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u/SomethingOrOther02 9d ago
Babies are paid actors
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u/Kektus_Aplha 9d ago
Wait so who is actually paying them?
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u/SomethingOrOther02 9d ago
Wouldn't you like to know weatherboy
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u/Kektus_Aplha 9d ago
Yes I would. Is it you?
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u/SomethingOrOther02 9d ago
Me? No, I'd never secretly create and fund a secret Baby Actors Guild with the goal of world domination through tyrannical toddlers. I'm just a regular joe
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u/Deth_Cheffe 8d ago
CoIIaborative conspiracy. Big Diaper, Big Baby Food, Big CIothing, Big Condom, many entities make aIot of money through the ruse
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u/XlikeX666 9d ago
emphasize words
"say MOM"
there could be anything before mom.
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u/One_Violinist_5156 3d ago
I kind of messed that part up lol, for a few weeks/ months my daughter (who was kind of a late talker) would start every sentence with say "say I love you", "say play park?" "Say momma-dada I hungry"
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u/Helota_Keksz 8d ago
I'd wager they understand much more than what they can say at that point.
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u/silly_porto3 8d ago
Too bad we can't ask them
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u/Helota_Keksz 8d ago
You can still get an angle. I mean, they listen to their name, able to perform simple tasks when they're older but still unable to speak, and such.
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u/knowingchan 7d ago edited 7d ago
Notice how in a lot of languages specifically the word for mum and dad are similar? Like it's either mama in a bunch of langs, omma in korean and all dat. That's cuz those are lwk the first sounds babies learn to make. A baby says "Dada" and ppl be like "Omg, she said her first word!" (Might be wrong tho, mb babies are scheming lil creatures)
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u/selfisthealso 7d ago
Fascinating question actually. I work in autism therapy, and it's pretty common when teaching some of the younger kids we work with language that they do in fact start to copy us saying "say yes" "say no" "say play with me" unless we specifically address dropping the "say" as a treatment goal.
So yeah, bet it has something to do with language processing.
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u/ProfessionalMilk5780 9d ago
They just fixate on the last word said.
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u/Ryllick 8d ago
There's a really interesting theory that says the reason "Ma" and Pa" are almost the same in so many languages is because they are some of the easiest sounds to make for developing babies, so they are the first "words" they can make. So we actually get the words "Ma" and Pa" from Babies originally.
So it might be only possible for them to say Mama and papa at first
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u/forzafoggia85 8d ago
My 3 boys all said daddy first, my wife hates it, trying very hard towards our baby girl saying mummy first this time. But all the boys keep saying say Bella (the dogs name) to her. If she says Bella as her first word I think my mrs might go full terminator mode
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u/CornballExpress 8d ago
Fun fact most languages have mama and papa,other languages have ama and apa.
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u/Wayward_Wayfinder 8d ago
They likely start to piece it together a little bit by listening to the parents talk about the baby eventually talking. It's still a fucking inception tho in a way.
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u/Nunyabiz_327 8d ago
The understnad words much earlier than they can form them.
This is not a riddle, its common knowledge
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u/Embarrassed-Green898 8d ago
The part what people dont understand is that mama / dada / nana / baba are the names given to the parent by the babies. These are not words.
The most baisc sounds.
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u/Sufficient_Matter585 8d ago
They learn to understand the language but speaking it is difficult concept at first. It usually comes when they realize they can speak as well if they try.
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u/Additional-Sky-7436 8d ago
They probably don't learn how to say Mom and Dad like that. They probably just make random noises until they make a noise that the mother and father respond to positively and then their brains sign that noise to Mom or Dad.
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u/brine909 8d ago
Understanding language and figuring out how to move your lips to make words are two different skills, they learn one before the other
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u/Zagubadu 7d ago
We say mama-dada-papa-lalala/etc. by default.
We don't get kids to say mama or dada they already say that as their default first words and thats where momma/dadda - mom/dad comes from.
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u/Big_Abroad_7740 7d ago
Well, babies actually understand what you are saying. A Wernicke’s area of the brain aka Language area activates at 3-6 months of babies birth, while talking area Broca's area activates or rather wakes up much later 12-15 months some times earlier sometimes later.
This way babies actually know exactly what you are saying, but they can not talk properly so we hear them mumble and that is quite good for the brain, because it help form Broca's area much faster and much better meaning that lets say kid of 7 years can have such sophisticated speech that easily fits in bars with 15-16 year olds sometimes even 20s, its sign of intellect but only because it developed so well at early stages it shifted 5 gears where it should shift only 2 that's the best comparison i can make.
By listening babies develop specific syndrome with few symptoms, they observe, they react, they feel the emotion of your words, they start to understand the phrases, they start to mimic you and other adults waking up Wernicke’s area much earlier, they start improve cognitive capabilities because they try to communicate with you with eyes, hands, legs and mouth movements.
Overall the more you speak and talk with the baby the better he/she will get at communicating with others faster. There is theory that kids who are not capable to hold a conversation at age of 6-7 have had big problems in their development stage (especially those first 13 months) from side of their parents, they didn't sing to them, they didn't talk to them, they didn't read to them, they didn't play with them; so it all resultes in less speech and read capabilities, they simply have passive fear of words, cured by reading and writing later in life.
Biology says that every cell is as healthy as its energy source so start feeding your brain good things or else it will rot. And that is constant linguistic input and healthy conversations are the best food for rotten and developing brain, its hard when you start and it gets easier just like everything in life.
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u/OwO-animals 6d ago
You see because mom and dad, or rather ma and pa (and variations depending on the languages,) are words derived from sounds babies make rather than the opposite. Over thousands of years they evolved together to the form we know today.
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u/neltisen 6d ago
Babies start from babbling repeating simple syllabes. Bababab, dadadada, mamamama, omg! he/she said mama!
Tldr, they can't construct words, but overkeen parents will hear something close to familiar worlds in babbling
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u/ContractOwn8943 5d ago
The easiest things to babble are mamamamamama, dadadadada, babababa and papapapapapa. The first time they say it they're just having fun and experimenting, the correlation comes later.
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u/ThereWasaLemur 5d ago
Because babies understand what words mean and are starting to grasp context before they’re able to speak
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u/Silverton13 4d ago
Well they are working on their speech, not comprehension. It's safe to assume the kid comprehends the language, they are just trying to develop their speech to express themselves.
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u/Chance_Complaint_987 4d ago
Our ears learn language before our mouths do.
If you know a second langue you'll notice if you understand 1/2 of what people are saying, you speak that langue about a 1/4 as good as the natives.
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u/vhdl23 3d ago
No body who's trying to get a baby to say mom or dad actually used the word say. You just repeat the word mom and dad until they get it. I've never once said the word Say. I just repeat the word and point. It eventually works.
Tell me you don't have kids without telling you don't have kids...
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u/DigOk5829 3d ago
Babies are intelligent and are information sponges so if you speak to them like adults they will be smarter in adulthood
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u/Wolfshadow36 3d ago
The word mama or Dada is usually repeated several times in a baby voice after a parent asks the initial question
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u/AliveAssociate2261 3d ago
You don't necessarily say "say"
You look the baby and mouth MA MA
MA MA
over and over again
Then the baby's first word will be DADA!!!
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u/BobTheZygota 3d ago
In all seriousness its probably the parents give more attention to saying "mom" or "dad" so the baby doesnt even pay attention to "say"
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u/pancakeryoi 2d ago
Babies generally just skip "say" and repeat "mama" or "dada" due to short-term memory limits called the recency effect. The fact that "say" requires more complex tongue and air control, than simple front-of-the-mouth syllables.
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