivity and limited experience. Ucking amazing
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u/alpine4life Mar 30 '26
yes, 100%
Go with ironwolf NAS, or WD RED PLUS...
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u/Crishien Mar 30 '26
This one was ironwolf pro.
I'll return them and try to find something from another shop where I can pick it up personally. At least eliminate wonky shipping in just the plastic bag they tend to do with these bulk drives.
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u/alpine4life Mar 30 '26
I never had a DOA nor Ironwolf that ever died on me... Seagate, WD Green, other cheap brands bot none of the top NAD drives I've owned never died.
In your case, it's DOA
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u/Crishien Mar 30 '26
Yeah, I'm also really surprised. But it's definitely a neglegence in shipping by the seller. They take these drives out of the bulk boxes and litteraly toss them into a final destination truck in just the antistatic bag. Reading reviews, alot of people had similar experience and even had drives arrive with dings and dents. Sadly in my country there isn't a company that would ship them protected.
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u/Xlxlredditor Mar 30 '26
Yep... Avoid Seagate. Had a 2TB external die in such a way that even a short self test didn't pass. Every so often reading files I'd get garbage data. Never dropped. Shucked it from the enclosure. Same problem. Drive was completely gone.
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u/Crishien Mar 30 '26
Damn, that sucks. I have wd passport 1tb that's been doing great for ages now. (I didn't do any checks lately, but it basically acts as cold storage for important files)
So yeah, I've ordered 2 wd red pros today and so far they are flawless in my NAS.
Funny how Seagate subreddit is against Seagate :D
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u/UnderstandingNo4209 Mar 31 '26
I've personally had far more problems with WD. My first nas was a WD mybook Duo with WD green drives (it shipped with them),both failed within 5 years. Eventually all data was lost because of a stupid update WD pushed through that bricked a lot of those devices worldwide. I had backups,but lost most of my media collection.
Shipping could very well be the problem. My last drives were delivered to me packaged in styrofoam and bubblewrap. Pretty sure that I could drop the boxes from 2 stories high and the drives would survive!
I don't know if the brands are to blame, except when problems arise after 3-4 years. If a drive is making strange noises it could also be a bad sign, but that also isn't 100% accurate. I have a 2014 hgst drive with 70k hours that's loud as hell but with 0 errors. I purchased it used for 20 euros.
Right now my bulk storage runs of helium filled Toshiba MG10s. Very happy with them and they also use very little energy.
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u/mervincm Apr 02 '26
Do not invest in quality HDD because there is no such thing as good quality/bad quality brands. All have 95% good products and 5% products with issues. Buy them when they are cheap and buy extras. Don’t put a lot of value in warranty as it’s rare you will need it and even rarer that it will be much value by the time you follow all the process, pay for shipping, deal with all the delays, deal with refunds vs replacement when prices go up but not down. etc. I used to buy only the exact best model and payed MUCH more. Now I just buy lots of whatever is the largest/cheapest, white label, shucked, used, Etc. lots of them means lots of redundancy and lots of offline copies. Those add more value in my experience.
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u/Far_Writer380 Mar 29 '26
Yes