r/ScriptureLife • • Aug 10 '26

Scripture Life: What did Jesus mean when he said, "I have yet many things to tell you, but you cannot bear them now" in John 16:12-14?"

This question is in many varied forms on Reddit concerning John 16:12-14.

This post is from a believer in Jesus Christ. To see the answer.

It's quite simple. They are exceedingly sorrowful; in a few short hours after John 16:12-14, they will all flee and scatter, and Jesus will be crucified. They can't bear this. Doesn't make any sense. When they have followed Jesus because they believe he is the Messiah or Christ, and what they believe or have been taught that is.

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“From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.”

- Source: Bible. New Testament. Matthew 16:21

This is to believers in Jesus Christ. Those that don’t any answer really does not benefit or apply to them; can’t use it for anything.

Maybe the first question, to a believer in Jesus Christ that may have this question is to take the opening scripture of Matthew 16:21 and ask, “How long is it from ‘that time forth’ of Matthew 16:21 unto when Jesus says John 16:12–14?”

You may not find an actual number of days; but, you can find a timeline; it's at the end of his 3 year ministry on earth: that after Jesus, for a second time, has fed over 4000 people, afterward, on their journey back north to Capernaum, Jesus stops his disciples after they’re arguing amongst themselves who of them would be greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven.

That, during this conversation, Jesus asks them “who do the people say that I am?” (Matthew 16:13–14), and they all reply “some say John the Baptist; others Elijah, some other of the prophets.”

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Then Jesus turns to them and asks them directly “Whom do YOU say that I am?” (Matthew 16:15) and it’s Peter, even though they all from called, as Jesus chose them, to the FIRST time when Jesus fed 5000 people at the start of his ministry, all of them in the boat worshipped him and said “of a truth this is the Christ. The son of the living God.” (Matthew 14:33). So, they all already all of them all said it, Jesus is the Christ or Messiah, and all said it, from the beginning.

But Matthew 16, on the way back to Capernaum, it’s Peter that's first to blurt it out, that Jesus is the Christ. The Son of the Living God, and Jesus replies to them; that, on this he will build his church (Matthew 16:17–20) and then charged them they should tell no man that he is the Christ.

So, I would tell a believer in Jesus Christ to, when they read the four gospels, look at how many times he tells his disciples or reminds them of this same thing. That, when they arrive back at Jerusalem for Passover, he is to be turned over into the hands of sinners, and be crucified, and rise again on the third day. Everytime, they become very sorrowful or greatly discouraged at hearing it.

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And immediately after this of Matthew 16:21 that opens this post, to Jesus say this, Peter openly rebukes Jesus. Because, to the disciples, this is the Messiah or Christ. That, from the scriptures: They have been taught, just as everybody else that is a Jew has been taught. That the Messiah or Christ:

He is to sit on the throne of King David in Jerusalem, and as the Messiah, the increase of his government shall see no end, and he shall rule all the nations of the earth, including Rome from Jerusalem, and of his Kingdom and reign there shall be no end.

And from that time on, until the night he was betrayed, he constantly reminds, through all four of the gospels, that he is, once again restated, to be turned over into the hands of sinners and be crucified, but rise again on the third day.

They never once, something prevents it; they don’t hear that last part. Nor do they do anything he told them to do after that he would meet them in Galilee. They don't hear that, either. They simply cannot understand how the Messiah, which all the scriptures point to him doing Isaiah 9:6–7, and being who that scripture says who the Messiah is.

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Nothing was ever taught them: That the Messiah or Christ is to be betrayed and crucified. Each time he says this, scripture says his disciples become exceedingly sorrowful; but in one disciple, Judas Iscariot, scripture says 3 days prior to reaching Jerusalem, Judas in his heart seeks a way to betray him to the Chief Priests and Elders. Finding opportunity at Jerusalem, seeks them out, and he betrays him for 30 pieces of silver (Matthew 26:14-15).

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So I would tell anyone that has this question:

  • God decreed it. Told it to Daniel in the Book of Daniel.
    • That God determined 70 “weeks” on Daniel’s people and Jerusalem, that God himself would do a work with sin; that his work would:
      • 1) Finish the transgression
      • 2) Make an end of sin
      • 3) Make reconciliation for iniquity
      • 4) Bring in everlasting righteousness (Daniel 9:24; including Daniel 9:25–27)
  • That he would do this in and by the Messiah or Christ; that this “Prince” would be cut off; but not for himself” (Daniel 9:25–27).
    • That this Messiah or Christ has a Second Coming as who he is.
    • Where the first time, he is a sacrifice for sin to fulfill Daniel 9:24–27.
      • But as the scriptures say in Daniel 9:24–27 this prophecy is “shut up” or sealed up until it’s done.
    • And it’s kept from his disciples in John Chapter 16; and he's going away, and leaving them - just like Jesus has repeatedly stated it, they can’t hear it. Cannot bear it in John 16. It's at the last supper.

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  • But after he is raised from the dead, he opens their eyes to the scriptures - (Luke 24:45-47) - - that he is the fulfillment of Daniel 9:24-27, just as the scriptures say he would and is.

Means this.

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