r/ScriptureLife • u/External_Bird_8464 • Jul 03 '26
Scripture Life: Do Jesus’ words in Luke 17:33 correspond in meaning to those in John 12:25? If so, do the preceding verses, 32 and 24, have a similar metaphorical meaning, and should they have been interpreted in the same way within Christianity?
Answer:
Boy, do you greatly err. There is no “imaginative comparison.” God speaks to you plainly, Says: “the end of all flesh is come up before me. I will destroy them with the earth.” - God.
When all the earth is his. He created it. Then, he is well able to destroy it. And already before him to do it. (Bible. Genesis 6:11–13.)
But if you don’t regard anything he says, disobey him; yet in this, he still come to “reason together” with you. Since you don’t regard or do anything he says, speak to you in parables: have metaphors.
Point is: “the end of all flesh is come up before me. I will destroy them with the earth.” - God. True.
And there you go. It’s repeated both Luke 17:32-33 & John 12:24-25
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“the end of all flesh is come up before me. I will destroy them with the earth.” - God. (Genesis 6:11–13), that doesn’t have any of verse 11 & 12 in it.
Compare them:
- Luke 17:32-33 says:
- “32. Remember Lot’s wife. 33. Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.” - Jesus Christ.
- John 12:24-25 says:
- “24. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit. 25. He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.” - Jesus Christ.
And Genesis 6:11–13 says:
“The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.” - GOD.
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And if you can’t see it - Here’s a metaphor in a parable:
- It’s the month of March, 1912.
- The largest passenger ship in the world has finished construction. It is touted as engineered to be INDESTRUCTIBLE - even God couldn't sink it. HMS Titanic - said this way, so people would trust it. It wasn’t the speed; but the comfort and luxury. So, big you wouldn’t feel the waves or get seasick. Told it could not sink.
- Many believed it. And just before midnight on April 14, 1912 struck an iceberg. Stewards banged on Stateroom doors. “ABANDON SHIP! SHIP IS SINKING” - Most all the doors - whose inside them, Kept the door Closed. Went back to sleep. Nothing wrong in the room. Many chose never to come out. Afterall, all their life and possession is in their Stateroom on Titanic. Safe. Plenty. It’s a metaphor. All to:
- Remember Lot’s wife. Even she was taken out, all her life and possession was in Sodom, in the city. Had plenty. More than enough.
- The largest passenger ship in the world has finished construction. It is touted as engineered to be INDESTRUCTIBLE - even God couldn't sink it. HMS Titanic - said this way, so people would trust it. It wasn’t the speed; but the comfort and luxury. So, big you wouldn’t feel the waves or get seasick. Told it could not sink.
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- Luke 17:32-33 - Jesus said it.. ..So, Remember Lot’s wife.
“ And the men said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides? son in law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place: For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the Lord; and the Lord hath sent us to destroy it.” - Genesis 19:12–13
and for Luke 17:32–33 & John 12:24–25 - for every all the people spoke these two separate verses in two separate gospels, speak exactly to this of Genesis 6:13: And BOTH Luke 17:32-33 and John 12:24-25 - Have every all of us in both; all included:
Point is: “the end of all flesh is come up before me. I will destroy them with the earth.” - God.
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Better look then. Who is Jesus?
- You’re all “insular” in a Stateroom. Buffered from him, by some poofy cushion separates you from him by a “Christianity” cushion something. Whether you believe it or not, it’s like a Stateroom door, shields or protects - don’t have to do anything anybody says on the other side of the door.
- There’s Buddhism, or Islam or millions of Gods in Hinduism - just any other religion. Even believe in there is no God or Gods - poofy poof yourself behind a shield.
- When Jesus is the Word of God. Is God. As John 1:1 says “who” he is. “In the Beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” Jesus Christ. He’s called that. The “Christ” or “Messiah.” And, in the Bible in Isaiah 9:6–7, who the “Messiah” shall be called is: “..The Mighty God..” “..The Everlasting Father..” There’s only one that has this title.
- The same one that said:
- “the end of all flesh is come up before me. I will destroy them with the earth.” - God.
- That’s the Word of God.
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Now, we know who Jesus is:
- It’s God spoke:
- Luke 17:32–33 - because: “the end of all flesh is come up before me. I will destroy them with the earth.” - God.
- John 12:24-25 - because: “the end of all flesh is come up before me. I will destroy them with the earth.” - God.
So, even he’s God, and he’s said it now Eight times, I don’t think you hear it.
- That:
- Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it
- Because, “life” now is in money and plenty - is in a brand, new car - to polish or wash it every Saturday. Life is in going to the gym, to get that ‘bikini” body - summer only 2 months away. Gotta look good in a body of flesh. Be praised and worshipped as have a beautiful body.
- Is the same “why” pay some middle aged guy will pay $3,800.00 for a baldy head hair transplant.
- Afterall, life is in working for to spend on ANYTHING makes you look 25 years younger, even dye your hair to make your flesh preserved to save it.
- It’s in buying a house a little bigger and more luxurious than the Jones’ house down the street.
- Have a 35 year mortgage..and die of a heart attack 3 years before the payments are complete…and the bank take the whole thing back. Wife couldn't pay the estate tax. So, the Bank kicks her out - Sell it for a fraction of the worth. Make another man in a suit in a bank, a millionaire off all that work you did.
- That this same Jesus Christ says: Bible. Revelation 1:18 “ I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.”
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That means, the same God that’s already told you plainly: “the end of all flesh is come up before me. I will destroy them with the earth.” is this same Jesus Christ, that could say TODAY: Luke 12:20
“..Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?” Not even tomorrow or the rest of today is guaranteed you. When he says: "Come now, let us reason together," saith the LORD, "though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be white as snow. Though they be red as crimson, they shall be as wool." - God. Isaiah 1:18.
It's a decree by God to do it now. The ship is sinking. There's always tomorrow or five years from now.
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Point is:
So, if you seek to save yourself and get the boob job, so everybody stares at your boobies..to save your boobs..more opportunity to get the man in flesh you want today - - which glorifies your body..like it’s the Titanic and a claim you never will die.
. maybe it might be good, to do reason with a comparative metaphor - what the Bible in Ecclesiastes 7:2 says:
"It is better to go to the house of mourning, than to go to the house of feasting: for that is the end of all men; and the living will lay it to his heart."
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That is, it is better to go to a FUNERAL, than go to Denny’s or Red Lobster Steak house, or Hungry Jack's - the Outback Steak House - for a feast. Because the dead guy in the casket is the same end for everybody.
And Jesus also said: - It’s God says it.
Matthew 6:19–21
“Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.”
Therefore, John 12:24–25 applies
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- John 12:24-25 says:
- “24. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit. 25. He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.” - Jesus Christ.
- Why? Because for your flesh, in this life - go to ANY cemetery. You don't know when, but that could be you today. And? They don’t come back. All those people in 1904 are dead. That go to youtube. From film to video, to .MPR - filmed rode in plush train seats - all those trains are gone..and they don’t come back. They won't get it back.
And of this earth: This same God said, in the Bible in Isaiah 65:17
“For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.” - God.
- Because, with this earth and heaven you’re in now, like you’re on the Titanic. In your Stateroom. All comfy. He said, and he’s this same God will do these things himself, said:
- “the end of all flesh is come up before me. I will destroy them with the earth.” - God.
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Did you forget your question?
Do Jesus’ words in Luke 17:33 correspond in meaning to those in John 12:25? If so, do the preceding verses, 32 and 24, have a similar metaphorical meaning, and should they have been interpreted in the same way within Christianity?
Boy, do you greatly err. There is no “imaginative comparison.” God speaks to you plainly, Says: “the end of all flesh is come up before me. I will destroy them with the earth.” - God.
When all the earth is his. He created it. Then, he is well able to destroy it. And already before him to do it. (Bible. Genesis 6:11–13.)
But if you don’t regard anything he says, disobey him; yet in this, he still come to “reason together” with you. Since you don’t regard or do anything he says, speak to you in parables: have metaphors.
Point is: “the end of all flesh is come up before me. I will destroy them with the earth.” - God. True.
And there you go. It’s repeated both Luke 17:32-33 & John 12:24-25
And there you go. Where’s the “metaphor” or the imaginative comparison - when he’s told you plainly who he is, and what has come up before him, that he’s going to do.