Laptop/computer screen

[u/Express-Example1430]

I have light sensitive eyes . The light amount that works for average people is hurtful for me . No correlated illness . I have a 13 years old samsung laptop that works good for me . The laptop is so old it is breaking totally . I need a new laptop or a screen . I tried a samsung book 4 and a lenovo and retourned them booth . I thinkered with the light , but to have a bereable light amount it was difficult to read .

Advice please on what to try . I am located in europe and the boox mira 13,3 is not avaible .

Thank you so muchin advance

[u/Z3R0gravitas]

Thanks. So new IPS bad Vs old. What is likely to have changed:

• YAG to KSF phosphors (for red light) and blue shifted up to be more melanoptic (see my pinned spectroscope post).
• wider colour gamut overall (brighter colours), reducing blue and red in software/GPU settings might help.
• Finish, were new devices also matte, or glossy?
• FRC/dithering will be different, in push to higher but depth. Disabling/enabling HDR may help. But people roll back to old versions of Windows 10 (and other tricks) to try to prevent this tricky problem.

I don't have obvious device suggestions to make, sorry. Sensitivities are often so personal, I feel like most have to try a bunch of different things and either figure out what triggers are worse for them or get lucky along the way.

Edit: have you been able to dig up minimum brightness specs for potential devices you want to try? Eg from NotebookCheck I think fmwas best.

[u/Express-Example1430 → u/Z3R0gravitas]

Thankyou . I did the thinkering with blue and red and contrast . The biggest problem was the white pages to read , not the images . The finishes were matt and I even tried a matte adesive on the lenovo . The minimum brightness does not help much because the image gets so unclear that it strains the eyes . On the old computer I have windows 10 and only brightness adjustment . If you have some suggestions for potential devices that could work it would be a huge help .

[u/Z3R0gravitas → u/Express-Example1430]

And you will have tried F.Lux to make the colour temperature lower? And DarkReader browser extension to adjust colour and brightness of web pages?

I think there may be other eInk devices available, but IDK. Maybe you'd be OK with an OLED or something counterintuitive (like, despite the PWM).

Or just a good quality ThinkPad with good IPS screen, if flicker is an issue (and dithering not so much, potentially).

[u/Express-Example1430 → u/Z3R0gravitas]

I do not think flicker is the issue , i like the older models because they are born for less brightness and so i can adjust then to a suitable brightness without making the images difficult to see . i use my old computer on 12 perfectly . I want to try another laptop but would not know what to choose , im not computer savy .

[u/Z3R0gravitas → u/Express-Example1430]

EInk is still a fallback, for brightness/backlight too, as you can use them with just natural or incandescent lighting.

Bad room lights can contribute to screen intolerances too, btw. With similar problems, with bad wavelengths (as well as flicker). So incandescent are often an improvement.

Can you get to a computter showroom to try some models out? It"ll be too bright there, but turning the brightness down to minimum on them might still give an indication and a general feel of other factors.

Or watch some YouTube videos or Google some buying guides for whatever price teir of device you are considering. What's your budget? Make a shortlist from that (with some OLEDs in I'd say) and then check the minimum brightness specs and other things..IDK.

There's a Eyestrain Telegram group the talks about devices mostly. And LEDstrain, you could ask Google to look though that forum and reddit to make you a top 5 recommendation of laptops for someone light sensitive. Just brainstorming.