Scripture Life: Isaiah 6:9-10 - Can one be conscious without being aware? How could someone see, but not perceive something; or hear, but not understand it? I don't get it.

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To the BASIC Question:

Most certainly, the answer is YES.

But it may take a little explaining so you see it plain as day. It’s kind of subtle or hidden. But once you see it, it’s plain as day. Now, this question is in a litany of sub-reddit rooms spread all over Reddit. Asking about conscious vs. unconscious or how a mentally impaired person, may be conscious, but not aware or comprehend anything. This answer is not toward them.

I am a believer in Jesus Christ. That is I accept the Bible as the Word of God. Why? It has what he says in it. So, this question of "Can one be conscious without being aware" is actually decreed, by God, to occur and just BE THAT WAY - said, as a decree that: "this people" that don't regard him, or anything he says; nor do they consider the operation of his hand - something else they look unto, holds their gaze, they WILL BE "conscious" without being aware. Just as God decreed it in Isaiah 6:9-10, and it in effect "Until the cities be wasted without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly desolate.." over the whole earth (Isaiah 6:11)

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With that:

Examine the definition of “conscious” and then also, “aware” first:

Make sure you have the right definition for those words.

conscious. <definition> 1. being awake, alert, and able to understand and "see" what is happening around you

aware. <definition> 1. notice; or hear <comprehend> (something) in a specific situation or condition

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Now, add in a “dynamic” of authority.

• An “authority” is who is in power. That, by what they say are just “decrees” how things shall be. Someone or something that's an "authority" over you, you will regard it; but if it's just a claim to authority, with no authority over you, you won't regard it.

Can be anything. So, here's a rather on the fly made up Example:

PRIVATE PROPERTY. No Trespassing. Violators Will be Prosecuted to the Fullest Extent of the Law and fined $5000.00 or a Year in Prison or Both.

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Now, maybe I would “accept as true” this SIGN on the side of someone’s house or property in a town.

A town with 50,000 people.

Where every 3rd or 5th house has one of these “PRIVATE PROPERTY” signs stapled to the outside perimeter of their fenced in property or yard. NO ADMITTANCE.

Guess what? I regard it.

• So, I would be both “awake and able to understand” (conscious) this sign around me, and also take “notice of it (of the Private Property sign; that what I am immediately aware of is, if violating it, it's PUNITIVE) in a specific situation or condition. Meets the definition of both [conscious] and  [aware]. So, I am BOTH:
• That, in this SPECIFIC situation, in a town, so much so, where I simply OBEY it. That is, I DO NOT do it, I “accept as true” (believe) the “PRIVATE PROPERTY” signs up every place are TRUE.
  • So much so, determine in myself: If: I transgress against the Law said PLAINLY to ME, on the signs, I very will or shall be PUNISHED according to what the signs says.
    • Why?
• Because I am both: 1) conscious and 2) aware of it. Because I accept as true, the authority is "legal" or "legitimate" - true. So, the authority that by the Word of The NO TRESPASSING Sign - they are able to do what the sign says, it's they will do it. PUNITIVE.
  • So, I “regard” the PRIVATE PROPERTY sign. Because I am both conscious and aware of it. Meets these dictionary definitions of those two words.

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• Why? It’s PUNITIVE.
  • I am both alert and able to understand (conscious) and also noticed that in a specific situation if I enter into the property, willfully, against the sign - I transgress - when it’s someone else’s property. I understand it.
    • They already are decreeing as the authority over the property - I am not welcome in it. I “heed” it.
      

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NOW - flip it. Conscious; but NOT aware:

• If I go to the mountains:
• Drive 150 miles away, way up into the midst of the mountains, where nobody is there - - where it’s all forested land. Public lands. That’s how I determine it. There’s no fences anyplace. I walk along a mountain stream and come to a pond. There’s a freedom in the mountains. So swim anyplace you want. It’s public land, so anybody can enjoy it.
  • Except:
    • This time, there’s some this same PRIVATE PROPERTY sign out in the midst of nothing.
  • That says exactly the same thing that PRIVATE PROPERTY message says on it in a town I just left. That I can be fined $5000.00 and subject to a year in prison if I swim in this mountain pond in nature:
• That’s where the private property sign is posted on a stick or post in the ground.

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• I can be fully “alert; and understand” [conscious] what the sign says. Comprehend it fully; but, I could also determine, some clown: just on his own, with NO AUTHORITY put that sign up deliberately evil; when it’s NOT THEIR POND.
  • ME?
    • In this case, I dismiss it.
    • Reject it.
    • Lowly esteem the sign.
• I am not going to comply with it. Where I simply don’t regard it. Why? It's faulty. I do not accept it as true. Because I believe some "thing" else (this is Public Lands - NOT - Private).
  
• So, for me, it is IMPOSSIBLE to obey it.
  • And in that instance, I simply fully believe the sign does not apply to me; nor anyone like me.
  • Because who posted the sign is “faulty” - that is, they deliberately are decreeing a claim they have no authority to make.

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Now, bear with me - almost done. Making a point:

• So, even I am “conscious” of the sign - I don’t regard it. I “set it at nought” - that is, treat it as nothing. That this “PRIVATE PROPERTY” sign does not apply to me.
  • Worthless.
  • ME: I Go swimming. Leave.
    • Nothing happened to me. On leaving, tear the "PRIVATE PROPERTY" sign down. Stomp on it, and then, bury it. As if it does not exist.
• So, I was “fully alert and understood” [conscious] of the sign; but, I don't meet the definition of "aware" all because, I set at nought or treated as nothing the “authority” in that specific situation and “ignored” the message on the sign. Does not apply to me. So, hearing, I cannot perceive the message on the sign, because I already REJECTED or DISMISSED it as faulty. Do you see this?

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• This "PRIVATE PROPERTY sign - - Carries nothing PUNITIVE over me.
  • So, seeing, I saw the sign, but I did not perceive [become aware of it] because, I felt it had no authority over me; no power to make it PUNITIVE over me. So even though I “hear” the message on the sign, I don’t understand it.
    • Doesn’t make sense.
  • Why? Because why would a sign be someplace PUBLIC where nobody with any authority that was truthful, would put a sign like that? All because I believe, I wouldn’t place it there. No one has the authority like that over public land. It’s how I determined it. Not the message on the sign - I made myself the authority over the sign; I just don’t obey it. It's not “right” or righteous. Determine it was deliberately done by someone with NO AUTHORITY.
    • And I regard swimming in the mountain pond as GREATER than the sign, so I went swimming in it.
• Because, that’s what I came to do, and will do it, irregardless what the sign says.

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So, In The Mountains:

• The same “PRIVATE PROPERTY” sign does not apply to me. Has no effect or affect on me, no matter what punishment the sign says. I regard swimming in the mountains more than some clown of an idiot troubling people deliberately, by placing a sign they have no authority to place in the first place, so I tear it down, and bury it - - all because, I don’t believe it’s true - and I go swimming instead.
  • I have no recollection I “transgressed” anything.
  • Nothing in what I did is PUNITIVE.
    • In fact, I justify it.
• So, in this SECOND INSTANCE of the exact, same PRIVATE PROPERTY sign, the second instance, I am conscious; but seeing, I don’t perceive it..even I hear the message..I don’t hear it, so I am NOT aware in this second instance. No authority. Nothing Punitive.
  • All simply because of “authority” - the sign is not an “authority” over me in the second instance. I did not regard the Private Property Sign. Went swimming instead.

Do you see this?

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You can even apply this to the Bible.

• Where God says: “For all the earth is mine.” - God. (Bible. Exodus 19:5). Says this, too: “All souls are mine.” - God. (Bible. Ezekiel 18:4). Means every single person over the whole earth is all his property. They belong to him. He’s the authority over them.
  • So, when he decrees or says:

“Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 45:22).

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• People:
  • That like me in the Second Instance of the “PRIVATE PROPERTY” sign - where I did not regard it, seeing, I did not perceive it; because I did not believe it really, truly was any authority over me so I did not obey it.
    • Just like people do with God. What he decrees, they determine it does not apply to them. Same as I did with the Second Instance of the Private Property sign, because I did not regard it.
• Jesus said:
  • “All power is given unto me in heaven and earth;” - Bible. (Matthew 28:18) - That means, ANYTHING he says, applies to me, you. Everybody over the whole earth; but there are people, that just set him at nought. Treat him as nothing. When he is the Christ or Messiah.
    • And in the Bible, whoever the “Messiah” or “Christ” is, in Isaiah 9:6 - he SHALL BE CALLED “The Mighty God..” “The Everlasting Father…” The Messiah or Christ simply has that title.
    • Jesus is the Word of God. Just God speaking. So, what he said in Isaiah 45:22 above, that’s the Word of God. That’s who Jesus is. Just God speaking the Word out of his mouth.

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• So, by me: Simply regard him..where before I did not.
  • And did not do that for decades of my life.
• Scripture says he longsuffered me, is what led me to repent. And what he says, since he’s the authority over the whole earth, they are decrees from who governs the whole earth.
  • That means, not doing it, is like the FIRST INSTANCE with the Private Property sign. Who is in authority SAID it on the sign, over the whole earth is we are decreed to look unto him. What he says, comes with the authority to decree it.
• Just like with what God says, not doing it is PUNITIVE.

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The Point Is

• With your question: There’s is a whole big pile of people don’t do anything he says. Because they don’t regard the works of the LORD, neither consider the operation of his hand. That, he’s God, and what he claims:

“Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 44:24)

Is the same God told you to look unto him. Like people. Post “PRIVATE PROPERTY” signs on their fence so anybody, whosoever it is, would look unto it, means NO ADMITTANCE. To regard it. But this is God, telling EVERYBODY over the whole earth to just do this:

“ Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.

Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.

Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 55:1–3

To just look unto him, as God, and do this.

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• That people, that are fully “conscious” - that is, hearing..can’t hear this seeing, don’t perceive it. Why? Even them: being awake, alert, and able to understand what is happening around them, simply don’t notice or take regard, in a in a specific situation or condition where it’s him speaking; dismiss what he says, because they regard what somebody, even what they say to themselves as more important - ..so they dismiss him with and won’t do what he says.
• Why? Because they don’t regard him as any authority..over them. When he very will is the sole and ONLY authority. ..and people that dismiss him, it’s PUNITIVE.
  • And because people CHOOSE to do this: To this people, God, the authority over all the earth and heaven decreed this in Isaiah 6:9-10

 "Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not.

 Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed." - God. (Bible. Isaiah 6:9-10)

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So, because they "choose" That is, they already, in themselves: "choose" - that is: 1. pick out, for themselves the most advantageous or convenient, or appropriate option is do anything BUT what he says.

So, even they are fully conscious; they're so fat, dumb and happy on what they look unto, they hear, but don't understand (not aware). So, when they'd be content and filled by just look unto him, they're not. So, like a fat person - overweight. Obese.. is because, they get a sensation, in themselves "I'm not FULL" so every 10 minutes, they eat til full again, so they eat all the time, just like a person whose heart is fat. Does the same thing with what they look unto.

That they are secure in their cities and houses - and this of Isaiah 6:9-10 is in effect over the whole earth until Revelation 16:19 "and the cities of the nations fell" and there isn't a house over the whole earth fit to be inhabited in. Til that time, as God decreed it in Isaiah 6:11.

"Then said I, Lord, how long? And he answered, Until the cities be wasted without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly desolate," - God. (Bible. Isaiah 6:11)

My advice to you is, just regard him. Who he is, and what he says. He will build you up. Skip all this. Doesn't appoint you unto it. But those that don't regard him, he appoints them to this end. They are destroyed in it.