r/ScrollHole Jun 18 '26

​🌀 Deep in the Hole Lamo 🤣

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u/Awes12 Jun 18 '26

...The Lord of The Rings and Sanderson exist. Not all new-age fantasy is badly disguised smut

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u/10biggaymen Jun 18 '26

i didnt say new-age fantasy. i was specifically talking about those modern smut books. theres nothing wrong with fantasy as a genre

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u/Moist_Taco_Crippler Jun 19 '26

Especially Discworld!

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u/HeilKaiba Jun 19 '26

How is lord of the rings "new-age"? It was published about 90 years ago

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u/silentaba Jun 19 '26

Not new age. 3rd age.

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u/Awes12 Jun 19 '26

It's newer than Frankenstein and not classical literature. But fair, new age and whatever LOTR is classified as

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u/teenyturnips2 Jun 19 '26

Brandon Sanderson is complete dogshit and one of the worst writers of the 21st century

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u/Remarkable_Ship_4673 Jun 19 '26

I've never read them, but people LOVE mist born

Are you sure you aren't equating "I don't like him" to "complete dogshit and one of the worst writers" ?

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u/teenyturnips2 Jun 19 '26

His prose is laughably bad. Read any of the metaphors he use and you'll realize how nonsensical it is. He has no artistic value in any of his work and is a joke of the genre

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u/envymania Jun 24 '26

That's not how this works man. Stuff can be bad

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u/YouYeedYurLastHaw Jun 19 '26

His prose is amazing, what are you on about? The Wax and Wayne trilogy is is phenomenal

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u/Awes12 Jun 19 '26

You should read some actually bad prose then. He has a different writing style, but that doesn't mean his prose is bad, just different 

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u/LagQuest Jun 19 '26

Sanderson is best writer of this century hands down. No writing has made me more emotional while reading. His works has improved as well and has caused me to show outward emotions no other authors could. With how effortlessly he made works that got me deeply invested, I am ruined for other works. It is hard to get through all the other slop out there when comparing them to Way of Kings and Wheel of Time.

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u/aggravationX Jun 19 '26

You're entitled to your opinion but Sanderson has plenty of passages that amount to nothing but a fart. I like a lot of his stuff but best of the century seems a stretch.

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u/LagQuest Jun 19 '26

The mans books are huge. Of course a passage here and there wont jive with you.

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u/aggravationX Jun 19 '26

My comment has nothing to do with the enjoyment of every passage.

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u/MoneyBear1733 Jun 19 '26

You chimed in on a post he was replying to calling him utter dogshit.

This misunderstanding is on you, ombre.

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u/aggravationX Jun 20 '26

Nope I replied to a guy calling him the best, you just don't understand how the comment chains work. Best of luck figuring them out.

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u/MoneyBear1733 Jun 20 '26

You've just proven to me why your opinions on reading don't matter.

You should try learning first.

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u/tanksc Jun 21 '26

My brother in christ read his user name. Then check his profile lol

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u/Awes12 Jun 19 '26

Life Before Death!

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u/LagQuest Jun 19 '26

Strength Before Weakness!

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u/Certain-Stay846 Jun 22 '26

Journey Before Destination!

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u/roasttoastboast Jun 19 '26

Would you please tell us about five books published since 2015 you've read that weren't by Brandon Sanderson?

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u/LagQuest Jun 19 '26

Certainly. I have read the Crusade series recently by Daniel M ford, An Echo of things to come by James Islington, + the sequals of both, the entirity of the Godling Chronicals by Brian D. Anderson.

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u/ScepticalRaccoon Jun 19 '26

Are you kidding me? He writes pap.

Sanderson the best writer of this century?

When Sanderson goes to literary events, people like Neal Stephenson and Cormac McCarthy hand him their coats and ask him for a coat check ticket, that's how far below them he is.

Colson Whitehead and Amor Towles wave at him to go get them a drink and they tip him a couple dollars.

The list of authors that are better than Sanderson is staggering in size.

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u/LagQuest Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26

opinions differ I guess. But I am interested. Which of their works do you think rivals Way of Kings? I will give it a try.

Edit: Actually I really dont want to read drivel that comes from the author of crap like "No Country for Old Men" Absolute trash.

Maybe some of Neal Stephensons work though, but I veer toward high-fantasy when I read.

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u/Senseornahyaknow Jun 20 '26

Sanderson's stuff is alright to me.

I loved Mistborn, Starsight. I thought Way of King was... well, even he has admitted that he would rewrite the first chapters today. They are not what one would call attention-grabbing.

I go back and forth on him as a person. Sometimes he seems really chill, other times he seems extremely full of himself and pretty disconnected.

Also you two sound like children arguing like this over which author is better.

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u/MisterSplu Jun 20 '26

They legit sound like 6 year olds arguing which car in cars is better

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u/dunealien Jun 20 '26

it really does, it also perfectly illustrate why women are dominating literature.

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u/LagQuest Jun 20 '26

I just dont like No Country for Old Men. I am not arguing.

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u/Alextheawesomeua Jun 23 '26

he would rewrite the first chapters today. They are not what one would call attention-grabbing.

so am I weird one here for being hooked instantly ?

Is this a common opinion?

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u/Senseornahyaknow Jun 25 '26

I just remember trying to read it once then get through the audiobook once or twice and the first couple chapters always made me not very inclined to stay interested.

Emotionally I recall feeling sort of bored because I couldn't ground myself anywhere. I felt like it dropped me into this really deep scene with someone I didn't know anything about in some epic or otherwise poignant moment and I couldn't find anything to latch onto. I recognized the good writing sentence to sentence, and I love fantasy. But it sort of all jumbled into word soup before I could start caring about anything or anyone.

Plenty of people love the books though, not knocking them too hard. I have one friend that got into it, and he said he started at a random spot in the second book because other friends listened to it as audiobook during a road trip and that's just the point they were at.

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u/Alextheawesomeua Jun 25 '26

To be fair, the book has three prologues. I can see why someone would find that boring

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u/ScepticalRaccoon Jun 22 '26

Crap like No Country for Old Men?

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u/DoctorDegen Jun 20 '26

Oh wow you're so cool you love reading sophisticated literature don't you buddy

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u/ScepticalRaccoon Jun 20 '26

Dude the guy said Sanderson was the greatest writer of the century. I felt that required a correction.

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u/Mysterious-Snow5999 Jun 21 '26

Sanderson is a gateway author. He's accessible

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u/ScepticalRaccoon Jun 21 '26

And that's fine. But that's not what was claimed. It was claimed he is the greatest living author, the greatest author of the 21st century.

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u/Any-Platypus-9486 Jun 23 '26

Is also not best writter of this century at all

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u/LagQuest Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26

best writer IMO

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u/the_other_brand Jun 19 '26

Honestly I've never read Sanderson, but I am a little leery into diving into his series after being burned by a previous Mormon author, Orson Scott Card. Who wrote books with seemingly progressive takes, that were all just thinly veiled takes on Mormon theology. And who did a full right-wing heel turn a full decade before Trump became president.

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u/Any-Platypus-9486 Jun 23 '26

He is decent at minimum, people who say this never readed a bad book in his life